But they did have two or so of their games exclusive to New 3DS
A few did make it there.
My feelings exactly. This is a PS4 Pro situation, the base Switch will outsell the Switch Pro as long as it's available. Every game being developed will aim for adequate OG performance.
Even when the NS+ is firing on all cylinders, by then, the OG model and Lite will probably receive price drops and become attractive all over again.
I seriously doubt there are gonna be exclusives at all. If what we've heard so far about the new Switch is all there is to it, I'd just expect higher image quality on the new version and that's it. They should still be playable on the OG Switch.
It could just be prettier versions of games. True.
I guess I don't really get the question.
If you're a bystander, why would it matter?
If you own the pro, why would you be disappointed for others to have the option to play some of the games the same way?
If you own the OG Switch, I can see where it could be frustrating if third parties abandon the OG to cloud ports entirely, but that's highly unlikely for the vast majority of third party titles. A cloud title is a much harder sell than a native port, and most third parties won't want to abandon the market potential of nearly 100M users.
Cloud games are a harder sell, unless they came with a cartridge/eShope purchase, so that when you do upgrade your system, you can now play natively.
Fair!
I don't think anyone is expecting exclusives from Nintendo. Especially not anytime soon. Maybe way down the li e when a successor is released we could get a Fire Emblem Warriors situation.
People are expecting third party games on other platforms that would be very difficult to port to the OG Switch.
Yeah, mostly third parties.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a big demanding third party or two launch exclusive on the new model.
From there I don't really see Nintendo preventing companies from doing it, but I don't see many companies jumping to make much of any games exclusive because of the massive portion of the install base they would be missing out on.
If I can get Street Fighter VI on the go, I want it! Please, Capcom.
But those were ports from more powerful hardware. No such Nintendo games exist relative to the Switch.
It would be good if people actually read the OP. It is clearly talking about games from more powerful platforms, not games developed exclusively for the Switch, such as 1st party.
Thanks for reading the original post. Exactly!
As a backup option that's fine. I do not like not being able to backup them locally though.
A last choice for me too, but if it's the only one and I had no other system/no cash to upgrade, I'd take it.
Seems like a band aid option for owners of the original which kinda sucks for original owners. I think some companies would just not spend the time and investment to make a playable version on OG Switch even if it was possible if it became the norm.
My question also would be if the cloud version would come with the physical, pro version? Seeing as companies really like to rip off Nintedo users I wonder if they'd try and charge you seperately for physical for pro and cloud for OG.
Ideally, companies would tie a cloud release to said eShop download/cartridge.
I really hope so.
Cloud versions for the OG model, and games that actually take advantage of the improved hardware. Best case scenario for me, but I can see why people would be against it.
I'm glad you like the idea. Thanks!
The fact of the matter is that there are quite a few games on other systems that just can't be ported to the existing Switch. If they were possible, they would likely be on the OG Switch already (Ex: RE7).
And then there's stuff like Grand Theft Auto V. Come on...no reason why it shouldn't be on Nintendo Switch by now.
Oh yea I understand that. I think it would be a shame if companies started to default to creating a cloud version instead of considering a port. Things like Dragon Quest or Witcher 3 for example which were possible to port and well regarded but problably were quite an investment. I could see it being a hard sell to argue for a native port if a Cloud version is cheaper and easier to provide.
Here's to getting the best of both worlds whenever possible!
As others have said, the audience for the OG Switch is massive. If a native port for the OG Switch is possible, they'd go for it.
I'd think so as well. Kind of unfortunate that there's no GTAV after 4 years though. I played the game on my Xbox One, then my Xbox One X here and there...and depending on the Xbox Series X improvements, will hop in more or less, once more. That being said though, I'd probably double dip for a portable version if one were available.
if there's a crossbuy option i'd be fine with it. if i bought a cloud version of a game, i'd want to get the native version for free when i upgrade to a switch pro.
Yeah that'd be nice.
Nintendo will stay on regular Switch. It's the third parties we're talking about. You simply cannot have Mafia 1 or Red Dead 2 running on regular Switch. It's either Switch Pro or none at all.
By the time PS5 and XSX gen grows big enough, third parties will abandon the old Switch regardless. Games will be too demanding to have downports of. Even something like The Witcher 3 took a year to bring to Switch.
But as everyone said, many of Resetera members don't use their Switches for anything beside first party titles and indies. It's natural for those folk to understand to concept of this. Switch Pro is clearly not for them. It's Nintendo's attempt to make presence in the mainstream gaming area. Switch has already missed many important titles like Call of Duty, Battlefield and Star Wars games. It's totally make sense for Nintendo to want a slice of that cake.
Yeah, this could be the machine that really further bridges the mainstream gap. And perhaps by Nintendo Switch 2's release, Big N is back with an epic machine that everyone in the industry seriously considers as their #1 platform of choice. A whole lot has to go right in order for that to happen though.
I'm vaguely expecting games to be tailored to the pro, released on OG but optimisiation slipping on OG. From the third party perspective at least.
I can see that.
And would a cloud solution really be the easy option? Sounds like more of a commitment than print, sell and forget port.
