I don't understand. Why toilet paper?

Darknight · Mar 14, 2020

metalgear89 said:
What I meant was you don't just use just you bare hand you use it alongside lots of water and you won't have that problem.

Which means you're still using your bare hand to interact with crap which is going to introduce an additional level of cleaning your hand compared to not physically touching it by using toilet paper, especially with kids. Again, pink eye being common among kids exists for a reason.

elenarie · Mar 14, 2020

apocat said:
I was at that exact same shop yesterday. It looks like they managed to find some household paper to try to pass off as toilet paper since then. Those shelves were completely empty yesterday!

On another note, my local grocery store is running out of all manner of things, and I couldn't help but notice that the candy supply is looking like it's getting depleted, which made me a bit confused.

Just was at Solna Centrum ICA. All beans and pasta stuff were sold out. :D

P-Bo · Mar 14, 2020

samoscratch said:
I've been pushing bidets all week it seems but it will improve your situation greatly.

I bought this one which is a full lid replacement

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TCN0NP8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

But there are much cheaper alternatives, although $150 is not too bad at all for what you get.

How difficult is self-installation? After what I saw today, serious thinking about picking one up.

metalgear89 · Mar 14, 2020

Darknight said:
Which means you're still using your bare hand to interact with crap which is going to introduce an additional level of cleaning your hand compared to not physically touching it by using toilet paper, especially with kids. Again, pink eye being common among kids exists for a reason.

If it requires additional cleaning then it requires it you teach your kids that. Of course younger kids are not going to always guaranteed to clean up properly, that's why you need to supervise and be responsible, supervision would be needed even if they used tp, the only difference is they would need to be a bit thorough.

This is a non issue for alot of cultures who do it, and has been for centuries.

swift-darius · Mar 14, 2020

astro said:
I have ulcerative colitis and have... similar issues. I promise you, 100%, this will make your life better:

1. Get a plastic bottle.
2. Fill it with water and keep it next to your loo.
3. After you poop, wash your bum with your hand and your bottle of water.
4. Use a small amount of loo roll to dry.
5. Thank me later.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07G9XW...olid=1AISUC634OZS6&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

been meaning to pick this up for hiking/camping, but it sounds like it might help you out too.

astro · Mar 14, 2020

swift-darius said:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07G9XW...olid=1AISUC634OZS6&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

been meaning to pick this up for hiking/camping, but it sounds like it might help you out too.

That's actually a cool little thing, thanks for sharing. :)

apocat · Mar 14, 2020

elenarie said:
All beans were sold out. :D

It's going to get awfully smelly in the homes of these people when they quarantine themselves off.

Themis · Mar 14, 2020

Soliloquy of a Dogge said:
I'm not surprised that Era, of all places, wouldn't know how to properly wash their hands after using them to clean their assholes.

Hello Mr. Dogge. Doggos don't have hands they have paws!

Darknight · Mar 14, 2020

metalgear89 said:
If it requires additional cleaning then it requires it you teach your kids that. Of course younger kids are not going to always guaranteed to clean up properly, that's why you need to supervise and be responsible, supervision would be needed even if they used tp, the only difference is they would need to be a bit thorough.

This is a non issue for alot of cultures who do it, and has been for centuries.

Teaching isn't the issue, it's the executing part that is and you're introducing an extra layer of risk by going this route. Just because you teach over and over again doesn't mean they're going to be reliable and consistently good at it. Again pink eye being common among kids is a thing and this is just one of the risks that potentially comes with it. This notion that it's a non issue when it comes to kids is just fantasy.

Soliloquy of a Dogge · Mar 14, 2020

Themis said:
Hello Mr. Dogge. Doggos don't have hands they have paws!

And also tongues.

Dogs > Humans when it comes to evolutionary toilet advantages.

Coyote Starrk · Mar 14, 2020

I feel you OP we went to the store today to get some paper towels and toilet paper and we barely were able to get paper towels. We had to settle for a buttload of wet wipes.

metalgear89 · Mar 14, 2020

Darknight said:
Teaching isn't the issue, it's the executing part that is and you're introducing an extra layer of risk by going this route. Just because you teach over and over again doesn't mean they're going to be reliable and consistently good at it. Again pink eye being common among kids is a thing and this is just one of the risks that potentially comes with it. This notion that it's a non issue when it comes to kids is just fantasy.

