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How are we in a timeline where Biden is still the head candidate for the Dems?

Depths

Depths

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm not old "old" but I'm definitely an older millennial according to the age range. I can't understand how dude is still the one the majority of Dems want after comments like, "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy", when referring to Obama. Is this still a situation of older people controlling the democratic party? I feel like I'll be dead before any real change takes place. It seems like status quo again and again. When do we start unifying on a different approach? The left vote seems very centrist.
 
GoutPatrol

GoutPatrol

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Oct 30, 2017
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Three Stooges syndrome, just like the Republicans in 2016. Too many candidates, all think they have a chance, no one willing to drop out early, the person with the highest Q score wins almost by default.
 
PlanetSmasher

PlanetSmasher

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Oct 25, 2017
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Because we're trapped in an endless nightmare and the only way to wake up is to kill the Wind Fish with dynamite.
 
y3k

y3k

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Oct 25, 2017
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Because we live in a nightmare hellscape from which there is no reprieve nor escape.
 
Mr. Keith

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Oct 31, 2017
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I think a lot of it has to do with people being upset with how Trump has been tarnishing Obama's legacy and wanting to go back to the days before.

Biden was the vice president so people are looking to him as the best person to fix everything Trump is breaking.
 

OtherWorldly

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Dec 3, 2018
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Because he is the best person for the one job

also because folks outside era bubble are right of era folks and they are 70% of dem voters

also because people remember Obama years fondly

also because they want normalcy before reform
 

jviggy43

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Oct 28, 2017
18,184
Because America is incredibly racist, doesn't care about women, and is only interested in furthering the interests of wealthy white men-Which is basically Biden's campaign slogan.
 
Haze

Haze

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Oct 25, 2017
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Because the polls and climate around candidates right now means fuck all. We're almost a year removed from meaningful debates and we still have a huge field of one issue nobodies who are there to get some FaceTime and maybe some book deals.

thecouncil said:
How well does the safe option usually work out for the opposing party?
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Lets ask our good friend John Kerry
 

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DGenerator said:
Because the convention is like 11 fucking months away, we've had zero primaries and he was the Vice President. That's why he's still the head candidate.
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For real, I'm tired of people acting like the Election is already over when we are nearly 6 months out from it getting serious. It's the same nonsense that happened in 2016 that pissed me off
 
Haze

Haze

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Zexion said:
For real, I'm tired of people acting like the Election is already over when we are nearly 6 months out from it getting serious. It's the same nonsense that happened in 2016 that pissed me off
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Like for real it's so frustrating people are already settling into this defeatist attitude. Anecdotally it's happening with my friends and my bubble on social media too.
 
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Depths

Depths

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Oct 25, 2017
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Zexion said:
For real, I'm tired of people acting like the Election is already over when we are nearly 6 months out from it getting serious. It's the same nonsense that happened in 2016 that pissed me off
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I didn't say the election is over. I just don't understand why he is even ahead now.
 
Hierophant

Hierophant

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Oct 25, 2017
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OtherWorldly said:
Because he is the best person for the one job

also because folks outside era bubble are right of era folks and they are 70% of dem voters

also because people remember Obama years fondly

also because they want normalcy before reform
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damn i knew you were a biden stan but thinking he's the best person for the job of the president of the united states is pretty uhhhh
speaks alot about your political priorities
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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People want to vote blue no matter what and they see Joe Biden as the safe option because he was Obama's VP and because the media loves talking about him.
OtherWorldly said:
Because he is the best person for the one job

also because folks outside era bubble are right of era folks and they are 70% of dem voters

also because people remember Obama years fondly

also because they want normalcy before reform
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lmao
"Nothing will fundamentally change."
"Poor kids are just as smart as white kids."
"There's an awful lot of really good Republicans out there."
 
ShotyMcFat

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Oct 29, 2017
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The polls for the last 4 years, not just in the US but Aus, and UK have been wrong. For all we know they could be wrong now, on top of that we aren't even close to the first vote being cast literally anything can happen between now and then.

Plus Biden is the same as Hillary, every time he opens his mouth his polls go down. Also eveytime he runs he basically shoots himself in the foot, and there's a good chance he'll do it again.
 
Hierophant

Hierophant

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Oct 25, 2017
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Sydney
Pretty cool how the candidate who's literally cutting back on his screentime to limit "gaffes" (misfiring neurons) is considered the best frontrunner by the media, even his own wife had to backhandedly endorse him with a "you just gotta swallow bad shit sometimes", truly the most inspiring candidate.
 
Doober

Doober

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Jun 10, 2018
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The candidate pool is weak as fuck and the average Democrat isn't nearly as woke as the average ERA poster.
 
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Depths

Depths

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hierophant said:
Pretty cool how the candidate who's literally cutting back on his screentime to limit "gaffes" (misfiring neurons) is considered the best frontrunner by the media, even his own wife had to backhandedly endorse him with a "you just gotta swallow bad shit sometimes", truly the most inspiring candidate.
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Yup. Eat it up.
 

Gyro Zeppeli

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Oct 27, 2017
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Because many Americans are fucking idiotic, and don't understand when the rich are manipulating them. Bernie Sanders is the person that should be representing them, but no, they buy into the "electability" reasoning and "a return to the Obama era." When people say they want to return to the Obama years, they're not actually saying anything because outside of the ACA (which isn't that great of a healthcare plan at all), nothing else was particularly note-worthy during that presidency.
 
