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I made a Metal Playlist for newcomers.
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Y tho? Are we conflating dirty vs. clean vocals with approachability?
I hear you, but the idea in my mind is that you are just trying to whet someone's appetite and get them to expand their own search in whichever direction they fancy. It can be overwhelming if you ask someone for somewhere to get started on a genre and you get a massive list with wildly diverging sub-genres, or if you get started right off the bat with something that's too overwhelmingly hardcore and think "gah, maybe this isn't for me." I don't think e.g. Holy Diver, Number of the Beast, Hellion/Electric Eye, Painkiller, Master of Puppets, Sweating Bullets, etc is going to scare anybody away but I do think that a selection like that (and more of course, this is just off the top of my head) would be effective at getting someone interested in hearing more. Hit songs are hit songs for a reason, and I think they're a good way to bring someone with zero experience into the genre.
One thing that very few newcomers want to hear is an explanation of the 500 subgenres and why this one is real and that one is not real and only posers listen to this one and only true fans listen to this one etc etc. Not saying you're going down that path, but it happens a lot with Metal in particular.
Bands like Cannibal Corpse or Napalm Death can actually be good litmus tests for some newcomers. Like, if someone had been listening to metal for a little bit and asked to hear some stuff that really pushes the envelope just to see if they'd like it I would suggest some sort of grindcore or crusted death metal.
You can cherry-pick so many bands to represent those years without doubling up on the same band.
Appreciate the Overkill though, OP.
Need to replace Power Trip with Vektor
Its less about defensive, but it's imho been a big problem with the genre where they are quick to kick out a band finding new refinements within the paradigms of 'heavy' that they should be rewarding em for pushing things further, on top of praising literal dinosaurs as if they are relevant when their new shit is mediocre.
It's why everyone is like, 'Here we go again', and a brawl (but a fun one!) broke out in the post.
It's a problem with rock music in general where fans don't want acts to color outside of the lines but particularly evident in metal because they've got a more dedicated fanbase than any other rock sub-genre except punk which suffers from similar problems. People kind of hold this distain for rap metal (and rightfully so in many circumstances) but I would make an argument it was a cry for help; one cannot live on recycled Pantera riffs forever.
Funny is in 2021 I would argue it's the most viable place to find rock music today but it's current run is built off the back of experimental bands of the last few decades leading to the popularity of genres like blackgaze which tbh, often feels more indie rock than \m/.
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I really wasn't intending to gatekeep what metal is at all (as I said, I personally don't like the core classic metal sounds unless is mixed in with other elements), and was looking at it more as some of the more alternative metal bands on this list would actually have had the opposite affect on someone like me and drawn me away from the metal parts of their sound and into the other aspects of heavier rock.
So, for me, it would have had the opposite effect.
Giving it a bit more thought I don't actually know if there would be a way to avoid this. Metal absolutey is more diverse than the pure classic sounds, but the bands that cross over also contain other genres and sounds that could detract from them.
That was my original train of thought anyway, it really wasn't intending to be some pedantic gatekeeping elitism or anything.
I'll see myself out, lol.
So, for me, it would have had the opposite effect.
Giving it a bit more thought I don't actually know if there would be a way to avoid this. Metal absolutey is more diverse than the pure classic sounds, but the bands that cross over also contain other genres and sounds that could detract from them.
That was my original train of thought anyway, it really wasn't intending to be some pedantic gatekeeping elitism or anything.
I'll see myself out, lol.
