Nintendo's games aren't significantly better in quality on the whole than the games of numerous other companies that do more regular price drops, so I don't think that your analogy holds.
To OP, buy Switch games used.
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I bought a switch and everything game costs crazy money.
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Nintendo's games aren't significantly better in quality on the whole than the games of numerous other companies that do more regular price drops, so I don't think that your analogy holds.
To OP, buy Switch games used.
It just is what it is win Nintendo.
I mostly buy physical, often with GCU (RIP) or Prime 20% discount, and sell after I'm done to keep costs down. You at least benefit on the flip side when selling since resell value stays high.
I mostly buy physical, often with GCU (RIP) or Prime 20% discount, and sell after I'm done to keep costs down. You at least benefit on the flip side when selling since resell value stays high.
If I'm purchasing a game at launch I'd much rather do it knowing the game will retain the majority of its value.
Regardless, my point was that Nintendo not dropping the prices of their game doesn't equal them ripping anyone off and some would argue the exact same to other Publishers for dropping the prices heavily. In the end, each Publisher is going to handle it the best way that suits them and each strategy has its merits and downsides, but neither are "ripping people off".
It holds. you want better quality and craftsmanship you need to pay for it.
First party games are selling better as ever on Switch, despite having more third party support than Wii, Wii U, DS and 3DS.
No, I am sorry, but there are numerous companies that offer that level of quality and craftsmanship, and there are Nintendo games that fall short of that level.
It fails.
Then why are they the same price at launch? They just don't participate in discounts on the same time frame.
Value for your money;
Stardew Valley
Lumines
Pocket Rumble
Thumper
Mighty Gunvolt Burst
Bloodstained: Curse of the moon
Hollow Knight
Shovel Knight
Death road to Canada
A Robot Named Fight
Steamworld Dig 2
Stardew Valley
Lumines
Pocket Rumble
Thumper
Mighty Gunvolt Burst
Bloodstained: Curse of the moon
Hollow Knight
Shovel Knight
Death road to Canada
A Robot Named Fight
Steamworld Dig 2
Even though some of those are arguable but let's go with it and compare the Switch support to PS4 and Xbox one, it's really not close.
This.
But some people can't afford or simply don't want another console, which is completely understandable.
I've a Switch and the sole reason I've yet to own Splatoon 2 is cause it's barely ever on sale where I live and I ain't dropping full price for it.
I've waited this long, and I'll wait longer.
I've waited this long, and I'll wait longer.
Switch currently has 38 titles that scored over 80% on Metacritic this year, PS4 has 30 titles and Xbox One "only" 19 titles. You were saying?
It was 40 bucks recently... besides the game has much more content now than at launch.
I usually don't mind Nintendo's prices for games. It's better to have $60 games than having microtransaction bullshit. However, I do think that they need to reevaluate their e-shop prices. There is no reason for digital Breath of the Wild to cost the same as physical.
There are really shit food trucks too, some there just to make a quick buck and resell old recipes just more expensive because of the food truck scene.
Ugh, I don't see how that have anything to do with what I was saying?
Digital prices are ok in Sweden, 52.5 Euros give or take vs 59 retail. Plus you get the gold coins
People calling other companies games "disposable" are funny. Kirby doesn't magically becomes more valuable than God of War because it comes from Nintendo haha
No publisher is undercutting retail prices in a big way without loosing retailer support. The MSRP prices on other system are also high as hell in digital ..Fifa and co. won't be cheap on any system on Day 1 digitally.
I always felt that buying a game for 7000¥ on release then seeing it discounted to 4000¥ the next week was the rip off. Buying a game and having it retain its value is a good thing.
I can definitely acquiesce with this PoV being someone who spent £50(!) on Evolve. Yes that game.
Though the opposite way of thinking is not without merit either of course.
I will never for the life of me understand how people will defend companies like Nintendo for stuff like this
nothing about their shitty ass pricing model helps you
you're not only allowing them to insult your intelligence...you're defending and praising them for it
it's mindblowing.
you think Zelda selling for $59.99 3 years after its release is going to somehow cause more games to come to the Switch?
the fuck lol
no, you're just getting ripped off
nothing about their shitty ass pricing model helps you
you're not only allowing them to insult your intelligence...you're defending and praising them for it
it's mindblowing.
you think Zelda selling for $59.99 3 years after its release is going to somehow cause more games to come to the Switch?
the fuck lol
no, you're just getting ripped off
what you said right there is the crux of the whole argument
"Nintendo games never depreciate in value unless they are exceptionally bad"
One could extrapolate from that:
Most third party games and games for other systems do depreciate in value quickly, therefore they must all be exceptionally bad.
So now third party support needs to be on the level of the PS consoles. Nice goal post moving there!
Wouldn't you agree that PS consoles get BEST IN CLASS third party support? So why should a Nintendo console receive BEST IN CLASS third party support in order for us to see these discounts you are assuring us we'd see if only they had better third party support. I just had no idea that when you said better third party support you were comparing it 1:1 with the PS library! Jesus Christ!
How then do you explain why Microsoft games also see significant discounts when their third party support is not as good as Sony's? Refocus your argument, buddy
Nintendo's business model is completely different from the companies they are competing with and it's going to affect how they price their games (and when they decide to discount them). It's not about defending them, it's about accepting that this is reality. Nintendo generally only discounts games once they've saturated the market by selling a ton of copies; discounting those games can bring in new players or make legacy platforms a more appealing value prop overall (see: 3DS right now).