Thorn

Thorn

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Oct 25, 2017
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ResetEra needs to realize the average D voter is older and moderate.

The young base is loud but DOESN'T VOTE WHEN IT MATTERS.
 

JesseEwiak

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Oct 31, 2017
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Depths said:
I'm not old "old" but I'm definitely an older millennial according to the age range. I can't understand how dude is still the one the majority of Dems want after comments like, "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy", when referring to Obama. Is this still a situation of older people controlling the democratic party? I feel like I'll be dead before any real change takes place. It seems like status quo again and again. When do we start unifying on a different approach? The left vote seems very centrist.
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Because the average Democratic voter is a black woman in her mid-50's, who thinks pretty much all white people are a flavor of racist, so Joe Biden saying dumb racist things doesn't surprise her, but she's going to trust guy The First Black President was OK with, until another candidate can prove themselves.

Again, the average voting age in the 2016 Democratic primary - ya' know, the one where Bernie supposedly started a new left-wing movement? It's was 55. Also, the average voting age is only going up as America itself gets older.
 
XMonkey

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DGenerator said:
Because the convention is like 11 fucking months away, we've had zero primaries and he was the Vice President. That's why he's still the head candidate.
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One and done.

People just aren't paying a lot of attention right now so when they talk to a pollster it's easy to go with the person you already know. He's also still very popular with older Democrats and there are a lot of them out there.
 

JesseEwiak

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Oct 31, 2017
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Clusterdreams said:
Because the polls and climate around candidates right now means fuck all. We're almost a year removed from meaningful debates and we still have a huge field of one issue nobodies who are there to get some FaceTime and maybe some book deals.


Lets ask our good friend John Kerry
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You mean John Kerry, who over preformed the fundamentals and got within a hundred thousand votes in Ohio of beating a wartime President who still had a 50%+ approval rating and a strong economy?
 
Haze

Haze

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Thorn said:
ResetEra needs to realize the average D voter is older and moderate.

The young base is loud but DOESN'T VOTE WHEN IT MATTERS.
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Young people didn't want to vote for Hillary. The 2016 election had the overall lowest voter turnout in 2 decades. I'm not a Bernie bro but I'm willing to bet if he had won the nom the "young people" would have turned out.
 
Doober

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Clusterdreams said:
Young people didn't want to vote for Hillary. The 2016 election had the overall lowest voter turnout in 2 decades. I'm not a Bernie bro but I'm willing to bet if he had won the nom the "young people" would have turned out.
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Which was really fucking shortsighted considering the stakes.

Sadly, I fully expect young people to pat themselves on the back again in 2020 for saving the world from a President Biden.
 
Haze

Haze

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Doober said:
Which was really fucking shortsighted considering the stakes.

Sadly, I fully expect young people to pat themselves on the back again in 2020 for saving the world from a President Biden.
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Oh absolutely if Biden is what we get that's what we get. I'm voting for a pack of lunchables if that's who wins the nom.
 
Soul Skater

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Oct 25, 2017
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The rest of the field has done a shit job at effectively making a case they are more *electable* than he is even if his issues are so obvious, someone has to beat him

But nobody seems to really like anyone else
 
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Depths

Depths

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Oct 25, 2017
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XMonkey said:
One and done.

People just aren't paying a lot of attention right now so when they talk to a pollster it's easy to go with the person you already know. He's also still very popular with older Democrats and there are a lot of them out there.
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Ok, you're probably right, and maybe I'm just paying more attention to this stuff than I had before. I guess just wish more younger people would pay attention.
 
Thorn

Thorn

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Oct 25, 2017
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Clusterdreams said:
Young people didn't want to vote for Hillary. The 2016 election had the overall lowest voter turnout in 2 decades. I'm not a Bernie bro but I'm willing to bet if he had won the nom the "young people" would have turned out.
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Statistically they probably wouldn't. Betting on the youth vote has always been bad.
 
DGenerator

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Oct 26, 2017
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To give you perspective on how far away the DNC convention is, Canada will have its campaign period and election finished nine months before a candidate is declared for the Democrats.
 

Ecotic

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Oct 27, 2017
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Biden is starving the non-socialist wing of the party of political oxygen. They can't get any media coverage to break out from the pack. Like, if you don't support the Bernie/Warren/AOC wing of the party and you're looking for a candidate whose polling high enough to consider supporting, then you're left with Biden and then an intimidating list of 15 candidates who can't poll high enough to warrant consideration. Harris, Booker, Buttigieg, and Castro just can't compete with the stature of having been a two-term VP to Obama. The big shame of having Biden run is he's denying Democrats a real contest.
 

Gyro Zeppeli

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Oct 27, 2017
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Soul Skater said:
The rest of the field has done a shit job at effectively making a case they are more *electable* than he is even if his issues are so obvious, someone has to beat him

But nobody seems to really like anyone else
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The problem is people have different criteria for what makes a person "electable," which is why I would counter that Sanders and Warren have already laid it all out as to why they are "electable," and they're just getting started. Biden isn't talking about compelling policy because he knows he has nothing earth-shattering to offer to voters. He can only point to his history as VP, and that he's somehow the best person to take on Trump, but he doesn't explain why.
 
darz1

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Dec 18, 2017
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Because Hilary didnt win, so this time odds go back to old white man. Its a safe bet. Not the best candidate, but a safe one
 
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