Heavily armed man stopped by armed firefighter at Walmart in Springfield, MO
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Yeah never seen it in person; but any time there is a new gun control bill they show up in Olympia with their guns... because, that sort of behavior is totally not meant to intimidate, and totally doesn't make them seem like they need more control lol.
LOL, yep. They're hurting themselves.
I agree that calling the police on all of them is the way to go now.
They charged him with Making a terrorist threat, first degree, a class D felony.
Here's the relevant law and why the timing and location is important.
Note "(3) Causes a false belief or fear that an incident has occurred or that a condition exists involving danger to life." Being an open carry state doesn't trump the fact that there was a major shooting at a Walmart less than a week ago, he walked into a Walmart loaded with ammo and a gun and a armored vest, and we have no information about what he was saying while in the store.
Being an open carry state makes that incompatible. The open carry statue directly addresses threats too and I'm not sure how it can't be relevant. If he didn't satisfy that threat, then I'm not sure how he can satisfy this one (unless he was making threats or pointing the gun at people). There are thousands of Walmarts and ultimately the Walmart the mass shooting happened in was nowhere near Missouri. Additionally, shootings happen every single day, pretty much everywhere including places of business.
Missouri law writes pretty clearly that merely open carrying does not constitute a threat or a "condition involving danger to life"- the person also has to be acting in an angry or threatening manner to violate that. Otherwise anyone could freak out over someone open carrying anytime, rendering the law useless. Which likely was not the intent when the GOP fought tooth an nail to pass such a broad and idiotic open carry law.
Either way, the video will likely make things clear pretty quickly. I am willing to bet the prosecution is begging the defense for a plea so they won't have to risk losing at trial. Or worse for them, a judge just throws it out.
It really doesn't matter what happens, it'll be spin to be a positive no matter what. In this case it was a good guy with a gun who stopped a dude walking around with a gun that the same people would argue he's in his right to walk around with if he wants to.
They haven't. They booked him on suspicion of it, but no formal charges have been filed. He'll likely be released in less than 72 hours because Missouri has dumbass open-carry laws and he was within his right.
Officers booked Dmitriy N. Andreychenko, 20, on suspicion of first-degree making a terroristic threat. Greene County Prosecutor Dan Patterson has yet to file formal charges in the case.
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And to address that spin, 1 out of every 292 mass shooting stopped is a seriously terrible return.
Honestly, Im just shocked that "Stand Your Ground" laws and open carry haven't lead to more accidental shootings. You could easily construe someone walking around your neighborhood with a gun as a threat.
Not even people with a holstered pistol? I see that now and again, but it's still quite rare. I don't even want to know how many people do concealed carry though.
Not in Seattle, no. I can't even think of an instance in the suburbs and more rural parts of Western Washington.
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NEW: Suspect who walked into a Missouri Walmart with a rifle and wearing body armor to be charged with making a terrorist threat in the second degree, the Greene County Prosecuting Attorney announced. He is being held in Greene County Jail on $10,000 bond. https://abcn.ws/2yQlIOM
5:14 PM - Aug 9, 2019
NEW: Suspect who walked into a Missouri Walmart with a rifle and wearing body armor to be charged with making a terrorist threat in the second degree, the Greene County Prosecuting Attorney announced. He is being held in Greene County Jail on $10,000 bond. https://abcn.ws/2yQlIOM
5:14 PM - Aug 9, 2019
This seems like something 2nd amendment attorneys and gun nuts will rally behind.
"Lately." Lol. Have you ever been there on a Saturday night?
Well look at that: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49303879
Unless he was pointing his gun at people or making threats, I don't see how he was violating the law. His behavior should be illegal but that would require changing the stupid open carry laws.