If you think this is pure fantasy then you are ignorant as fuck. How about you educate yourself on how other cultures work?

eso76 · Mar 14, 2020

Yeah, i have no idea.
It's not really a thing over here from what i've seen (Italy, of all places).

That stuff already comes in bulks that are supposed to last for *several* days anyway, how many packages do you need ? You'll run out of food way before running low on TP.

StrangerDanger · Mar 14, 2020

P-Bo said:
How difficult is self-installation? After what I saw today, serious thinking about picking one up.

It's easy. Might need to pick up just a supply or two at home depot (water line for example)

Yogi · Mar 14, 2020

exodus said:
Good shopping list. I would suggest mayo as well for the tuna or other canned meats. High in fat and long shelf life. Can be even kept unrefrigerated for a long time, assuming it's pasteurized mayo like Hellman's.

Good call will be adding it to the list, going again tomorrow hopefully for the last time for a while...

samoscratch · Mar 14, 2020

P-Bo said:
How difficult is self-installation? After what I saw today, serious thinking about picking one up.

Super easy, you just remove old lid, and click it into a plastic bit you screw in, then attach hose.
There's a video on amazon on the product page that goes over it as well.

The Albatross · Mar 14, 2020

I normally buy a shit load of toilet paper on Amazon because I have a baby and it's easier to stock up on tp and diapers etc.

OP I happened to get 96 rolls of shitty Amazon TP 2 weeks ago on my Amazon schedule. I mail you 6 rolls if you can't get tp anywhere

P-Bo · Mar 14, 2020

StrangerDanger said:
It's easy. Might need to pick up just a supply or two at home depot (water line for example)

samoscratch said:
Super easy, you just remove old lid, and click it into a plastic bit you screw in, then attach hose.
There's a video on amazon on the product page that goes over it as well.

Great to hear--thanks guys!

Even if this crazy situation blows over relatively soon, it still sounds like a great way to cut down on one cost.

StrangerDanger · Mar 14, 2020

P-Bo said:
Great to hear--thanks guys!

Even if this crazy situation blows over relatively soon, it still sounds like a great way to cut down on one cost.

Yea when i meant line, it's the hose that connects toilet pipe to water supply line. Usually older places have ones that are steel bent, whereas ones at store are flexible (link: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Homewer...raided-Stainless-Steel-7223-20-38-5/203082359)

Also, check to see if you have one line or two (cold/hot). Then purchase the bidet that either fits your 1 line or 2. Only disadvantage is that the 1 line is cold water, so sometimes it sucks because the water will be so damn cold against your ass.

But untwisting, and twisting new ones etc, whole thing should take 15-30mins tops. Depending how hard it will be to untwist if first time messing with it

Ensorcell · Mar 14, 2020

i cannot believe my local store HAD toilet paper on the shelf.

TheSpaceBetween · Mar 14, 2020

Shiba said:
Go in the shower get a bunch of soap on the hands and clean your ass.

I do this anyway half the time. Toilet paper alone doesn't clean your ass and it feels gross. Saves tons of money on TP too.

Morrigan · Mar 14, 2020

HStallion said:
If you want to find some toilet paper there is a bunch hidden by the apple tree in the clearing behind town.

cLOUDo said:

lol, this gif gonna get a lot of mileage

Chasex said:
The run on toilet paper starts making a bit more sense if I factor that people use 1 roll per person per week. This seems way too high.

Ever had a period?

Sanka · Mar 14, 2020

While there are alternatives to toilet paper don't flush them down. Tissues and kitchen rolls are good for wiping but don't dissolve like toilet paper does. And will lead to blockage. So just put them in a bin next to you.

Squirt · Mar 14, 2020

i haven't been to a grocery store or walmart in almost a week.. kinda scared to see what's not available. i don't want to horde, just want to get the essentials to last a week, but might grab some extra items if possible.. should be interesting. I'll report back later. I imagine it will be very similar to what everyone else is already experiencing.

