Accurate. The first couple episodes of season 1 reminded me so much of my early days of auditions and acting classes. I actually stopped watching it because it was getting too real.
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HBO Max to lay off 70% of staff and end scripted content (UP: Actually, no to both)
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Accurate. The first couple episodes of season 1 reminded me so much of my early days of auditions and acting classes. I actually stopped watching it because it was getting too real.
So much accounting fuckery going on at this company. They're cancelling finished projects and culling streaming content for tax write-offs. Hollywood money has always been funky but this seems really exceptional to me. Are they in big trouble with their debt or something?
Just report their ghoulish posts and move on. And fingers crossed for you and everyone else personally affected.
Can I ask what model you want? I don't love the current situation, but people can also just consider not subbing to all services, or subbing ad hoc. It's still a major advance over what we had.
Also it's right in the OP that this means huge layoffs, not sure it's worthy of a celebratory tone.
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So your position here is anti... entertainment? 🤔
HBO is still gonna be streaming.
There's a arc where Sally is a showrunner and her show is canceled literally hours after it premiered on a streaming service because of the algorithm.
No, but I imagine sony isn't too trilled about the new management.
There's a scene in season 2 I think when Sally auditions for what is basically a sexploitation action series, and I read and gave notes on a "female oriented" spy script that could have been that word for word.
Work grueling 12-16 hour days on a production for a week then come back here and post uninformed bullshit like this.
Yeah, Max, it's streaming only for the service. It doesn't appear on HBO.
Discovery inherited quite a big debt when they bought WB. Their debt is around 50 billion dollars (as of June of this year).
These people bring some joy and entertainment to thousands of others.
The same cannot be said of yourself at even a small fraction of that.
This shit is infuriating. Peak end-game capitalism to just dispose of completed art in the name of a tax write-off.
"And Just Like That" is a Max Original.
Hacks, Station Eleven, Somebody Somewhere, etc....plenty of goof stuff I've enjoyed. I assume they'll get rid of the Ghibli/anime stuff and other things like TCM et al. I cannot for the life of me understand how they can chop so much and not see how this is going to destroy people wanting to work with them and just give Netflix/Hulu/whoever more clout.
I really liked HBO a lot but Zaslav is destroying my interest in the service.
I really liked HBO a lot but Zaslav is destroying my interest in the service.
I subscribe to HBO. I'm watching Succession now and it's fantastic. Still, there is a finite amount of content that can reasonably be consumed. We have too many people making shows for these streaming platforms that are either subsidized by the profits of Apple, Google, or shareholders in the case of WBD. If they actually had to charge a high enough price to fund the content there would be no market for most streaming platforms.
Traditional HBO at $15 to $20 a month, with a small number of excellent shows, is a much better use of capital than this streaming hellscape.
Traditional HBO at $15 to $20 a month, with a small number of excellent shows, is a much better use of capital than this streaming hellscape.
That's it! You figured it out! Next time a pandemic hits there will be hundreds of camera operators, directors and actors that can go help at the hospitals.
yeah and all of the global warming they are causing as a result of making these tv shows!!!!
I don't trust these fuckers not to eventually touch HBO proper (which as much as I have loved Max originals and it's sad to see DC get killed I was always there and a sub before Max) and if they do it will be the end of a golden era. If I was Netflix or Disney I'd be putting up big money to woo people like Danny McBride and Bill Hader, not to mention Simon.
It's almost certainly going to be discovery+ getting folded into the more popular, more expensive service. They'll call it "HBO+" with a logo incorporating the rainbow gradient from discovery+, and pitch it as an upgrade where if you have HBO Max you'll now get Discovery shows "for free." discovery+ subscribers will have to pay more, of course. The new service isn't going to be $4.99/mo.
A lot of the content that's going to die as a result of this kind of cost crunch is content made by minority voices and for minority communities. Those shows won't be able to exist anymore as a result.
Compressing HBO down to a small number of prestige shows but charging $20 a month for it, won't satisfy anyone.
I'm going to need you to tell me what you do for a career. I mean, we're here making moral judgments on people's line of work right now after all.
Seriously. Posting the "do something productive for society" line on a video game forum. My word...
So are they cancelling Warrior for a second time after streaming numbers saved the show the first time?
Yeah, because the whole entertainment industry revolves around and makes their content for you.
They will keep TCM and other catalog content, along with Ghibli until the end of its license.
They're actually going to cancel the release of the fully filmed fourth Doom Patrol season, aren't they?
i like how you didn't even have the cojones to quote even one of the posts
Admittedly, they edited out Billions and replaced with succession so it's very possible they don't subscribe and watch at all.
Imagine if WB fucks over Brendan Fraser twice in the same fucking week.
Weird post to make on a gaming forum. What do you consider to be 'productive for society'?
Would love to see how anyone makes it through the pandemic lockdown without art and entertainment to take in.
What a fucking disgusting series of posts from you.
I really want to write to my reps and tell them they need to be investigating this shit. It's "The Producers" level fuckery.
That's what HBO Go and HBO Now were. HBO Max is the successor to those, and on top of HBO content, it includes stuff from across Warner Bros., DC, Cartoon Network, etc.
I mean, it's more advantageous to not spend money than get a write off, you don't make things with the intention of writing it off, you're still going to be at a net loss. Besides the intention here has to do with merger accounting, they don't exactly have the same ability to do this forever. You're not turning a profit writing things off, you're minimizing losses.
To be honest I never cared for the HBO Max originals vs HBO originals labeling. So I have no problem with them combing them into one. To be honest I couldn't tell if you shows like Winning Time , Hacks, or Peacemaker are Max or not. While we don't know the future I haven't seen anything cut so far that I cared about. My only real concern would be The Other Two, but it is my understanding season 3 is done and will air next month. So I am not knee jerking and cancelling at this time. I have subscribed to HBO since 99 due to it's original program and there is still enough good stuff that I feel like I am getting more than my money's worth. Could change of course, because I am only loyal as your current lineup.
Also please cancel Westworld if it saves other shows. It is not good.
Edit: Also what a confusing click bait headline. Awful.
Also please cancel Westworld if it saves other shows. It is not good.
Edit: Also what a confusing click bait headline. Awful.
And now we have to turn to Apple TV+ for high quality adult shows, how the tables have turned.
It's more certainly going to be folded into discovery (the service preferred by the ceo and the one all rumors have indicated will remain) and there is confirmation it will have neither HBO nor Discovery in the name
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