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He fucking played us

Blue Skies

Blue Skies

Banned
Mar 27, 2019
9,224
What was the news cycle on about 10 days ago?

Children in cages.
The horrible conditions in these border camps.


Trump says racist thing.

Now the whole cycle is about if trump is a racist.
The conversation has moved on.

How do we fight this
 
NinjaScooter

NinjaScooter

Member
Oct 25, 2017
54,555
People thinking he's a racist isn't exactly a good thing. He's not some genius. He's an incompetent buffoon.
 
wenis

wenis

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,143
Blue Skies said:
What was the news cycle on about 10 days ago?

Children in cages.
The horrible conditions in these border camps.


Trump says racist thing.

Now the whole cycle is about if trump is a racist.
The conversation has moved on.

How do we fight this
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don't ignore it.
raise attention to it.
speak louder than anyone else in the room.
 
nsilvias

nsilvias

Member
Oct 25, 2017
24,016
if democrats actually tried to use the internet like aoc and co do they could do something about it but they are dinosaurs unfortunetaly
 

Pata Hikari

Banned
Jan 15, 2018
2,030
Hmm yes the racist putting children in death camps sure did play us by *checks notes* reminding us how he's a racist who put children in death camps.
 
L Thammy

L Thammy

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Oct 25, 2017
50,134
NinjaScooter said:
People thinking he's a racist isn't exactly a good thing. He's not some genius. He's an incompetent buffoon.
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He's a moron, but I think people focusing on him being a buffoon is a little dangerous. He's not a clown.

Fascist leaders naturally lead to inefficiency because doing a good job was never their goal to start with; their goal is to try to keep themselves in power. Trump's got some of that, but moreover, his main goal is to achieve his racist agenda. When it comes to things like repealing everything Obama ever put into place regardless of what it is or threatening immigrants, he's not as incompetent.
 
NinjaScooter

NinjaScooter

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Oct 25, 2017
54,555
Blue Skies said:
But we already all know he's a racist.
The ones that say he's not, are also racist.

No ones mind is getting changed with this whole Trump V Squad stuff.
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The criticism of his immigration policies were rooted in his racism. Him being openly racist and telling people to "go back" where they came from isn't going to make people forget about his racist immigration policies.
 
danm999

danm999

Member
Oct 29, 2017
17,247
Sydney
If you're in the US you should organise.

There are very likely demonstrations and organisations looking to support people targeted by ICE and the Trump administration that are near where you live.

This might mean protesting or donating or providing your free time to volunteer or organise or even something as simple as registering people to vote and get involved in the political process. I dunno it depends on your personal time and resources.
 

uncredited male mk2

Member
Oct 29, 2017
3,458
Trump talks about whatever Fox News is currently pushing. There is no higher level thought than that.

Any 'masterminds' left in that admin are busy pilfering whatever they can.
 
Dyle

Dyle

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
30,099
Sadly it''s not like the majority of the country cares about everyone in the concentration camps anyway under the best of circumstances. Him making it about himself probably helps the cause within the public consciousness as much or more than media coverage of the camps
 
Antrax

Antrax

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Oct 25, 2017
13,329
Blue Skies said:
But we already all know he's a racist.
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You say this, but his approval always slowly climbs whenever he stays quiet for long enough. The lean voters who led to a ton of flipped districts in 2018 are the kinds of people who don't generally think anybody is racist, and so they only get flighty when he says shit like this.
 
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Blue Skies

Blue Skies

Banned
Mar 27, 2019
9,224
NinjaScooter said:
The criticism of his immigration policies were rooted in his racism. Him being openly racist and telling people to "go back" where they came from isn't going to make people forget about his racist immigration policies.
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But it did slow the momentum on that cycle.

like it had been a back burner issue for months now, and then it got back in the limelight, thanks Congresswomen visits, but the conversation moved away from the actual issue, to the known fact and pointless "is he a racist" conversation.
 
SatelliteOfLove

SatelliteOfLove

Member
Oct 26, 2017
7,988
South Carolina
Or the debt this year being boosted by $1T by the WHITE HOUSE'S estimation.