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Gonna make an attempt at an alternate playlist for every year 1991 onwards (sorry OP), trying to vary genres and without repeating artists:
Dismember - In Death's Sleep (1991)
Samael - With the Gleam of the Torches (1992)
Varathron - Unholy Funeral (1993)
Rotting Christ - The Fifth Illusion (1994)
Moonspell - Alma Mater (1995)
Therion - To Mega Therion (1996)
Summoning - Khazad Dúm (1997)
Blind Guardian - Mirror Mirror (1998)
Skyclad - Vintage Whine (1999)
Desaster - Tyrants of the Netherworld (2000)
Moonsorrow - Kylän päässä (2001)
Behemoth - Zos Kïa Cvltvs (2002)
DoomSword - Woden's Reign (2003)
Saxon - Witchfinder General (2004)
Bolt Thrower - Granite Wall (2005)
Melechesh - Rebirth of the Nemesis (2006)
Type O Negative - Halloween in Heaven (2007)
Hollenthon - On the Wings of a Dove (2008)
Absu - Amy (2009)
Cauchemar - Le voile d'Isis (2010)
Argus Boldly Stride the Doomed (2011)
Natur - Head of Death (2012)
Craven Idol - Golgotha Wounds (2013)
Grave Digger - Hell Funeral (2014)
Visigoth - Steel and Silver (2015)
Sumerlands - The Seventh Seal (2016)
Malokarpatan - V okresném rybníku hastrman už po stáročá vyčína (2017)
Untamed Land - In Darkness Awakened (2018)
Smoulder - Ilian of Garathorm (2019)
Havukruunu - Uinuos syömein sota (2020)
Demiser - Deathstrike (2021)
My picks for 2010 and 2014 are half-hearted admittedly, I struggle to remember notable albums by non-mentioned bands for these years. Edit: found better picks than before!
I'll try to post a list for 1970-1990 later. That should be a fun challenge. Nearly impossible to repeat bands for the 1970's lol
Btw, if you check my list, I have a broad range of genres, from traditional to power, gothic, folk, doom, thrash, etc. to (fairly accessible/entry-level) death and black metal. Not all "blast beats for the whole fucking song".
Dismember - In Death's Sleep (1991)
Samael - With the Gleam of the Torches (1992)
Varathron - Unholy Funeral (1993)
Rotting Christ - The Fifth Illusion (1994)
Moonspell - Alma Mater (1995)
Therion - To Mega Therion (1996)
Summoning - Khazad Dúm (1997)
Blind Guardian - Mirror Mirror (1998)
Skyclad - Vintage Whine (1999)
Desaster - Tyrants of the Netherworld (2000)
Moonsorrow - Kylän päässä (2001)
Behemoth - Zos Kïa Cvltvs (2002)
DoomSword - Woden's Reign (2003)
Saxon - Witchfinder General (2004)
Bolt Thrower - Granite Wall (2005)
Melechesh - Rebirth of the Nemesis (2006)
Type O Negative - Halloween in Heaven (2007)
Hollenthon - On the Wings of a Dove (2008)
Absu - Amy (2009)
Cauchemar - Le voile d'Isis (2010)
Argus Boldly Stride the Doomed (2011)
Natur - Head of Death (2012)
Craven Idol - Golgotha Wounds (2013)
Grave Digger - Hell Funeral (2014)
Visigoth - Steel and Silver (2015)
Sumerlands - The Seventh Seal (2016)
Malokarpatan - V okresném rybníku hastrman už po stáročá vyčína (2017)
Untamed Land - In Darkness Awakened (2018)
Smoulder - Ilian of Garathorm (2019)
Havukruunu - Uinuos syömein sota (2020)
Demiser - Deathstrike (2021)
I'll try to post a list for 1970-1990 later. That should be a fun challenge. Nearly impossible to repeat bands for the 1970's lol
Nahhhh
If you don't want feedback on your list, why post it for others to discuss?
Btw, if you check my list, I have a broad range of genres, from traditional to power, gothic, folk, doom, thrash, etc. to (fairly accessible/entry-level) death and black metal. Not all "blast beats for the whole fucking song".
You're fine, don't worry.
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Weird pick for Priest song ngl, sorry my favourite band so I can't resist nitpicking that one choice. Something like these would be a far more great sampling of their best qualities:
Tyrant, The Hell Patrol, The Sentinel, Heavy Metal, Victim of Changes.
Your choice of Maiden was inspired, though - love to see it.
Tyrant, The Hell Patrol, The Sentinel, Heavy Metal, Victim of Changes.
Your choice of Maiden was inspired, though - love to see it.
