I still cant believe how high quality and amazing FF7 Remake is
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I get difference of opinions and I can maybe see a defense for most your comments - but the soundtrack is phenomenal, through and through. Possibly one of the best JRPG soundtracks, ever. Also, there are SO many tracks, too. Quality + quantity.
I'd played the OG FF7 on PS4 just in time before I played the remake as a refresher and I ended up appreciating the remake a lot and thought it was a true labor of love.
The battle system is *chef's kiss*
Intergrade was an awesome release technically and I remember DF found no issues with it to complain about.
The battle system is *chef's kiss*
Intergrade was an awesome release technically and I remember DF found no issues with it to complain about.
perhaps i am being unfair and only remembering the background music. walking around and dungeons. that was the stuff i found to just fade into the background instead of the strong moods the original conveyed. and perhaps my experience with the game influenced my overall opinion and i'm being entirely unfair to the rest of the soundtrack
The original is in my top 3 games ever. The remake started off really strong but kinda fell apart once fights got to the point where you would have more options in the original and from there on our out just felt too diluted and the story completely fell apart.
I'll probably still check out the next instalment as I believe they said they want each one to be a different style gameplay wise so hopefully it goes a bit more in depth/less action based.
I'll probably still check out the next instalment as I believe they said they want each one to be a different style gameplay wise so hopefully it goes a bit more in depth/less action based.
It's funny...before the game came out, I was expecting an immense backlash, given that the game is actually just an adaptation of basically one section of FF7 and not really a remake of the full game. (I wasn't the only one with those concerns either, to be fair.)
Of course, then the game came out, and it turned out "Remake" didn't actually mean what most people initially thought...
Of course, then the game came out, and it turned out "Remake" didn't actually mean what most people initially thought...
As someone like many others who holds FF7 in very high regard especially as it was basically foundational to my youth (I had just turned 13 when it came out), I had a smile on my face the entire damn time I played this game.
It was a real joy getting to experience FF7 almost exactly how I envisioned a game like that looking and playing "in 20 years," when we were wondering what games would be like in a couple decades. Some parts of it are like the pre-rendered cutscenes come to life.
It was a real joy getting to experience FF7 almost exactly how I envisioned a game like that looking and playing "in 20 years," when we were wondering what games would be like in a couple decades. Some parts of it are like the pre-rendered cutscenes come to life.
It's great.
That said it does feel somewhat uneven with some areas clearly having a greater attention to detail others lack, but it's not something that actually bothered me.
As soon as I finished my first playthrough on normal I immediately started another on hard, and that was when the combat really shined for me.
Yup lol
Music in this game is ridiculously good.
That said it does feel somewhat uneven with some areas clearly having a greater attention to detail others lack, but it's not something that actually bothered me.
As soon as I finished my first playthrough on normal I immediately started another on hard, and that was when the combat really shined for me.
Yup lol
Music in this game is ridiculously good.
It has its issues, but it's a 10/10 experience for me. Combat is great, the main character models are insanely perfect, the cutscenes are so well directed, the localization-adaptation of the original script feels sharp, the OST feels like the composers are absolutely in love with Uematsu. It simply exudes a confidence and competence that Square-Enix games haven't had in a while (XIV excluded, though that game has to make some concessions in presentation because it's an MMO).
One thing I find fun about the game is that you can completely tell which moments in the game the dev team was like "okay, we need to fucking nail this", because the game soars in those moments. The Bombing Mission, The Airbuster, Wall Market, meeting The Turks, facing off with Sephiroth at the end, etc.
Oh, and there's a drippy-goey-grungy-slimy-contrasted-saturated something to the art style that feels so true to the 90s aesthetic of the original. I adore the look.
One thing I find fun about the game is that you can completely tell which moments in the game the dev team was like "okay, we need to fucking nail this", because the game soars in those moments. The Bombing Mission, The Airbuster, Wall Market, meeting The Turks, facing off with Sephiroth at the end, etc.
Oh, and there's a drippy-goey-grungy-slimy-contrasted-saturated something to the art style that feels so true to the 90s aesthetic of the original. I adore the look.
I agree, and the next one in particular that's set outside of Midgar if it's anything like the quality of FF7R will be a hell of a feat.
(also I guess they're both FF7R…)
It's still so uneven, at best, certainly in the early game (I couldn't stick with it). I have a bunch of clips I took of this game because the actual product quality was so far off from the discussion that I was confused how folks could overlook the sparse environments and weird instances of broken animation, the mediocre renderer, etc. I mean this whole sequence was baffling:
Quality is all over the place.
And the fact the only way they figured how to expand Midgar was to add sewers, samey underground facilities, secret labs, and make the character fall through the ground multiple times literally just to waste your time so you can get back up there, is very not impressive to me. Makes it really annoying to replay.
And the fact the only way they figured how to expand Midgar was to add sewers, samey underground facilities, secret labs, and make the character fall through the ground multiple times literally just to waste your time so you can get back up there, is very not impressive to me. Makes it really annoying to replay.
The amount of boss battles and their spectacular presentation is pretty insane. I'm so happy they nailed the combat and the characters on the first chapter, extremely hyped for Rebirth.
Besides the combat, the biggest surprise was the writing, while some story bits can be questionable, they absolutely nailed the characters, showing the fans that they actually understand the soul of the original (new Barret should've been toned down a little, his VA is so good, but I don't think it was the right decision to keep him like the original localized version), the game is so funny and the interactions between the cast was a joy to watch.
Besides the combat, the biggest surprise was the writing, while some story bits can be questionable, they absolutely nailed the characters, showing the fans that they actually understand the soul of the original (new Barret should've been toned down a little, his VA is so good, but I don't think it was the right decision to keep him like the original localized version), the game is so funny and the interactions between the cast was a joy to watch.
