I hate to say it, but I'm finding NieR Automata aggressively mediocre...
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It's very strange game design. If your idea of interesting is for people to play through your game three times to see why it's such a great game, then something is fundamentally flawed with your design principles.
Maybe dont spend almost twice as much time playing a game that should have been done hours ago.
Precisely. The game should be enjoyable from the jump and people should replay it because they WANT TO, rather than because you didn't actually give it any satisfying content or a meaningful conclusion the first time through.
Nier Automata is kinda boring LTTP
This game was on my radar for so long and I finally bought it after a good sale on steam. I have selected very carefully which games I buy because of the economic problems present in Brazil. This disappointment has even greater weight because I had saved money for this game. Well, 6 hours later...
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We had this thread like a month ago I think and yeah, I didn't think it was as great as people were making it out to be.
Going through Route B was such a chore and straight up a waste of time IMO. Payoff at the end was OK. Honestly though it was way too anime for me in terms of writing and voice acting; and the character designs were pretty cringy.
Going through Route B was such a chore and straight up a waste of time IMO. Payoff at the end was OK. Honestly though it was way too anime for me in terms of writing and voice acting; and the character designs were pretty cringy.
The part where it makes you play through the same content as 9S is an absolute joke. Yoko Taro is straight trolling us by making us do that shit
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Elaborate? That's all I've ever heard: that the height of the game is stuff that happens in/after Route C.
We had this thread days ago.
Nier Automata is kinda boring LTTP
This game was on my radar for so long and I finally bought it after a good sale on steam. I have selected very carefully which games I buy because of the economic problems present in Brazil. This disappointment has even greater weight because I had saved money for this game. Well, 6 hours later...
www.resetera.com
The character design was so off-putting to me for the longest time until I caved and gave it a shot. Ended up really liking it!
I really liked the gameplay loop though, so didn't mind playing through the repetitive parts.
But if you don't find the universe intriguing, the game is not for you. And that's okay - I won't ever end up liking an Assassin's Creed, no matter how good it is for example.
I really liked the gameplay loop though, so didn't mind playing through the repetitive parts.
But if you don't find the universe intriguing, the game is not for you. And that's okay - I won't ever end up liking an Assassin's Creed, no matter how good it is for example.
Agreed. It's an absolutely absurd requirement that people place on the game.
Yeah, after Route A and during Route B my friend kept messaging me troll messages about how average the game was. When he got the "true" ending he basically told everyone that I was right and that it was one of the best games in the last generation.
I think it hits on some philosophical points that will carry more weight to some then others, has an incredible sound track, has combat that is just okay, but that will bother some people more than others and in general has a vibe that's not for everyone. It also does a lot of cool tricks that you don't see done in gaming much or at all, so people's mileage will vary with that as well.
Can definitely see some people not understanding the hype, but when it hits, it HITS.
Yup.Nier Automata is kinda boring LTTP
This game was on my radar for so long and I finally bought it after a good sale on steam. I have selected very carefully which games I buy because of the economic problems present in Brazil. This disappointment has even greater weight because I had saved money for this game. Well, 6 hours later...
Bi monthly 'post here if you disliked automata' gathering thread
Hmm, that's not really what's going on though, and you're not replaying the game three times. It's about recontextualizing things you knew in earlier routes with information gotten from later ones.
Route C is completely new stuff. Route B retreads A from a different point of view, so there's lots of new stuff sprinkled throughout.
Route C also wont magically make you like the games and characters if you weren't at least somewhat into it before imo. It provides a lot of nuance to the characters that players may have missed through the first couple of routes, but I assume you need some kind of attachment for it to matter to you.
Kind of similar to Replicant, where I don't feel like the recontextualizing given in route B will make you care if you didn't care in route A.
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Route C and beyond is the high point of the game but if you're not liking it up to that point it's not gonna change your mind.
Had to wait 6 months before I could muster the endurance to slog through Route B to get to Route C, but I saw all of the core endings and thought it was solid overall. It definitely didn't strike me as this life altering experience or one of the greatest video game stories ever told or anything.
Same. I find anime games are almost always overhyped though, and are generally very bloated with a lot of repetition and grind. I think if you're not into anime it's very likely to do next to nothing for you. The soundtrack is definitely the standout positive.
Honestly, just watch the moments on YouTube. I avoided doing so for a very long time hoping that I would eventually love this game at a future date and have the transcendent moment, but I'm very happy with my decision to just spoil the whole thing and uninstall the game.
I finished it... earlier this year or late last year, idk all time blends together now. I wasn't impressed with it on my base PS4, but I gave it another shot on my XboneX on Gamepass and finally finished it, it definitely has some meh moments but the highs are really high. Route B I did not care much for bug slogged through it. Route C was good but only a few things from it for me were super memorable.
Overall good game, and I can see why it's not everyone's cup of tea. One day I'll play Replicant.
Overall good game, and I can see why it's not everyone's cup of tea. One day I'll play Replicant.
I understand the sentiment, and I think in many cases that's true with a bunch of stuff, TV shows, anime, games etc, however somethings require A LOT of context and investment.
I've come across TV shows and movies I didn't care for until about the halfway point and then I was in love. From my personal experience, the best things in life, including entertainment, typically take investment. You can find a lot of people in any field get salty when something requires investment, but that's just life. 🤷🏽♂️
So many people have FOMO about stuff, if it's not for you, it's not for you and that's OKAY. Glad you got something from the YouTube videos, but playing through the game absolutely makes a difference. I can't even watch the credit scene play out in the "true ending" without getting teary eyed and reading experiences online, that's true for a lot of people that actually "played" through it. Don't allow your lack of willingness to invest, downplay the experience of others.
For some people the game really hits hard.