Hard to say how easy it would be. Nintendo would need a good infrastructure to run it all.
ps4 pro had no exclusives so why should switch pro or plus or whatever
PS4 wasn't in a position where it'd soon be old/weak. It was already ahead of Xbox One and like the Xbox One X, PS4 Pro was just made to run games better. Nintendo Switch on the other hand, is now 4 years older and more than that amount weaker than PS5 and Xbox Series X, with a divide in games capable of running on it, only going to widen. It's a powerful enough of a hit with enough life left, that a Nintendo Switch 2 doesn't need to come out just yet. However, if Nintendo isn't smart and doesn't do something to make the brand new and exciting, then sooner or later, it will get less culturally significant as PS5 and Xbox Series X take over. Nintendo Switch Plus being able to play some of the other console's games, once again makes it a hot and compelling platform.
I don't care I am usually in favor of more options for ppl
if this is comparable to a ps4 pro jump it shouldn't be an issue but... this seems bigger than that? Could be mistaken
It does seem to be bigger for NS than what PS4 Pro was to PS4, but we'll see...
There will be a lot of PS4 + Xbox One ports that were simply impossible on the current Switch due to it's CPU. The new CPU could be up to an 8x improvement then you probably have double the GPU power, double the ram (with at least double the memory bandwidth). It's probably going to be an enormous leap in tech over the original and that's ignoring DLSS which will take 1080p games to 4k when docked.
I think it's going to be amazing!
The difference between the Playstation 4 and Playstation 4 Pro or Xbox One and Xbox One X is not the same universe as the difference between the current Nintendo Switch and the Playstation 5/Xbox Series X.
The Switch is ALREADY completely locked out of ports from the new-gen consoles, so if the new Switch isn't it is getting exclusives by default.
In order for Nintendo to stay relevant, I think that beyond the next hit Zelda, Pokemon, and Metroid, it needs a current platform that also gets some of PS5/Xbox Series X's heavy hitters.
this topic headline makes me shudder
Haha, sorry!
I'd rather not have any exclusives at all. Every game should run natively in both models in some capacity, otherwise don't bother with it
I see.
I suppose it's better than not coming at all. I've never played a cloud game but I'd be interested to try.
The couple I tried on Nintendo Switch did work great for me! Others have not had the best experience, but that largely depends on your internet speed.
I think that the majority of "no" votes here are answering the wrong question– instead expressing that they don't want exclusive games to start with. Because otherwise, what's the harm? Better than not having it at all, as others have said. Some games simply won't be able to run on both models.
Well said, thank you. Isn't it better to have in some way than not at all? That way you don't feel abandoned...because you weren't going to get it originally in the first place.
How would I feel?
Bad. Obviously.
It's seems like a buckwild thing to do...which is why I have to believe that it is something Nintendo is definitely considering.
I am really dreading a switch upgrade. It's gonna be:
- Saves won't transfer over
- Licenses won't transfer over
- Accounts won't transfer over
- Screenshots you accidentally took will
- That demo you downloaded and forgot to play will be the only thing you can access.
The screenshots and demo bit gave me a good laugh. Nintendo Switch does allow you to transfer content between systems though.
Some pubs don't even want to use 16gb carts and people expect 32/64 ones to be used?
lol.
Prices are dropping. 32gb cartridges in 2021 cost less than they did in 2017. A year from now, 64gb cartridges shouldn't be a crazy thought. Plus, though not ideal, a portion of games could fit on a 32gb cartridge, with the rest requiring internal/Micro SDXC storage space.
If it's just a mid gen refresh, then no exclusive. I'm ok with my current Switch.
I like mine too, but will upgrade even if it's not tremendous...but I also love new tech.
You can already transfer all of those things
Right!
It's kind of amazing how many people here still don't know this.
True.
How would you feel if it's a Switch Plus with exclusives, then the following device is a Switch 3 while Nintendo continues to support the Switch Plus?
If by "properly" you mean like Hyrule Warriors 3D, I don't see it. I imagine the Breath of the Wild sequel will have similar performance to the original on the base hardware. There's not really much need to push it further when the upgraded model is targeting 4K (and potentially a higher frame rate now that they're experimenting with Skyward Sword).
Not just compression, but asset quality. You could slash assets (which make up the vast majority of game storage) to 1/4 the level of detail for the Switch and nobody would bat an eye. Compressing something that's closer to ~30-40 GB and maybe requiring a little extra be downloaded to get under 16 GB? Perfectly reasonable. Or if they're cheaper by then, 32 GB carts exist and should be borderline easy to fit the game in.
I can see BotW2 being a 900p 30fps game while docked, with better textures, slightly enhanced polygon models, increased draw distance, and overall, improved lighting and shadows on Nintendo Switch. What I'd love to see if while running on Nintendo Switch Plus, we got a 1440p 60fps experience, while every other detail I mentioned also received a reasonable bump. That would be wonderful in my opinion. And yeah, compression and split cartridge/download is something I'm down with.
Not right away especially if it's $400 usd
It makes me wonder if this will be a $350 or $400 console...
You absolute monster!!! How low do you want the door texture to be? 4x4 texture?
Beautiful game right the...what did you do!? But hey, even as such, if it ran smoothly, it'd be better than nothing, right?
