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GPD Win 4 handheld gaming PC will feature Ryzen 7 6800U and a 6 inch display that slides up - Liliputing
GPD Win 4 handheld gaming PC will feature Ryzen 7 6800U and a 6 inch display that slides up
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Looks nice in the promo shots. Less so in the photo.
How do the specs compare to, say, a Steam Deck?
How do the specs compare to, say, a Steam Deck?
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Well... where the fuck else are you gonna attach your anime key fobs?
You don't regret it, either. It has a good homebrew scene going for it.
Going by the pattern of these sorts of devices: like 1.5 to 2x the price, modestly better performance in high wattage scenarios, no real gains at lower or optimal wattages, potentially less optimizations for that power range as well. Probably higher capacity battery to compensate. More storage perhaps. No Steam OS out of the box and all those features (though can be added back with holoiso). Probably worse customer support and RMA processes (going by Ayn, and what I've heard of GPD). Potentially worse ergonomics (though this varies by device and this looks like a significant improvement over something like the Aya Neo Pro 2 or whatever it is). Potentially a higher resolution display, which has it's own set of tradeoffs.
If you can get a steam deck these imo aren't that appealing unless you want to get some (modest) gains in high end emulation tbh, or want a slight boost to framerate, or want a smallerish form factor. Even in the high end emulation space it won't be a slam dunk, and will depend heavily on the game, though some titles that would be unplayable on van gogh might be playable on the 6800u. I'd guess mostly Switch titles.
To early to say for sure. The CPU might be better, but it depends on how its clocked in the final hardware. The GPU will be more interesting, but all we know from the article is the architecture, RDNA2, which is the same as the Deck. If the screen is 1080p, it might actually be weaker overall, if you want to run stuff on native res.
I wonder if GPD will try to get SteamOS on this thing.
It will. 6800. But if the screen is 1080p it won't be seen. And the deck has by far the best tdp system
It's a 6800u so unless they've put crazy tdp limits on it it will probably be more performant at higher TDP than the deck. At lower TDP it will probably be negligible. And even then the performance increase will likely be like, the difference between 45 fps and 60fps in most use cases, not anything crazy or life changing. Depending on the resolution native res gaming might also be worse.
No. Now please engage the claw maneuver and stretch your thumbs directly down several centimeters to use the dpad.
It is but it's much better to type on a tactile keyboard than the windows on screen keyboard or the kind of touch keyboards they had on the last GPD Win.
I agree. I hated symmetrical sticks on the Wii U Pro Controller but god I love it on the Steam Deck. Really hard to go back to my Backbone or Switch
If it has a 1080p screen this is automatically dumb. The best part about the Steam Deck is the fact that it has a 720p screen, which means you can actually run games at native resolution without awful upscaling artifacts.
What is it going to take to get them to wake up and copy the Steam Deck?
Steam deck symmetrical sticks work so well because the layout is fantastic with the buttons on the outside rather then above/below though, which is nor possible when they keep copying switch and psp formats.
Really hoping we see big changes next year with the newer revisions for these devices, Aya and GPD are years behind Valve on ergonomics right now.
I'm really hoping the unprecedented sales for the format will wake them the fuck up soon lol.
I woud LOVE to check out a more powerful Aya or GPD model in the next year or two, but until they can match the decks comfort and control options (dual track pads are a must going forward) it's a deal breaker.
not having the sticks both up top like the win 3 sucks, that works best in these cramped configurations. looks good overall though. might be in if its smaller and if i can sell my win 3. hoping for a gyro too.
The Aya Neo Next II might be what you're looking for. I am pretty excited for it.
It has double the cpu cores and 1.5x the gpu cores on a smaller process node, so the specs are clearly better.
Can you link to the official specs? Really interested in this.
I think when it comes to a battery powered device with a strong focus on efficiency, it's a bit more complicated than just having more cores and getting better performance. After all, battery live is a major thing to consider. It would be very interesting if it does manage to get both better perf and similar or better battery live than the Deck.
No he is right based on benchmarks. The 6800u equals the Deck's Van Gogh at lower wattage. It gets better as you go up in wattage with 18watts being ideal.
It's a start, but those trackpads are just...in an unusable spot lol, it's already like a squished xbox layout in the mock ups, then the pads are slapped even farther down lol.
My going theory is the Steam Deck APU is so good because of less cores and lower clock speeds compared to the 6800u.
SteamOS or bust with it, because ain't no way I'd run Windows on a portable (or, well, at all, really).
I wonder what the max TPD that the GPD Win 4 will reach is. The Steam Deck bounds it at 15 Watts. This APU seems to support up to 28W, which should give you more raw power, but will butcher the battery. That's actually the other interesting spec that we don't now yet (?), how big the battery will be. I could see it being smaller than the 40Wh that the Deck has, as it's a smaller device than the Deck.
That's actually another thing I love about the Deck, the fine-grained control over TPD and clocks it gives you via SteamOS. If GPD is smart, they'll work with Valve to make it easy to run SteamOS on this thing too.
It's really about the whole package though, the 6800U is definitely better at higher TDP, although lower TDP the deck is a monster.
The real wildcard with these is that most of these aya and gpd handhelds run 1080p screens, which is going to tank performance unless you run subnative which will kill image quality.
If these run a 800p or 720p screen and the thermals and power draw are good it should be a nice boost in performance.