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I'm not saying "repeating content" isn't a thing you can't disapprove of, but I think a lot of those reads on the NieR games' repeating of content ignores what it means to the story. Not just in a "the story is good so shut up" way but that the story needed to be meted out this way to get its point across, especially in regards to NieR Replicant's engaging in this.
Which, again, fair. It's a hard sell and it's something that's only going to work for you if you care enough about the game that going through old stuff with a newly equipped comb is a good time. That's me, and I'm a lunatic, ergo I could do this shit all day.
Route B is the one where you go through a truncated Route A as 9S.
Which, again, fair. It's a hard sell and it's something that's only going to work for you if you care enough about the game that going through old stuff with a newly equipped comb is a good time. That's me, and I'm a lunatic, ergo I could do this shit all day.
NieR Automata's Route C is all new content.
Route B is the one where you go through a truncated Route A as 9S.
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If you think the characters and dialogue are "meh" then your eyes and ears are literally painted on. A lot of the side quests have great writing. How anyone could not find the quests such as the resistance ship trader to be anything other than profound and thought provoking is baffling. There's a reason why it's sitting at 91% on metacritic and it most certainly isn't because it's "aggressively mediocre".
It is a good game, but the first one and now with the Replicant Remastered version is MUCH MUCH MUCH better.
I understand why people might not like it because of deliberate design decisions that fuck with the player, but it gets annoying how EVERY one of these threads just ends up with people saying that the game is utter garbage and an example of bad game design.
25 hours on Route A?
I believe an average play is around 8 hours for that.
I think the game is distracting you with the open-world presentation. I don't think it plays well as an open-world game until Route C, if ever.
It sounds like this isn't your kind of game, and that's fine.
I believe an average play is around 8 hours for that.
I think the game is distracting you with the open-world presentation. I don't think it plays well as an open-world game until Route C, if ever.
It sounds like this isn't your kind of game, and that's fine.
Replicant got even bigger issues with having to repeat content to see the full ending.
I know its a Yoko Taro quirk, but frankly im over it. And I love both Nier games.
For one thing, what on earth took 25 hours? When I started Route B, it was 7-9 hours.
One of my favorite games ever. I want to hug whoever it was on the forums that recommended it to me.
lol yeah that must be it. The time investment. Come on, Nier isn't a special case. I've invested time into hundreds of other pieces of entertainment that kept me somewhat interested along the way.
After hearing all the praise I was left baffled, what's good about this game except the music ? For me it's even worse than mediocre and downright terrible at times. I finished every ending (because people kept saying it was going to be better...) and I'm never playing a game from Yoko Taro ever again. It was painfully boring and uninspired.
And I went in open minded since it tics all the boxes for me.
And I went in open minded since it tics all the boxes for me.
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To everyone commenting on the 25hrs thing, that's just the timestamp in the game. I've left the game idle several times and it may have counted that time. I've also done more open world exploration than I probably should have. Most of it really wasn't necessary in retrospect.
For real people in here talking about NieR: Automata's B route when Replicant's C and E routes are a faar more egregious repeated content issue.
Though, it's likely different sets of people.
Maybe it'll become my kinda game the fifth or sixth time I hear the "not for you" argument. That's when it'll open up haha who knows
I really don't get this opinion having played the original later. I guess it was a "you had to be there" thing.
Nier Automata is not an open world game. I know that Square stupidly branded it as such to make it sound more modern and impressive, but it's about as "open world" as a pre-BOTW 3D Zelda or a PS2 JRPG with a big overworld map, and that's exactly the kind of world design it's going for.
If you don't like it, then fair enough. But I was kinda underwhelmed by route A (it was good, but kinda generic story-wise) and ended up loving the rest.
People shit on route B, but at least for me the "you're playing the same part of the game twice" feel quickly disappeared because of just how much more is happening from 9S' perspective and how a lot of things that were front and center in route A and pushed to the side in favor of more interesting stuff.
People shit on route B, but at least for me the "you're playing the same part of the game twice" feel quickly disappeared because of just how much more is happening from 9S' perspective and how a lot of things that were front and center in route A and pushed to the side in favor of more interesting stuff.
Game is mediocre.
No matter how much I've enjoyed the soundtrack, its game design is deeply flawed. Boring and repetitive content.
No matter how much I've enjoyed the soundtrack, its game design is deeply flawed. Boring and repetitive content.
I thought the same thing, but I decided not to hold any ill will toward it. Yoko Taro was always incredible modest about what this game was. It was the fans that overhyped it it to me.
yep, every one of these threads has people talking about how they're 30 hours in before Route B and I get so confused. I was trying to do everything because I was enjoying the game and I was in Route B way before that.
It's not really an argument tho….
In my experience, if I don't like something others like, I'm fine with that and don't need them to justify anything. LOL
I think the stuff that makes Nier so "powerful," is a bunch of stuff that is basically "YMMV," for example, the world was fascinating to me, the music was amazing to me, the combat was perfectly fine for me, the animations were god like, the movement options were great, the way every component of the game was tied to something in the world, such as the chips that managed your UI and saving only at the terminals, the 4th wall breaking moments, the chip tune versions for every song, the character designs, etc,
This stuff tied together in a super neat bow, like holy shit, but if non of the stuff means much to you personally, then yeah, doesn't work. Lol
I just think it's funny that some people want to like what everyone else does, "for the culture," but if they don't, they have to down play the experience of others. Automata was a god damn amazing game that I legit think about probably AT LEAST once a week since I completed it like 2-3 years ago?
i basically determine the value of games by how often I think about them post-completion, and Automata is like #1. 😅🤷🏽♂️
Haters gonna hate, especially on popular and critically acclaimed things, I get that, but LOL at the same time because something requires you to spend time with it like it's a bad thing.