Or that he's being damned harder for the illegal campaign finance felony.

Or that he's lost more court cases.

Or footage of him creeping it up with notorious pedophile, blackmailer, and shadily-funded criminal Epstein.

Thing is though, is that before he did this, the Dems were at each others' throats and then he united them via naked racism, which also sent a schism thru the GOP with a damning choice to defend the corpulent crook and risk electoral death, or to scream it's electoral death and risk being banished and shamed by the tribe. So thinking of it that way, THIS is the only card he has left, or possibly that his handlers and henchmen have left, or that they can't control him, nor does he feel in control and will do anything it takes to get any back.

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We have to vote out all of the Republicans.
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Bout time someone else figured this out.
 
Doctoglethorpe

Doctoglethorpe

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Oct 27, 2017
3,214
It's not him that's playing us, he doesn't give a shit, it's the news giants that have to maintain a revolving door of controversy and bullshit to keep people paying attention to their advertisements, and the giants get to basically dictate the national dialogue that all the smaller sources of journalism then have to waste time and energy addressing less they seem out of touch or irreverent, and what's left of generally ignored because you can't blame people for not just staying constantly mired in all the fucked up shit going on, so the big story of the day is frequently ones limit.
 
KtotheRoc

KtotheRoc

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
56,759
Vote out every Republican everywhere. That's how you fight this. That's how you beat this.
 
808s & Villainy

808s & Villainy

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Oct 27, 2017
42,874
NinjaScooter said:
People thinking he's a racist isn't exactly a good thing. He's not some genius. He's an incompetent buffoon.
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Exactly! I seriously can't understand why people convinced themselves everything Trump does is some calculated move. No offense, but some of you who constantly think this are as laughably gullible as his supporters. He just says dumb shit. He didn't trick anyone unless, for some reason, you're incapable of juggling multiple thoughts at the same time
 
KarmaCow

KarmaCow

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,180
The news cycle 5 days ago was that the dems were splintering. If anything Trump jumping in made it worse for him.
 
Grimminski

Grimminski

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,169
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Blue Skies said:
Isn't the media a reflection of what interests us tho?

Ratings metrics etc.
I'm sure every news organization knows if a story is worthy to keep in the cycle.
Especially with online metrics.
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They don't give a shit what people are interested in, just what props up their numbers. CNN just had a bunch of Trumpettes or whatever explaining how he isn't a racist.

He's a racist, and his bullshit is way too fucking good for their ratings.
 

Deleted member 2533

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Oct 25, 2017
8,325
Well the camps had been around for months, but the needle for impeachment actually moved on the racist tweets. The Dems are starting to wake up, hopefully. Kids in cages didn't stir them half as much as this did.
 

VectorPrime

Banned
Apr 4, 2018
11,781
2 1/2 years in and there are still people who look at any of the stupid shit Trump does and assume it's a part of some sort of plan of his. SMH.

He's as dumb as he seems. Dumber even. He doesn't think further than whatever topic Fox and Friends are covering that morning which he then rants about on Twitter. That's it.
 

Deleted member 4372

User requested account closure
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Oct 25, 2017
5,228
Voting will do it. You have to vote. Join a vote recruitment group locally. If one doesn't exist, start one.
 
XMonkey

XMonkey

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Oct 26, 2017
6,827
I think it's important that we've got the media coming around to actually calling him and his words racist instead of some other minimizing phrase. They've been beating around the bush by avoiding that word for a long time.
 
Kurdel

Kurdel

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Nov 7, 2017
12,157
You can't fight it, corporate profit based media will keep being the ally of authoritarianism until climate change does us in.

This is only the beta test before the real deal.
 
Shark

Shark

Member
Oct 28, 2017
8,126
Raleigh, NC
Actually vote, volunteer in your community on behalf of the Democratic nominee (twitter 'clapbacks' don't count) and don't tear apart any of the likely last 5 Dem candidates when your person of choice doesn't win.
 
msdstc

msdstc

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Nov 6, 2017
6,884
He didn't play anyone. This is probably the most damage I've seen trump take for his racism, which is pretty insane because he's been saying shit like this since day 1.
 
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