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One year after giving Democratic House candidates more than 60% of their vote, according to polls at the time, the Journal survey found that Hispanic voters are evenly split in their choice for Congress. Asked which party they would back if the election were today, 37% of Hispanic voters said they would support the Republican congressional candidate and 37% said they would favor the Democrat, with 22% undecided.

Messrs. Anzalone and Fabrizio said the poll showed that economic issues were the main concern among Hispanic voters, drawing Hispanic men, in particular, toward the GOP.

Hispanic voters in the survey ranked economic issues as the priority for Mr. Biden and Congress to address. Hispanic men said Republicans had the better economic policy, by a margin of 17 points. Hispanic women, by contrast, said Democrats had better economic plans, by a 10-point margin.
A majority of Hispanic men said they would like to return to the policies that Mr. Trump pursued as president, while a majority of Hispanic women said they would rather stick with Mr. Biden's policies.

"You see in this poll that there's a group of Hispanic men who were without a doubt enticed by Trump and have become more Republican. We have more work to do on that,'' said Mr. Anzalone, referring to Democratic candidates and their allies.

In the Journal survey, Hispanic voters had a negative outlook on the economy, with 25% saying it was headed in the right direction and 63% saying it was headed in the wrong direction. That 38-point gap compared with a 31-point gap among all voters.

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2022 and 2024 bout to be bloodbaths. Seems the split is largely by gender as well.
 

Artorias

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Oct 25, 2017
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There are a lot of conservative Hispanics that come from countries with a conservative culture. This isn't surprising to me.
 

Porygon

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Maybe someday our hispanic friends will understand that because the GOP also believes in god doesn't mean that they have the same interests as them

EDIT: I'm editing this stating that I'm a Mexican, living in Mexico, in a city in the border with the USA, I have family members that crossed illegally there and are now legal residents and this is their point of view and it's not only them, I see this a lot in the border.
 
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Nov 2, 2017
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Shibuya
The gender split is very frustrating. Not that this is demographic specific but it's always depressing seeing that men would vote in a way that has more clear negative impacts on women than the other way around.
 

IrishNinja

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Oct 27, 2017
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#'s skew even higher in south florida, where castro PTSD has people generations removed still treating anything left of thatcher as though the gov't is coming after their stuff

it's a sight to see
 

kiaaa

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Oct 27, 2017
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"socialism" scares a lot of hispanic people. they also tend to be socially conservative and uninformed. I have a bunch of family in Texas that are full qanon Trump nutcases.
 

True Underdog

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Maybe someday our hispanic friends will understand that because the GOP also believes in god doesn't mean that they have the same interests as them

I'm fairly certain this isn't your intent but this comes across as kind of condescending.

I hate that the right are getting votes here but I'm [naively] hoping this will get the Dems to stop taking our votes for granted, but who am I kidding?
 

aftunnels

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Jul 23, 2021
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I live in an area that is predominantly Hispanic (Mexican) and this doesn't surprise me in the least. I don't see how the trend gets reversed in the near term either.
 

Davilmar

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Oct 27, 2017
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Been seeing this for decades in Miami, Florida, and Latinos from Venezuela, Cuba, etc. Democrats are fucked. Latinos were never a monolith, and their vote was far more in dangerous peril than Democrats ever understood.
 

Inugami

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Curious how many would say "neither" if given the option... Neither party exactly prioritizes them. Just look how Sinema made promises then has ghosted her constituents since.
 
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This is one of those things where the inclusion of intersectional identities would provide better context to this data.

Because I have a very sneaky suspicion that the vast majority of Hispanics who do skew conservative would also coincidentally be the whitest or most white aligned of the population. I do know enough about visibly black Hispanics that they're not skewing along those lines in any large number for obvious reasons.
 

wenis

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Oct 25, 2017
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zero surprise. is what it is. i've had zero luck changing more conservative minded folks in my family. not much that can be done besides hope my cousins raise their kids not like their parents did and my nieces and nephews dont spend too much time with "that" side of the family.
 

JDSN

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Oct 27, 2017
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Makes sense, there is no florida Dems and that void has been exploited by the GOP.
New York latinos vote different from florida ones, but this thread willl just be the usual racist dogwhistles said under the veil of "anécdotal evidence".
 

aftunnels

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Jul 23, 2021
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People keep bringing up "Cubans" as the driving force. They make up like 4% of the Hispanic population. The Mexican population makes up close to 62% of the Hispanic population. Focusing on Socialism and Castro completely misses what is going on.
 

Oddish1

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'd be curious to break this down by region. We saw in 2020 that Texas and Florida hispanics moving conservative but here in Arizona it was about the same as previous elections I believe.
 

Apathy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Electing Trump is going to have long long long lasting effects for the politics of the US
 

Shokunin

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Oct 25, 2017
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Democrats don't engage with Hispanic voters. They're not in the community speaking to them, understanding their needs and most importantly: listening to them.

Shit is infuriating.
 

Lakershead22

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm Hispanic and vote democrat. My girlfriend has a grandma who voted for trump because of 'religion and faith' yet has 3 grandchildren who are here 'illegally' smh. Literally votes for the party that hates how her grandchildren reached this country purely based on her faith.
 

That1GoodHunter

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Oct 17, 2019
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Maybe someday our hispanic friends will understand that because the GOP also believes in god doesn't mean that they have the same interests as them
*This*

This is the exact attitude towards minorities that drives me up a wall

I'm not mincing words, You are a racist piece of shit if THAT is how you view us Latinos (which you do, lets be honest)
 
Nov 3, 2021
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Disclaimer: I didn't grow up in the US.