SEBattleship · Mar 14, 2020

This says sold out for me on the Amazon listing page, but says it's in stock when you go to the product page. Bought a couple.

Angel Soft Toilet Paper, 36 Huge Rolls, 36 Rolls = 108 Regular Rolls, Bath Tissue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SNGLZPQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_nqtBEbRMWJEJQ

Paertan · Mar 14, 2020

elenarie said:
Just was at Solna Centrum ICA. All beans and pasta stuff were sold out. :D

I took a walk to ICA Maxi Solna this morning just to look at what was out. Pasta was all but gone. But larger store so more stock. Did not look at the beans. Though flour was almost out. And cabbage, cauliflower and other vegetables that last long. They had extra containers of potatoes.
Did not look at toilet papers actually. Maybe take a look tomorrow since they don´t get new deliveries until monday.

scottbeowulf · Mar 14, 2020

seki · Mar 14, 2020

I'm not quite sure what it is about toilet paper to be honest. But me specifically, I'm actually not surprised as it's been a conceit that I've been aware of for almost a decade. I'm not sure how much of the general populace is aware of Supernatural the TV show, but I've pretty much watched it from Season 1 through Season 12. One of the things that sticks out to me is an episode where one of the characters travels into the future where something like the apocalypse has taken place and demons and humans are fighting for control of the world.

In the future, one of the characters tells the time traveler to hoard toilet paper when he goes back to the past like it's gold:

It turns out, the guy telling him to hoard the toilet paper? He's God. Literally.

Anyway, the scene always struck me as something clever along the lines of "Oh, yeah, I've considered that I'd need food, water and medicine in an apocalypse, but toilet paper's pretty important now that I think about it."

This was the first place that I encountered the idea of TP in an apocalypse. Is it possible the idea originated here?

Darknight · Mar 14, 2020

metalgear89 said:
If you think this is pure fantasy then you are ignorant as fuck. How about you educate yourself on how other cultures work?

It's not being ignorant; it's knowing how this culture works and it just would not work. Plus just because other cultures do it, doesn't make it better or even a fit for a different culture. For example, do you have stats on the number of cases of pink eye among kids in those cultures and how it compares? If you're telling me that going from a protective sheet of paper to direct hands on contact will not result in more cases of contamination than already exist with the current culture, then I think you're talking about a fantasy. Next you'll tell me there's no need for protective gloves as long as you wash your hands properly and that the use of protective gloves doesn't make a difference.

Einchy · Mar 14, 2020

Until this thread, I had no idea people wiped their booties with their bare hands.

metalgear89 · Mar 15, 2020

Darknight said:
It's not being ignorant; it's knowing how this culture works and it just would not work. Plus just because other cultures do it, doesn't make it better or even a fit for a different culture. For example, do you have stats on the number of cases of pink eye among kids in those cultures and how it compares? If you're telling me that going from a protective sheet of paper to direct hands on contact will not result in more cases of contamination than already exist with the current culture, then I think you're talking about a fantasy. Next you'll tell me there's no need for protective gloves as long as you wash your hands properly and that the use of protective gloves doesn't make a difference.

You are one hell of an idiot. Do you understand that there are people already who do this and they have adapted by being more thorough when cleaning there hands? It is not pure fantasy what the fuck are you on about?

grmltr · Mar 15, 2020

#poophand

Ashhong · Mar 15, 2020

Scuffed said:
Ya I don't get it. I read a post earlier of someone saying they use 1 roll a week lol. Like I guess you would if you live alone and shit at work but if you are quarantined or you now have to work from home you need tp and 1 roll a week ain't gonna cut it.

Wait are you saying you go through more than 1 roll a week?

Budi · Mar 15, 2020

big_z · Mar 15, 2020

Ashhong said:
Wait are you saying you go through more than 1 roll a week?

depends how often you poop i would assume. if you have a poor diet and poop multiple times a day that single roll aint going to cut it.

Edge · Mar 15, 2020

Why toilet paper? That at least kinda makes sense, you don't want to run out of it and it's not getting bad, my question after going to the store yesterday was:

Why f'n bread? That starts to mold after 1+ week, lol.

