I’m watching Die Hard right now.

julian · Dec 25, 2020

Garp TXB said:
Are you barefoot on a carpet?

Fists with your toes!

GTOAkira said:
Its actually crazy how much little details you only noticed after the 10th times lol. Like the fact that one of the terrorist is actually french and even speaks french. Or how when john first enter the building they show you the complete lack of any kind of protection but also how everything in the building is controlled by one system.
Such a fucking good movie.

It's a rare movie where nearly every line relates to something later on. Seriously. Nearly every line.

myojinsoga said:
Watched it today and the thing I learned was that it is based on a book, and that book is "Nothing Lasts Forever" by Roderick Thorp. And I am going to track down that book, and it's precursor "The Detective", and read them.

It has some major differences. Like he's a lot older and visiting his daughter. He even gets the number of the flight attendant, which they pseudo reference at the start of the movie. There are a few other book references like one of the architectural models and the way McClane tracks the floors which is briefly seen in the film but a very explicit scene in the books. There are some big differences but then I'd be spoiling stuff....I also read the book Die Hard 2 was based on. I was a big Die Hard fan as a kid. Lol. I got the crew jacket from Die Hard With A Vengeance as a birthday gift once. I should clean it. It's a bit big but pretty warm.

CrichtonKicks · Dec 25, 2020

myojinsoga said:
Watched it today and the thing I learned was that it is based on a book, and that book is "Nothing Lasts Forever" by Roderick Thorp. And I am going to track down that book, and it's precursor "The Detective", and read them.

What's truly bizarre is that they were forced by contract to offer Die Hard to Frank Sinatra first because he was the star of the film adaptation of The Detective.

julian said:
It has some major differences. Like he's a lot older and visiting his daughter. He even gets the number of the flight attendant, which they pseudo reference at the start of the movie. There are a few other book references like one of the architectural models and the way McClane tracks the floors which is briefly seen in the film but a very explicit scene in the books. There are some big differences but then I'd be spoiling stuff....I also read the book Die Hard 2 was based on. I was a big Die Hard fan as a kid. Lol. I got the crew jacket from Die Hard With A Vengeance as a birthday gift once. I should clean it. It's a bit big but pretty warm.

Yeah this was me as well as a child of the '80s. Read both "Nothing Lasts Forever" and "58 Minutes".

UltimateHigh · Dec 25, 2020

SCUMMbag said:
Just finished watching. Perfect film.

Pretty much.

Deleted member 11637 · Dec 25, 2020

You ask for miracles, Theo, I give you the efffff beeeee iiiiiii.

julian · Dec 25, 2020

CrichtonKicks said:
Yeah this was me as well as a child of the '80s. Read both "Nothing Lasts Forever" and "58 Minutes".

Me reading 58 Minutes: "Why is Sonny Bono here?!"

CrichtonKicks · Dec 25, 2020

McTiernan and Jan De Bont were an absolute perfect match. Their work in Die Hard and Hunt For Red October is just astounding.

What happened to De Bont after his directing career fizzled anyway?

Merv · Dec 25, 2020

Rickman's U.S. accent. /chefs kiss

CrichtonKicks · Dec 25, 2020

Merv said:
Rickman's U.S. accent. /chefs kiss

Showed my daughter Die Hard for the first time this week and she was legit confused for a minute thinking it was an entirely new character introduced.

Merv · Dec 25, 2020

CrichtonKicks said:
Showed my daughter Die Hard for the first time this week and she was legit confused for a minute thinking it was an entirely new character introduced.

Looking back in hindsight it seems off, but I do legit remember not catching it immediately when I was younger.

Gaius Cassius · Dec 25, 2020

GTOAkira said:
Its actually crazy how much little details you only noticed after the 10th times lol. Like the fact that one of the terrorist is actually french and even speaks french. Or how when john first enter the building they show you the complete lack of any kind of protection but also how everything in the building is controlled by one system.
Such a fucking good movie.

The more I hear about the book, the more I sort of expect a pseudo remake happening with an older McClane. I'd enjoy it far better than another random sequel set somewhere else in the globe anyway.

Sabin · Dec 25, 2020

Love Die Hard and definitely a christmas movie

FlashbladeERA · Dec 25, 2020

My family and I just finished it.

scottbeowulf · Dec 25, 2020

Watched last night and it makes me grin so hard it hurts. Almost a perfect movie for me. I love it so much.

CrichtonKicks · Dec 25, 2020

Gaius Cassius said:
The more I hear about the book, the more I sort of expect a pseudo remake happening with an older McClane. I'd enjoy it far better than another random sequel set somewhere else in the globe anyway.

Before Disney acquired Fox I imagine there were several pitches at a "proper" Die Hard sequel that recaptures the magic of the original(s). The stumbling block was probably believing that Willis was really ready to step up and give a shit again.

However Disney probably don't care in the slightest. We're more likely to get a Lucy McClane spinoff on Disney+ now.

ZackieChan · Dec 25, 2020

earthdogjon said:
Seemed pretty obvious to me that it was a joke on one of the Johnsons being African American.

What? They're both introduced as being Agent Johnson. One of them being black has nothing to do with the joke.

Zoe · Dec 25, 2020

ZackieChan said:
What? They're both introduced as being Agent Johnson. One of them being black has nothing to do with the joke.

The credits even call them Big Johnson and Little Johnson.

scottbeowulf · Dec 25, 2020

Zoe said:
The credits even call them Big Johnson and Little Johnson.