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None of the following?
Nightwish
Epica
Within Temptation
Apocalyptica
Cradle of Filth
As well as many of the above listed by others.
This reads like a metal list by someone who hasn't heard of metal past 1995.
None of the above, even Cradle, are difficult to listen to and pretty much all were included in an influential list of metal to teach in music education a few years ago (Whose name escapes me but it was doing the rounds on UK radio).
Nightwish
Epica
Within Temptation
Apocalyptica
Cradle of Filth
As well as many of the above listed by others.
This reads like a metal list by someone who hasn't heard of metal past 1995.
None of the above, even Cradle, are difficult to listen to and pretty much all were included in an influential list of metal to teach in music education a few years ago (Whose name escapes me but it was doing the rounds on UK radio).
Now that's a challenge for my Apple Music account to make a playlist!
Me looking at my Satan - Life Sentence vinyl and wondering why it was not included...
Good picks.
I'd add Dark Tranquillity too. They were the band that made me realize I could get into death metal after all.
I'm an outlier in that I like their albums more since they started incorporating keyboards and electronic sounds.
Or Alcest, which is another band that feels like it shouldn't be so easy to listen to.
Because I picked Craven Idol for 2013 instead ;_; you can't be mad at me for that surely?
I've actually edited my list for better picks. Bolt Thrower got moved to 2005 for a track from Those Once Loyal (as it is one of the best albums of that entire decade, and certainly of that year), and for 1992 I picked a track from Samael's Blood Ritual.
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Why though? I love Opeth and Mastodon as much as the next guy, and agree they should be on the list, but why are they more valid as metal acts than those nu metal bands?
Love it or hate it, nu metal was a huge part of metal history and massively popular during its time. Those bands deserve their place on a playlist like this.
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Gotta hit newbies with that "Hear Me" and "Why?" one two punch for maximum effect.
I was actually being a little facetious there. Personal taste is what it is.
I also am a fan of nu-meral over classic metal. You should read my posts on this for clarity.
I'd add in early Sonata Arctica, Between the Buried and Me, early In Flames, Opeth, and Dark Tranquility as well.
Sonata Arctica - Ecliptica
Between the Buried and Me - Colors
In Flames - Colony
Opeth - Blackwater Park
Dark Tranquility - Damage Done
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Is this really a "PLAYlist"? I view a play list as being something I can hit "Play" on and listen to. This seems like more just a "list", and honestly...not a great one either. TBF, I get that a lot of metal post 1990 is pretty whack, but you really drive it home with this particular list of songs.
If it makes you feel any better, most of my friends who listen to metal would make fun of the "elitists" in this thread. There's always a bigger asshole out there judging you.
There's wayyyy too much nu-metal on that list. It's not about gatekeeping, I can't stand gatekeeping. I'd just want to build a more diverse list. There's plenty of more accessible metal for newcomers that is not nu-metal from that time period. And hey, I'm a guy that was in High School in the early 2000's so I am by no means averse to nu-metal. I'd re-work everything from around 1997-2002.
Better yet, lets go with some starter songs:
Sonata Arctica - Full Moon
Between The Buried And Me - Ants of the Sky
In Flames - Suburban Me
Opeth - Blackwater Park
Sonata Arctica - Full Moon
Between The Buried And Me - Ants of the Sky
In Flames - Suburban Me
Opeth - Blackwater Park
You appear unaware of the following sub-genres: Power Metal (both the US and European variants), Melodic Metal, Folk Metal, Symphonic Metal, Gothic Metal, Progressive Metal, Doom Metal, Melodic Death Metal (which I reckon is in fact not as unfriendly to newcomers as one might think at first glance), the whole Hair Metal scene of the 80s and their (mostly swedish) spawns of the 2000s, when Metal was as mainstream as it would ever be.
Right? An incredibly influential band where each and every album is fantastic and unique. Symbolic is more 'approachable' than the majority of albums in this thread
FINALLY, an album I would specifically NOT recommend to non-metalheads lmao
(I love Gorguts)