Samurai_Heart · Mar 15, 2020

You could freeze the bread though

Neo C. · Mar 15, 2020

Edge said:
Why toilet paper? That at least kinda makes sense, you don't want to run out of it and it's not getting bad, my question after going to the store yesterday was:

Why f'n bread? That starts to mold after 1+ week, lol.

I don't stock up bread, but people who do can freeze it. Also pre-baked bread can hold up to 1 month.

Officer Big Mac · Mar 15, 2020

Kthulhu said:
My guess is only a minority of people buying all this TP are panic buying. The rest are scalpers.

If you're stuck on the pot without any tp can you same day delivery this hotness

Officer Big Mac · Mar 15, 2020

btkadams said:
Does Kleenex clog toilets/pipes/sewers like those baby wipes or something? Why are the people who can't find toilet paper not just buying boxes of tissues instead? I see it in stock everywhere.

Yes. Dont throw Kleenex in the crapper.

Ragnar · Mar 15, 2020

elenarie said:
Just was at Solna Centrum ICA. All beans and pasta stuff were sold out. :D

Paertan said:
I took a walk to ICA Maxi Solna this morning just to look at what was out. Pasta was all but gone. But larger store so more stock. Did not look at the beans. Though flour was almost out. And cabbage, cauliflower and other vegetables that last long. They had extra containers of potatoes.

I live in the countryside but commute to Lund at the the moment. Obviously the stores out here here are smaller, but I haven't seen any signs of stocks being depleted, nor people hoarding. Everyone's very chill about it, which makes me feel right at home. Anecdotally, it seems as though hoarding and stock depletion is postitively correlated to proximity to a larger urban area, from what I've experienced and discussed with my friends.

badboy78660 · Mar 15, 2020

Edge said:
Why toilet paper? That at least kinda makes sense, you don't want to run out of it and it's not getting bad, my question after going to the store yesterday was:

Why f'n bread? That starts to mold after 1+ week, lol.

Maybe it's the folks that didn't get enough toilet paper? When shit gets dire, they'll get to wiping with loaves. 😂

score01 · Mar 15, 2020

Y'all need to start investing in these bad boys. Minimal TP usage, can get away with none if in a bind.

T002 Tyrant · Mar 15, 2020

I don't get it, in an emergency use spare towels and put them on a hot wash afterwards.

Quantum Leap · Mar 15, 2020

score01 said:
Y'all need to start investing in these bad boys. Minimal TP usage, can get away with none if in a bind.

Fuck that. My hand is not going in there.

CrazyIvan1978 · Mar 15, 2020

Edge said:
Why toilet paper? That at least kinda makes sense, you don't want to run out of it and it's not getting bad, my question after going to the store yesterday was:

Why f'n bread? That starts to mold after 1+ week, lol.

You can freeze it, my man.

Edge · Mar 15, 2020

CrazyIvan1978 said:
You can freeze it, my man.

To be honest, I never actually froze bread. 🤔
But I don't know if the same kind of people who hoard toilet paper right now are actually smart enough to do that.
Most people probably have a small freezer inside the fridge and not a big freezer box and I would use that space for other food stuff. 😅

SpotAnime · Mar 15, 2020

I'm the same boat, as my area is in a high-risk zone with forced closures. ANY item we risk running out of, that means we have to go out to the store, increasing our risk of exposure to the virus. The longer we can hunker down at home and practice social distancing the better, as long as others do the same.

Tobor · Mar 15, 2020

Edge said:
Why toilet paper? That at least kinda makes sense, you don't want to run out of it and it's not getting bad, my question after going to the store yesterday was:

Why f'n bread? That starts to mold after 1+ week, lol.

Fresh meat is sold out around here. No chicken, beef, or pork. All cleaned out.

People are afraid the grocery stores will be closed and are trying to get out in front of it.

Deleted member 49611 · Mar 15, 2020

we have plenty of toilet paper. the shelves are wiped out (except kitchen roll ). there was some pasta but most of it is gone.

if it comes to it then i'll just need to go in the shower and hose myself down lol.

I don't understand. Why toilet paper?

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