It's honestly the main reason I haven't brought a switch, it's not just the hardware that's too expensive but the games rarely go down in price, I pick up any other console and games that are a year or more old I'm looking at at least half price, Zelda, Mario, Kart etc are still near retail price new or used which is crazy to me, games over a year old I'm not going to be paying anywhere near £40 for. As much as I love the software output from Nintendo on the switch the really high prices pretty much means I'm not going to be buying one anytime soon.
Except their chosen business model allows them to create and sell hardware/software with a better profit margin from the jump
so at the end of the day, the only thing that's really causing their pricing is greed
I don't know, if people want to play BOTW instead of this hypothetical equivalent that is just as good as it but maybe slightly different 3rd-party game that is cheaper, they would probably still choose BOTW possibly because of the name, franchise, and marketing despite it being a $60 game for years to come. Note that's been awarded and advertised as GOTY from many outlets so it's labeled as a "must have game for your Switch for years to come". Maybe there will be a lot of people buying the cheaper but equally great game, but their will still be enough people to buy this Nintendo title that it would not encourage them to discount their games.
Just look at Pokemon and all of its competitors on the Nintendo handheld family.
Meh. I love Nintendo first party stuff, but they're no higher quality objectively than Sony or MS's best games or the best third party developers and all those go on sale more often.
Nintendo just has a more cornered market by dominating the kid/family niche and handheld gaming, along with having poor AAA third party support. Thus they can get away with it more as people buy their hardware for those games, vs Sony and MS having to compete with the AAA third parties and all their sales on their platforms.
I've been following the thread and haven't seen anyone defending it. It's just something we've accepted.
I'm curious though, does Apple get as much shit for their premium pricing?
Surely we've reached a point where people realize that if you want Nintendo games, you pay Nintendo prices.
If you don't want to pay Nintendo prices, there's several platforms and literally hundreds of games released every year that fit your spending behaviour.
If you don't want to pay Nintendo prices, there's several platforms and literally hundreds of games released every year that fit your spending behaviour.
It certainly holds for those of us who respect fun and game mechanics above all else. I still remember falling into The Last of Us hype as the 'game of the forever' only to actually play it and determine it was a slow boring game to actually play, then made a topic asking if it ever picks up and got berated because 'it's not meant to be FUN it's an EXPERIENCE'. The reality is, for those of us who grew up playing games in a skillful manner, we grew to appreciate games at their gameplay level first and foremost. This isn't just a Nintendo philosophy, but they are one of the only large publishers that focus on that as the priority.
The difference between myself and others though, I'm able to understand why others enjoy TLOU for what it is, and why it might be special to them, but the same people almost can never see why a game like Super Mario Odyssey is special. Hell, these sorts of people often go as far as to say Mario is always the same because all you do is save the princess, which totally ignores the entire ground up reworks the actual games themselves have been given for decades. This implies that for some reason they have chose games as their means to experience plot and value it more than anything else, a bit of a bizarre medium to choose for that, but hey.
I haven't played the new God of War yet because i'm absolutely unsure of what to expect, is it a fun game with a great atmosphere or will it be another slow walk boring game experience that i'm not particularly fond of? I've had to divorce myself from what many gamers now consider the most important thing, and look towards people who have like opinions more so then ever to determine if a game works for me. In that end, i'd rather pay 200 for a 3d Mario game than 10 dollars for Detroit, because I consider it entirely against my taste as a gamer. Since so many games have veered away from mechanics as the focus, it is becoming something I am willing to pay a premium for to continue having.
In the the past few years we've had many games (Horizon, Witcher 3, MHW, Uncharted 4, God of War etc) that are of far higher quality and craftsmanship.
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Lots of interesting commentary in here, appreciate the feedback and suggestions.
I guess as someone who hadn't owned a Ninty console since the N64, I was kinda surprised older games still kept their price so high. Usually if you wait a year or more before purchase, you can get that benefit of a wider selection of somewhat cheaper games to choose from - but that's obviously not quite the case with Nintendo. Will definitely go physical, and more than likely preowned to save some pennies.
*continues hunting for a cheap copy of Zelda.
I guess as someone who hadn't owned a Ninty console since the N64, I was kinda surprised older games still kept their price so high. Usually if you wait a year or more before purchase, you can get that benefit of a wider selection of somewhat cheaper games to choose from - but that's obviously not quite the case with Nintendo. Will definitely go physical, and more than likely preowned to save some pennies.
*continues hunting for a cheap copy of Zelda.
As it's stated multiple times, welcome to Nintendo consoles. The majority of first party games hold their value.
If anything, I've become conditioned to never buy any non-Nintendo console game at launch because I know the price will drop significantly in 3-6 months. I buy all the Nintendo games at launch, then after I clear the backlog a bit, pick up some forgotten Sony first party games for dirt cheap around Black Friday.
If anything, I've become conditioned to never buy any non-Nintendo console game at launch because I know the price will drop significantly in 3-6 months. I buy all the Nintendo games at launch, then after I clear the backlog a bit, pick up some forgotten Sony first party games for dirt cheap around Black Friday.
How can you love the software output on the Switch and at the same time think it's all overpriced and something you're not going to be subsequently able to enjoy until years after the fact? Isn't that a contradiction? Do you simply not think that the games are worth £40 to begin with? Because I paid £40 for most of them and yeah they're worth that IMO.
It sounds like you should be blaming the buying public. Why did they stop buying Horizon shortly after it launched? Sony (or retailers) caved and dropped the price to $10. Yet people are continuing to buy BotW (and other Nintendo games) in droves. People, STOP!!!
