"End-scripted content" this doesnt sound like what the quote is saying.
I'd wait for more info before overeacting.
I'd wait for more info before overeacting.
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HBO Max to lay off 70% of staff and end scripted content (UP: Actually, no to both)
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By "end scripted content for HBO MAx," this sounds worded to mean they won't launch HBO Max exclusive scripted content, but instead will rely on HBO's scripted content for HBO Max.
"Sounds like they're not doing HBO Max scripted shows anymore with HBO taking over"
For a lot of customers I don't think they even know that HBO Max has exclusive scripted content.
I think this is the list of exclusive scripted content available only on HBO Max:
"Sounds like they're not doing HBO Max scripted shows anymore with HBO taking over"
For a lot of customers I don't think they even know that HBO Max has exclusive scripted content.
I think this is the list of exclusive scripted content available only on HBO Max:
All indications are that Zaslav believes very strongly in major tentpole theatrical blockbusters, and that would include DC movies.
Man, fingers crossed for the staff and any non-Peacemaker/Cable TV show right now
Hell, I feel like even they may be on some borrowed time because I would not be surprised if this new CEO started taking a closer look at divisions like HBO cable or gaming and be like "we're spending *how* much??" and it all goes downhill from there
Hell, I feel like even they may be on some borrowed time because I would not be surprised if this new CEO started taking a closer look at divisions like HBO cable or gaming and be like "we're spending *how* much??" and it all goes downhill from there
Quinn could move to Adult Swim if it gets renewed. It already airs on AS as an original in some countries like Canada.
makes sense. hbo max never really succeeded despite being a good service. the day and date movie thing fucked them over and most of their originals outside a few like our flag means death or peacemaker were never popular. there is a reason why they reported hbo subscribers alongside hbo max subscribers in that 70 million figure. you figure if the streaming service was making strong headway in the streaming space they would flaunt their success but nope. there was always an asterisk attached.
zaslav is an algorithm man and i'm sure he ran the numbers. for wall street i'm sure he is steering the company in all the right ways.
HBO itself will be fine- that will continue as usual, though again expect more quick cancelations if they don't like what they see early based on his past with running Discovery content. Barry wasn't a Max show, nor Succession. Those are still firmly under the banner of "prestige tv" according to how they seem to be approaching the whole thing.
Funny part is that HBO aired Arli$$ for like 7 seasons, one of the most aggressively unfunny and uninteresting shows of all time but enough of a core audience kept their subscription for it.
we dont read - the sky is falling and you better get on that train
I mean sure anything could happen but that's also just random speculation that doesn't really jive with what we've been hearing the last few days. If Zaslav had some kind of hate boner for HBO proper that would have come out. It sounds like the HBO Max division is being specifically targeted, and that's a very different thing than HBO or other divisions within Warner.
I didnt explain myself well I guess. I'm not saying you won't stream shows. I'm saying HBO Max didnt have to consider tv time slots, just premiere days. All the content produced for the HBO channel still had to be scheduled to run on TV. Regardless of when it was up on the app. That limits how much content can be produced because it still has to play on a regular TV. There are only so many hours in a day, and different times of day are for different programing. That forces a limit that isn't there for streaming services.
I hope Hollywood revolts. I hope talent just flees from WB. Robert Pattinson and Matt Reeves should walk away, Cavill should, Gunn should. Refuse to work until Zaslav is gone.
I'm glad I don't this, my let's me use his login.
Looks like this platform is going to die a very painful death.
Looks like this platform is going to die a very painful death.
Netflix is the only "big streaming" site that only deals with creative content driving subscriptions as its main source of revenue.
Apple TV, Disney+, and Amazon Prime video are all subsidized by their parent companies.
Netflix has more subscribers than the next three streaming sites combined, but have 1 shrinking quarter and it's the end of the world. The model is probably just not sustainable as is
I get why people are reacting to all of this the way they are, but until we get more information tomorrow, people are definitely overblowing the situation.
first big streaming bubble pop?
Sad too because in our country we just got HBO Max… It is interesting though to see where this leads
Sad too because in our country we just got HBO Max… It is interesting though to see where this leads
Right now, it appears that people are panicking and speculating.
What's actually happening? That's yet to be seen.
I hate that folks are losing their jobs but I see why leadership is doing it. Streaming is expensive. It's not like Warner has other revenue streams (like Disney has theme parks, etc).
Fuck, that's my question too. I can't see us continuing to get it for free.
It's listed under their Max banner, but then again now that I look at the individual pictures of the shows, Winning Time says HBO Original instead of Max Original.
Rap Shit is a Max Original. Oh no.
No, I wouldn't say so- the confusion I think was what this meant for HBO. Seemingly nothing- Max was a separate conjoined branch of HBO content + Max content. They're cutting Max and folding whatever they choose to keep into Discovery+ while HBO will remain it's own thing.
It's a baffling and somewhat stupid move imo but not a bubble pop as long as HBO content continues, which it will.
Bottom line they are still cutting 70% of the HBO max content/development so while HBO will still create scripted content the overall content is still going to be down significantly. Also just wait until HBO starts getting the hammer. Considering what's happening HBO is going to start leaning back as well and canceling things a lot faster
this makes the whole thing make more sense when you stop and think about it
hbo content exists and will continue to exist
hbo MAX content existed to provide enough content to justify an hbo MAX subscription (and had like its own duplicate teams for everything). that's it. after the merger with discovery, they now have a huge mass of discovery+ content that they can use on a streaming service that serves that purpose - the MAX stuff that's good enough to be "hbo content" will survive, the rest will die.
like, it's been clear for months that this is what would happen. the post that quote is from is from may. there's nothing to suggest that they're going to make 90 Day Westeros Fiance instead of House of the Dragon, there's nothing to suggest that they'll just start axing random HBO shows because "muh money" - there's a clearly distinguishable point to what's being done here. they want high-quality HBO content, they want high-volume discovery+ content. they don't want low-quality HBO content or expensive discovery+ content. if that exists, it will not exist for long. that's the goal.
It doesn't seem to me that Netflix's pivot has lead to growth, or even maintenance of their base. In fact, they seem to be threatening to be overtaken by both Amazon and Disney+Hulu.
That said, Netflix seems to be expanding the non-scripted strat, so maybe the reduced cost offsets whatever revenue losses they see.
Yep. Every company can't support a streaming service forever and I expect in the future more companies will take the Sony approach, which I'm surprised hasn't happened sooner.
Streaming definitely isn't sustainable longterm, but people are not going back to broadcast TV either, so I don't know what that looks like in 10 years or so.
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