Helldivers 2 on PC will soon require players to link a PSN account to their Steam account (June 4th for existing players)
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There's literally 0 difference between this and review bombing DD2 (as an MTX example) they're both dumb.
Continuing with the CEO and his awful PR performance so far: I swear I saw the CEO in one of the twitter posts someone posted here respond to and apologize to someone from the Philippines who was saying that there was no PSN support in their country. Lo and behold, it turns out that PSN does support the Philippines according to this map.I could see them do that, given that you actually break their TOS (even though they never really enforced it, but still), and it probably not having a big impact on them financially, since the PSN is available on large parts of the globe. And where it isn't, some probably still have an account anyway and wouldn't request a refund.
Here is a map where the PSN is available:
So yeah, full refunds for the people in the areas where the PSN isn't available, most prominently Africa, the Middle East, and Central Asia, should be an option at least.
I think is weirder to cry about something that was pretty clear in the store page of Steam, PSN account linking was always required in order to play helldivers, they only disabled this requirement temporarily. And I'm a PC player that is playing the game in Steam.
A lot of companies are doing this kind of requirement in Steam, EA, Ubisoft, Microsoft (even if you play their games in ps5), Rockstar, etc. It's nothing new in Steam PC gaming.
What are we up to at this point? 0 of 6?
Just give the award to Kyle Bosman this year lmao. Maybe the streak will finally be broken.
If you accept that then you do you don't have much or a principle to stand on to argue against other business practices leading to review bombs.
Calling people babies and following up with claiming you are rational about it, good one.
There are lots of business decisions that are rational, doesn´t mean people have to like them
This seems more like a really aggresive solution to prevent Chinese players circumventing the Chinese PSN, because you know, China.
Can't really disagree with folks being annoyed with it.
They should have launched with it in there at least so people buying would know what to expect.
Not really sure if is true that PSN accounts won't function or be obtainable in some regions, but if so, even more reason what it's a terrible idea.
Since this isn't going into effect immediately, perhaps they'll have some other solution if there is enough commotion
They should have launched with it in there at least so people buying would know what to expect.
Not really sure if is true that PSN accounts won't function or be obtainable in some regions, but if so, even more reason what it's a terrible idea.
Since this isn't going into effect immediately, perhaps they'll have some other solution if there is enough commotion
this might be the most embarrassing thing i've seen all year.
Lmao, following on from this. I've just realised that she (Ironmouse) is yet another streamer who is saying they will no longer play Helldivers and yet just 3 days ago they were playing Stellar Blade with a PSN account... just lol.
Nah, actually my bad. Made this map based on this link, given that this is the source for the number on Wikipedia, but when you actually create an account, the selection is missing some countries on that list. Philippines is one of them.
Here is the correct map:
EDIT: Added Puerto Rico
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A bit of an aside, but Sony really should be more flexible about the whole 'different country to your current country' thing, even if it's not something they currently enforce. People got to fucking move for jobs sometimes, like are we also then breaking the rules accessing our games from these accounts lol
It might sound like a ridiculous thing to complain about, but Amazon legit took all my digital content from me before cause I moved and changed my card and address. I wonder sometimes if Sony would also do that
It might sound like a ridiculous thing to complain about, but Amazon legit took all my digital content from me before cause I moved and changed my card and address. I wonder sometimes if Sony would also do that
You can still log on and keep whatever you bought on it, but IIRC it won't let you buy new games or DLC while in the new area since I recall there being past threads from people who moved across regions and found out about the limitations on it.
Wikipedia says Ironmouse is Puerto Rican. That map posted earlier shows PSN not being available in Puerto Rico. So, kinda justified since she's going to be locked out of the game.
There isn't - like 99% of service games today do this on Steam (have a separate sign-in in addition to Steam), and it's been this way for at least 15 years.
Inconvenience aside - this is what you get if market actually allows for competition that people are always cheering for - so you know, it's supposed to be a good thing. And yes Valve could 'try' to prevent this of course but then that'd be an actual anti-competitive practice.
This has been an issue with the PSN for decades. After account creation, you can not change the region associated to it, ever.
Which is probably also a reason they don't enforce this rule at all.
As a mandatory requirement I mean?
I don't think it was, which is what this is about I think
If she already has an account why is she complaining about it? Oh I know it is about farming her fanbase for clicks and likes.
Are you aware that you can choose any country when you make a PSN account?
I see alot of "Sony messed up" "Sony forcing" type narratives going around. If anything I feel like if shit was really going that well......this was an uneccessary blunder. Could have been avoided.
Yup. Sorry bout it lmao. This is just another case of Gamers Can't Read
Yes. It was disabled rather quickly afterwards in an attempt to lessen server load at launch. Day 1 PC players linked their accounts and moved on with life. Steam has always listed PSN linking as required.
She already has an account, she was playing Stellar blade just the other day and has a PSN account.
Sony not allowing region switching doesn't get enough flak. It's the same with Square Enix/FFXIV accounts and it causes so many issues for people.
Ah that's different to what I thought. In which case, other than any folks that potentially can't play or have some sort of false flag due to region (if any of that is accurate), I don't know entirely what the problem is.
Obviously data collection stuff is something I don't care for beyond anything super trivial and diagnostic. Anything more invasive, and especially super egregious anti-cheat software stuff would stop me buying.
As far as I'm aware, Steam Linking tells you what info they have access to and usually it's fairly light iirc
Huh. Guess that map is wrong.i just made an account "from" puerto rico
PSN works fine in puerto rico, the map maker is just dumb and didnt include it as part of the US lol
Basically this. Probably because it is a territory and not a full state.
Then I was also wrong in turn. Thanks for the correction.Nah, actually my bad. Made this map based on this link, given that this is the source for the number on Wikipedia, but when you actually create an account, the selection is missing some countries on that list. Philippines is one of them.
Here is the correct map:
The awful job the CEO is doing PR wise still stands.
Don't really buy the criticism of the CEO. When your customers are upset, acknowledging them and saying you'll do better in the future is the least you could do. Yeah he posts on Twitter a lot, but I also see high ranking people from Larian doing the same and handling criticism similarly.
Doesn't seem to be an obstacle to delivering the biggest games of 23/24, apparently.
Doesn't seem to be an obstacle to delivering the biggest games of 23/24, apparently.
The true mistake here was for Sony not to make this mandatory from the get-go. Maybe there was a technology related reason for this. I suspect they always knew that adding this post launch was only going to be problematic, and still went ahead to avoid delaying the game (while they were still tweaking their farms of i286 servers lol).
Which is probably 100% true, the question is why do I really care? If you want to play the game, it is the smallest roadblock possible. It is a one time account link, it takes less than 2-3 minutes.
All this comes down to for the vast majority is PC gamers not wanting to have to interact with console icky things. It is so damned childish.
Always nice to see big streamers going the GAMERS RISE UP! route for shit that doesn't actually deserve such energy.
I haven't played in probably 2 weeks, was getting burned out. Gonna log in and buy some credits just to support Arrowhead.
Probably killing each other instead of the bugs as a form of protest! #Freedom
It was mandatory from the get go. Then the unexpected success made it break so they quickly got rid of it to let people play.
Ok, that's getting out of hand. :(
Sony and the devs don't deserve bomb threats.
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