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I really think Ben Affleck was a Good Batman.
- Thread starter LastNac
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He deserved a good solo movie but oh well, if it worked out then we probably wouldn't have gotten Pattison I guess (watching the Batman today!)
You mean that he is in it? That shit has been officially reported every where with him already talking about it in interviews and everything. Don't you even see his batsuit laying on the ground in the teaser?
Pretty good in BvS.
Awful in Justice League.
Pretty good in Zack Snyder's Justice League.
I still don't think he's top tier (and I think Pattinson did much better with the "I'm just an angry jaded person" take on Batman/Bruce), but he definitely wasn't given a lot to work with.
Awful in Justice League.
Pretty good in Zack Snyder's Justice League.
I still don't think he's top tier (and I think Pattinson did much better with the "I'm just an angry jaded person" take on Batman/Bruce), but he definitely wasn't given a lot to work with.
He was good as Wayne/Batman, sure. Too bad everything else around those projects were complete ass
He did great as the older, more bitter Batman that we saw in the early parts of Frank Miller's DKR. I know people are loving the new movie, but I really wish we would have got at least one solo Batfleck film that was focused solely on him.
Everything is a spoiler to some people.
Everything is a spoiler to some people.
Hated him at first for irrational reasons, after Bale's excellent performance it felt like going back. However he did grow on me and yeah I can agree overall (Outside of the scripts, and even they grew on me slightly, only slightly) he was a good call. Because of this my optimism for Pattison and a new take looking at how it's been received is fairly high.
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a good murderous batman
i remember almost nothing about his bruce other than him waking up in his sad foggy bachelor pad next to a naked woman that might very well have been dead for all we know since she didn't move or wake up or get a name or anything
i remember almost nothing about his bruce other than him waking up in his sad foggy bachelor pad next to a naked woman that might very well have been dead for all we know since she didn't move or wake up or get a name or anything
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You're right that batfleck is not alone in receiving poor characterization, though I don't know that any director has justified it quite like zack
I like affleck well enough and think he did a decent job with pretty bad material
He is probably in the mid-low tier for Batman. He has a bit more depth in Snyder's Justice League. His problem is he just feels like a CGI Steppenwolf character most of the time he is doing anything.
Great looking suit though
Great looking suit though
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Yeah it was distracting, which took away a lot from his performance in JL imo. He looks alot better now so it's good that he will get one more crack at the role
Anyone who plays a superhero is at the mercy of their script and choices outside of their control in terms of costume/vehicle design.
So for me I generally all the actors who have played Batman have had good performances. If there is an issue it's on the production itself.
See Garfield and his films.
So for me I generally all the actors who have played Batman have had good performances. If there is an issue it's on the production itself.
See Garfield and his films.
Those are all the things I loved about Affleck's Batman. Especially the voice modulator. I was hoping they keep that in Pattinson's.
He was. I would have really loved to see more of the optimistic Batman we got at the end of Snyder's JL. It's a shame about all that.
Completely agreed. It makes so much more sense today than just lowering your voice. It can also make him scarier.
I remember liking his performance in BvS at the time but in hindsight, I think I was just excited to have a quasi-comic accurate Batman on screen for the first time since...God, I guess West.
Now that I can look back a little more clearly, especially after ZSJL, I really do think he was miscast. Affleck's natural energy is just way too laid back and chill for the part. Justice League (both versions) tries to correct for this by making his Batman more upbeat but it just comes across as awkward and out of character.
The only time Affleck feels at home in the part to me is when he's talking to Alfred in the ruins of Wayne Manor. The scene allows Affleck to drop the bravado and forced intensity, instead playing Bruce as a man who has just become sad and hopeless. That kinda worked and I wish the actual film had been built around that idea.
Sadly, for me, Affleck is like Clooney at this point. Interesting casting, and I can see how it might have worked with different direction, but the end result just feels awkward and misjudged.
Now that I can look back a little more clearly, especially after ZSJL, I really do think he was miscast. Affleck's natural energy is just way too laid back and chill for the part. Justice League (both versions) tries to correct for this by making his Batman more upbeat but it just comes across as awkward and out of character.
The only time Affleck feels at home in the part to me is when he's talking to Alfred in the ruins of Wayne Manor. The scene allows Affleck to drop the bravado and forced intensity, instead playing Bruce as a man who has just become sad and hopeless. That kinda worked and I wish the actual film had been built around that idea.
Sadly, for me, Affleck is like Clooney at this point. Interesting casting, and I can see how it might have worked with different direction, but the end result just feels awkward and misjudged.
When he was announced and a lot of people hated the casting I always thought he'd do well. I thought he was good in BvS but Batman was terrible in JL. I wish he had a solo movie because I'm sure we'd finally see some of the more out there villains in his series of films.
battfleck was great, but yeh everything else failed him, the true crime was we never got to see his batman film, he's a much more talented director than actor that i think we would've seen something special but oh well.
and yeh the suit and his hulking physique is pretty much what you'd expect from bats, and honestly he's the only film batman that had that legit intimidating presence.
and yeh the suit and his hulking physique is pretty much what you'd expect from bats, and honestly he's the only film batman that had that legit intimidating presence.
Meh.
He had a good scene with Diana in BvS. That's about all I rate him in.
In that regard, he's about on par with Clooney, where they play a decent Bruce Wayne but their Batman is pretty forgettable, so they are tied for the worst movie Batmen for me. Everywhere Affleck's Batman shined, I'd credit Snyder, the VFX team, and stunt team for more than Affleck.
I thought his Batman voice was almost as bad as Bale's, his line delivery didn't do any favors to the dialog he was given, and he was mediocre and generic at best. He didn't really bring a personality to the character more than a version of stoic that felt stilted for Affleck rather than reserved, introspective, calculated, etc.
I swear that it seems like people like his casting because he has a square jaw and a more bulky build and that's it. Maybe that's all he was cast for, his look. I think you can see the difference in how actors like Keaton, Kilmer, and Bale did the stoicism of Batman because they acted in their eyes and their body language. Even just in the trailers, it seems like Pattinson understands that aspect of the brooding, stoic Batman that I just don't think Affleck portrayed well.
Ironically, as bad as the Daredevil movie was, he pulled off a Matt Murdock that was way more natural than whatever was going on with his Batman.
He had a good scene with Diana in BvS. That's about all I rate him in.
In that regard, he's about on par with Clooney, where they play a decent Bruce Wayne but their Batman is pretty forgettable, so they are tied for the worst movie Batmen for me. Everywhere Affleck's Batman shined, I'd credit Snyder, the VFX team, and stunt team for more than Affleck.
I thought his Batman voice was almost as bad as Bale's, his line delivery didn't do any favors to the dialog he was given, and he was mediocre and generic at best. He didn't really bring a personality to the character more than a version of stoic that felt stilted for Affleck rather than reserved, introspective, calculated, etc.
I swear that it seems like people like his casting because he has a square jaw and a more bulky build and that's it. Maybe that's all he was cast for, his look. I think you can see the difference in how actors like Keaton, Kilmer, and Bale did the stoicism of Batman because they acted in their eyes and their body language. Even just in the trailers, it seems like Pattinson understands that aspect of the brooding, stoic Batman that I just don't think Affleck portrayed well.
Ironically, as bad as the Daredevil movie was, he pulled off a Matt Murdock that was way more natural than whatever was going on with his Batman.