Isn't that what this article/thread is about? Quality vs quantity.
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HBO’s new owner, AT&T, has some ominous-sounding plans for the network
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Isn't that what this article/thread is about? Quality vs quantity.
Mindhunter sucked outside of the direction really. I mean, even ignoring that, the average quality for Netflix shows is so low. I can't imagine wanting HBO to put out absolute garbage CBS fodder like the Marvel shows, House of Cards, OITNB, etc. They have issues on their own, but typically they just produce flat out better shows. Hell, The Knick is probably better than anything Netflix has ever done either.
lulz
Yes, that is very true as well. Docs and Stand Up comedy used to be huge for HBO. Amazing how quickly that shifted to Netflix.
The Leftovers S2 or S3 would never have happened under this new management structure by the sounds of it and that would have been a fucking travesty.
It might have still happened. Just under a smaller budget.
I know, I am pointing one of the reason they want more content, to retain subscribers more easily.
No, I don't think your view is correct at all. AT&T would want more episodes of The Leftovers. They've complaining that HBO is lazy and isn't ordering enough shows or seasons. That's why Deadwood and The Sopranos are coming back - AT&T are like "WTF ARE YOU DOING?!?!" to HBO and forcing their hand.
I do want to say AT&T's own series (the stuff they were producing before they bought WarnerMedia) aren't exactly shit quality. Kingdom, Ice, Mr Mercedes, You Me Her, Friday Night Lights, Damages, etc. This idea they're going to ruin HBO has no basis, because their track record is pretty solid. They're just calling out HBO for being lazy.
You will pay basic cable fees, Movie Network premium price, and CraveTV streaming services, and you will like it!
Execs need to buy another yacht and private jet. Think about them and their needs, gosh.
This is BY FAR my biggest complaint with HBO. That model needs to die faster.
Why on earth would they kill a profitable TV channel? If anything, they will be planning to buyout CBS's share.
I hope you're both right as I view that HBO intro the same way I used to the Nintendo seal of approval, guaranteed quality.
I fear that if a show isn't pulling in the numbers they'll just cut it, really hope I'm wrong on that one.
He's not wrong.
This isn't 2007. HBO's content is just not there compared to Netflix, especially with GoT coming to an end. If there wasn't still millions of Americans paying for a cable bundle they don't need, HBO would be in trouble. There's a reason Netflix has like 120M subscribers and HBO Now has like 2M.
This isn't 2007. HBO's content is just not there compared to Netflix, especially with GoT coming to an end. If there wasn't still millions of Americans paying for a cable bundle they don't need, HBO would be in trouble. There's a reason Netflix has like 120M subscribers and HBO Now has like 2M.
It doesn't help that they charge 15 dollars a month for that laughable lack of content (comparatively).
HBO has been in the shitter for years now so meh when basic tv channels like FX and USA have significantly more interesting and unique shows you know there is a problem.
Westworld is still better or at least more ambitious than anything on Netflix. Silicon Valley and Veep are also quality. Although both are on their last legs.
Exactly my point.
Long-term, the only way to compete with Netflix is to bundle all the Turner content (TNT/TBS) and all the WB content (movies) with HBO's existing set of properties and sell it for $15/month. And even then they'll need more to stay competitive.
This is the problem with being stuck in an old business model. Doing that will upset the cable operators and kill their cash cow. But eventually, people will leave the cable bundle en mass, and when that happens HBO is in big trouble.
HBO is already fucked if they stay with the current model. It's not like it could get much worse. Anyone that closely tied to cable TV packages should be concerned.
HBO needs a bit more content, but not Netflix levels. If not for Veep and Game of Thrones airing at a different time then usual, they'd still have their problem of every good show being in the Spring, with almost no reason to subscribe afterwards. They need a more constant stream of content.
Oh, and they need to be not a pain in the ass to use. Making it so you can watch their content through Hulu instead of their shitty app is a great start.
Oh, and they need to be not a pain in the ass to use. Making it so you can watch their content through Hulu instead of their shitty app is a great start.
That all sounds great until Hulu becomes a primary Disney app, creating a major issue down the road. HBO need to fix their app or align with Amazon.
Netflix cannot survive on their current pricing. It's absolutely unreasonable to expect them to remain at their current structure for another 5, 10 years.
HBO's only lacking investment was allowing the service to work outside of a cable subscription, and they did that.
Nah, he wants them to be making more content so have more "engagement" with the service. So quantity quantity quantity
I already love my hbo go sub that I get from my folks. theres more movies that I care to watch on there at a given time then Netflix.
maybe just keep adding to that.
cuz ill be honest id love for there to be a Netflix for movies. they're the current closest to that.
maybe just keep adding to that.
cuz ill be honest id love for there to be a Netflix for movies. they're the current closest to that.
Read from Alan Sepinwall article
Eventually The CW will not be sustainable is better for Warner their future is in hand of HBO instead of Netflix.
Except Netflix has more movies than HBO and at least currently with the Disney contract, that have the most popular movies.
I get that, but the folks in this thread are bemoaning the potential drop in quality which was my point.
eh ive seen the marvel stuff and their movie selection has been declining in quality the last few years. if my parents didn't use it, I would have unsubscribed by now.
The "more is better" shit is the main reason I dropped Netflix. I was there for the quality of the products and then they flooded it with non-stop shit.
Because the guy makes subtle hints at it being like Netflix which is all about providing as possible content. This means things like The OA and Adam Sandler movies, to Stranger Things and GLOW. He wants them producing tons of content in order to have that constant draw into the service through sheer volume versus quality.
As I said in the last page, the only way I could see him not mean this is if they look to more licesening deals for foreign content which has worked out well for Amazon and Netflix
If the means that Last Week Tonight doesn't go on vacation every other week, then I'm all for it.
Perhaps. As you suggested, they'd then move them to something new. It seems like AT&T adores the Greg Berlanti series, they featured them heavily in lots of the WarnerMedia publicity and presentations over stuff like Westworld and DC movies. So if they closed down The CW, those shows would just move elsewhere. Maybe Audience, and that becomes a much bigger deal?
Again, they are trading quality for quantity. Needless to say they will have to up their current spending/investing on original content 2 or 3 fold to catch up to Netflix.
They are making a Watchman series. Something they presumably checked with ATT on.
I think "content" is the worst thing to happen to film and TV media in years.
It's not about the quality, skill, etc - just MORRRRREEEEEE
It's not about the quality, skill, etc - just MORRRRREEEEEE
I only sub to HBO Now when new GoT episodes are running. So, they aren't seeing any of my money until.. 2019? And that's probably it. Not interested in any of the spin-offs.
They do need more variety in their shows, and not just adult-focused shows either. Sesame Street was a good idea, but they need A LOT MORE than just that Fraggle Rock reruns.
They do need more variety in their shows, and not just adult-focused shows either. Sesame Street was a good idea, but they need A LOT MORE than just that Fraggle Rock reruns.