Natsume Soseki · Dec 25, 2020

I finally watched it for the first time yesterday.

It's definitely a classic.

ZackieChan · Dec 25, 2020

Zoe said:
The credits even call them Big Johnson and Little Johnson.

Maybe I've been wrong all my life

Bor Gullet · Dec 26, 2020

kmg90 said:
It's amazing how much of the first 30 minutes I don't remember.

I also watched last night and if you were to have asked before that how the movie starts, I would have totally missed the first 30 minutes of the movie.

Also Reginald VelJohnson's character arc would not fly today, a former "street cop" now mainly doing "desk cop"-duty because he shot a 13-year old kid because he thought he had a real gun.

Especially because it's supposed to be a sympathetic backstory and his arc is learning how to kill again.

But at least he's not a white cop lol...

Finaika · Dec 26, 2020

I watched it with Ame & Gura, god tier movie.

Tremorah · Dec 26, 2020

Every christmas, its just not christmas without yippee-ki-yay, motherfucker

RefreshZ · Dec 26, 2020

ZackieChan said:
What? They're both introduced as being Agent Johnson. One of them being black has nothing to do with the joke.

Exactly. It's just a quirky joke. Emblematic of an inspired script that was just happy to have some fun with its characters.

Jeremy · Dec 26, 2020

The jokes about California early on bothered me a lot more than the two Johnsons thing, which never felt like a racial joke to me.

Blader · Dec 26, 2020

she_esh said:
Not enough is said about how the film satirizes macho bullshit by having completely hot-headed authority figures that are totally ineffectual while having a hero that it allows to be vulnerable and actually have recognizable human emotions, especially in an era where movies like Commando were the standard.

I don't really think John McClane is a satire of 80s macho bullshit lol. The guns-blazing, rogue-cop-who-plays-by-his-own-rules character while the ostensibly 'real' authorities sit on the sidelines uselessly IS the standard macho bullshit. I mean hell, Reginald VelJohnson's big coming-into-his-own moment is when he finally gets to shoot a bad guy himself!

CrichtonKicks said:
Before Disney acquired Fox I imagine there were several pitches at a "proper" Die Hard sequel that recaptures the magic of the original(s). The stumbling block was probably believing that Willis was really ready to step up and give a shit again.

However Disney probably don't care in the slightest. We're more likely to get a Lucy McClane spinoff on Disney+ now.

The director of Live Free or Die Hard was trying for years to get a Die Hard: Year One movie going but it never took. I think it's dead for good now, post-merger.

GTOAkira · Dec 26, 2020

Also man the movie is actually quite gory especially when one of the terrorist get his knee completely ripped appart by a machine gun.

Wag · Dec 26, 2020

The Deputy Police Chief has all the best lines.

Darkgable · Dec 26, 2020

FTF said:
It really is the freakin best.

lol I love when he starts eating that candy bar.

Love that even on a virtually empty floor, he's still looking around to see if anyone is watching him.

Modest_Modsoul · Dec 26, 2020

I adore this film.

BrickArts295 · Dec 26, 2020

Saw it yesterday for the first time. Will be a mandatory for me to watch it every Christmas going forward.

GTOAkira · Dec 26, 2020

I think it might be the action movie with the best music choices. It litteraly has the perfect bg music for every single scenes. Also how many terrorist are still alive at the end? I counted 2 but Im not to sure. Theo is def still alive.

myojinsoga · Dec 26, 2020

Blader said:
I don't really think John McClane is a satire of 80s macho bullshit lol. The guns-blazing, rogue-cop-who-plays-by-his-own-rules character while the ostensibly 'real' authorities sit on the sidelines uselessly IS the standard macho bullshit. I mean hell, Reginald VelJohnson's big coming-into-his-own moment is when he finally gets to shoot a bad guy himself!
...

I was amused / interested that John McLane himself name-drops both Rambo and Arnold Schwarzenegger, in Die Hard.

GTOAkira said:
I think it might be the action movie with the best music choices. It litteraly has the perfect bg music for every single scenes. Also how many terrorist are still alive at the end? I counted 2 but Im not to sure. Theo is def still alive.

All the incidental music was good. But I love Beethoven's 9th, and enjoyed the way Die Hard darkened it, played with it, then let it rip. Good stuff.

ZackieChan · Dec 26, 2020

RefreshZ said:
Exactly. It's just a quirky joke. Emblematic of an inspired script that was just happy to have some fun with its characters.

Is it about dicks?

Melchiah · Dec 26, 2020

Zoe · Dec 26, 2020

ZackieChan said:
Is it about dicks?

Big Johnson is the Goonies guy though 🤔

OtisPepperoni · Dec 26, 2020

Bor Gullet said:
Especially because it's supposed to be a sympathetic backstory and his arc is learning how to kill again.

But at least he's not a white cop lol...

I'd say the only bad part of the movie is Al shooting Karl. And you could cut it right out and not miss a beat

Mr. Bad Example · Dec 26, 2020

I'm old enough to have seen it on the big screen when it was in theaters the first time. It was amazing.

Paperboywriter · Dec 26, 2020

Me too, fell asleep though

CrichtonKicks · Dec 26, 2020

Mr. Bad Example said:
I'm old enough to have seen it on the big screen when it was in theaters the first time. It was amazing.

Yep. The newspaper ad below was an accurate feeling of what it felt like to see Die Hard in a theater on release.

I’m watching Die Hard right now.

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