But there is something fishy about "Hispanic" as a demographic filter. Has it ever been super useful for predicting things? For some reason it's the only US ethnic category where you have to hear someone speak before knowing whether to put them in it.
 

BoboBrazil

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Republicans realized that Hispanics/Latinos are the key to maintaining their stranglehold on elections so they are buying up Hispanic publications and radio stations and blanketing other Hispanic media with ads filled with misinformation. Democrats are in a huge amount of trouble, because they want to pretend everything is a-ok as long as they do nothing and appear bipartisan.
 

UltimateHigh

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Oct 25, 2017
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ive learned to ignore anyone who says "it's gonna be a bloodbath " for Dems. was there a leftist memo? I heard that all the time in 2018 and 2020.
 

The Adder

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Oct 25, 2017
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ive learned to ignore anyone who says "it's gonna be a bloodbath " for Dems. was there a leftist memo? I heard that all the time in 2018 and 2020.
As someone who is frequentlt locking horns with those types:

2022 isn't shaping up to be a bloodbath, but it's currently looking like a technical victory and practical defeat. We've got time, though.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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This is a bad thread based on a single survey poll with less then 170 Hispanic participants thread should be closed:






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Dems do have issues with hispanics (from not paying much attention to them etc), but the thread premise is faulty as all hell.


Not really, the premise of the thread is completely accurate. "
Hispanic Voters Now Evenly Split Between Parties, WSJ Poll Finds"

It's explicitly there in that title that's it's based off a single wsj poll. You can disagree with the findings and that's fine, but that doesn't make the premise faulty.
 

UltimateHigh

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As someone who is frequentlt locking horns with those types:

2022 isn't shaping up to be a bloodbath, but it's currently looking like a technical victory and practical defeat. We've got time, though.

we lose the house (expected) and we probably keep the senate.

it sucks but it won't be a bloodbath.

2024.... who the fuck knows, we're not even a year in yet. it won't be a "bloodbath" either way though.
 

Thordinson

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Aug 1, 2018
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we lose the house (expected) and we probably keep the senate.

it sucks but it won't be a bloodbath.

2024.... who the fuck knows, we're not even a year in yet. it won't be a "bloodbath" either way though.

I think it'll be a bit worse than predicted as of right now simply because I see the GOP gaining in state legislatures in red and purple states. I'm not sure about a bloodbath.
 

GYODX

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Oct 27, 2017
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are American Muslims "conservative as fuck"?

that doesn't seem to be the case, especially the younger demographic.
I don't think so. It's selecting from different pools because the barrier to immigration is different for both groups.

The Muslims we do let into the country tend to be from educated, well-off backgrounds, whereas with Latinos you get all sorts of backgrounds.
 

jeelybeans

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Oct 25, 2017
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They never ask follow up questions in these things. Which economic policies would these Hispanic men like to return to that Trump enacted? There's no way most of them would be able to name one...
 

jeelybeans

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Oct 25, 2017
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are American Muslims "conservative as fuck"?

that doesn't seem to be the case, especially the younger demographic.

Muslim Americans were George Bush Republicans. They have essentially gotten pushed out of the party due to Islamophobia, and that's conversely made them more liberal over time (mostly the younger ones).
 

TAJ

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Oct 28, 2017
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are American Muslims "conservative as fuck"?

that doesn't seem to be the case, especially the younger demographic.

All the ones I've worked with (and I've almost exclusively worked with Muslims for twelve years now) and their families have been off-the-charts conservative in most ways, but they won't consider voting Republican just because the party is so anti-Muslim.
I don't work with anyone young, but I spend a lot of time with young family and they check almost all of the conservative boxes, too. The only one I'd call centrist or liberal is a mid-50s dude who moved here from Singapore in his 20s.
 
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GYODX

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They never ask follow up questions in these things. Which economic policies would these Hispanic men like to return to that Trump enacted? There's no way most of them would be able to name one...
"Trump may be a racist, but he was one hell of an administrator."

Real quote from my step-brother.
 

The Driver

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Oct 25, 2017
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People keep bringing up "Cubans" as the driving force. They make up like 4% of the Hispanic population. The Mexican population makes up close to 62% of the Hispanic population. Focusing on Socialism and Castro completely misses what is going on.
Fr lol. This a Latino/hispanic problem in general. I'm Mexican/puerto Rican and I know ppl on both sides of that coin who sip the conservative tea, or guzzle it tbf.

I would say look at what the have in common, stuff like a strict "love" of a Christian God and the patriarchal/authoritarian framework the Catholic Church can ingrain, which is fucking HUGE in hispanic populations.
 

UltimateHigh

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All the ones I've worked with (and I've almost exclusively worked with Muslims for twelve years now) and their families have been off-the-charts conservative in most ways, but they won't consider voting Republican just because the party is so anti-Muslim.
I don't work with anyone young, but I spend a lot of time with young family and they check almost all of the conservative boxes, too. The only one I'd call centrist or liberal is a mid-50s dude who moved here from Singapore in his 20s.

that's acedotal though.

the last survey I saw on say American Muslims LGBTQ acceptance, it was up over 50% nowadays. that's pretty good. I'm sure they're liberal is plenty of other ways too.

the Muslim community we have here in southern maine seem quite liberal as well.
 
May 26, 2018
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I mean... Fascism appeals to anyone as long as you aren't on the absolute bottom rung getting killed en masse by it. Generally. We've seen that all across the world at various points in history. Being in power, with consequence-free violence enforcing that power, feels good to a lot of people.
 

TAJ

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For a minute I forgot about four actual liberal Muslims that I know. But they're into some Muslim mysticism.
 
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