Gonna piggyback off this post and post my list of must-haves and good optional mods:
[Essential]
-Visual-
Barrett -No Sunglasses-
Sector 7 Upscale
Upscaled textures - Sector 7 Environments
This mod takes all the environment textures below 4K (4096x4096) in Sector 7 Slums, and replaces them with AI upscaled versions.
www.nexusmods.com
NPCs Fix - restore PS4 better-looking NPC textures
NPCs Fix - restore PS4 better looking npc textures
Replace NPCs head and skin texture with their better looking version from PS4.
www.nexusmods.com
Intershade
-Audio-
Wall Market Dynamic Rescore
Wall Market background music dynamic re-score
Replaces each of Wall Market's 3 background music tracks with re-scored versions of 'The Oppressed' to perfectly fit the scene.
www.nexusmods.com
Bland Sewer Music Replacement With Original FFVII Uematsu Tracks (IMO pick the Jazz one)
Bland Sewer Music Replacement With Original FFVII Uematsu Tracks
Replaces the bland area and battle music in the sewers with the remake versions of the original much better music, 'Lurking in the Darkness' written by original composer Nobuo Uematsu that played in t
www.nexusmods.com
Less Obnoxious Grunting in Cutscenes
Less Grunting in Cutscenes
Edits English voice over files to moderately reduce the overly numerous and unnatural sounding grunts in cinematics.
www.nexusmods.com
Jukebox Sound ON Very Short Distance
Jukebox Sound ON Very Short Distance
The distance of all the extra music sounds is considerably reduced from the camera.
www.nexusmods.com
[Classic Vibes]
-Visual-
Shinra Building Original COLORS
Shinra Building Original COLORS
This mod TURNS the shinra building back to its original 1997 color scheme. The President ordered the renovation!
www.nexusmods.com
LoreFriendly Cloud's SOLDIER 1st Class
LoreFriendly Cloud's SOLDIER 1st Class
The Mod is very basic, it is just a reskin of Cloud's outfit, and its own name says it all: A reskin that makes logical sense with PJ Cloud Strife and his CGI and menus in Final Fantasy VII Remake.
www.nexusmods.com
Original Tifa Hair and Eyes
Original Tifa Hair and Eyes
Tifa's hair and eye colors are changed to more closely resemble her design in the original Final Fantasy VII, both in the game, and in concept art.
www.nexusmods.com
President Shinra Original COLORS
President Original COLORS
This mod TURNS President back to his original 1997 color scheme.
www.nexusmods.com
Rufus - In a Suit
Rufus in a Suit
This mod swaps out Rufus' in-game outfit for a suit. The suit does have jacket physics. The mod includes two options: a white suit and a black suit.
www.nexusmods.com
Reno - No Purple Lips
Ifrit - Original COLORS
Ifrit Original COLORS
This mod TURNS Ifrit back to its original 1997 color scheme.
www.nexusmods.com
Shiva - Original COLORS
Shiva Original COLORS
This mod TURNS Shiva back to its original 1997 color scheme.
www.nexusmods.com
-Audio-
PS1 Menu Sounds
PS1 Menu Sounds
This mod will replace the FF7R menu sounds with the classic Final Fantasy VII PlayStation 1 sounds. This covers the scrolling, selecting, canceling and ATB gauge sounds. If there are any other menu so
www.nexusmods.com
Anxious Heart After Reactor 1 - Chapter 2 Fix
Anxious Heart After Reactor 1 - Chapter 2 Fix
Replaces the misplaced Shinra theme at the very beginning of chapter 2 with a remake version of Anxious Heart as it was in the original game and as suits the mood better. Saw this requested somewhere
www.nexusmods.com
Mako Reactor re-score (OG Ensemble) featuring bells and synths
Mako Reactor re-score (OG Ensemble) featuring bells and synths
Returns bells and synths instrumentation to Mako Reactor field music for Chapters 1 & 5. Does not affect battle music. Remake-style modern production.
www.nexusmods.com
Main theme replaced with 'On that day 5 years ago' after getting off the train to head to 7th heaven
Main theme replaced with On that day 5 years ago getting off train to head to 7th heaven
Replaces Main theme to 'On that day 5 years ago' as it was played in this section of the game in the original.
www.nexusmods.com
Flowers Blooming In The Church (orchestra) Sector 5 Church re-score
Flowers Blooming In The Church (orchestra) Sector 5 Church re-score
Replaces the Church interior background music with 'Flowers Blooming in the Church,' performed by an orchestral ensemble. Does not affect the rooftops level.
www.nexusmods.com
Glad you liked it. Never clicked for me, i loved the opening and the first boss fight but once it started within the next areas, characters that didn't exist any stuff… just felt so artificially stretched so I just stopped playing 😔
I started playing this today. And while the production values are so good...it feels really at odds with the voice acting and script. You have these incredible looking characters saying absolute nonsense animating in the most hammed up cheesy way and frankly I just don't like it.
I hope one day we'll get a final fantasy game that manages to nail it all. But maybe it's just a Japanese thing.
I hope one day we'll get a final fantasy game that manages to nail it all. But maybe it's just a Japanese thing.
My first ever RPG was FF7 (and legend of the dragoon at the same time) and when I played FF7R I had the same exact 10 year old excitement I haven't had in so long. It was seriously so awesome. Cried, laughed, pumped with Tifa and her gym song. I know some people have issues with whatever, but it is simply one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had. Closely to first time playing MGS2 after being hyped for it's release back in the day.
Watching Cloud in the beginning and the song start blasting was just as good as watching Snake jump from the bridge and have his stealth camo explode in lightning.
Watching Cloud in the beginning and the song start blasting was just as good as watching Snake jump from the bridge and have his stealth camo explode in lightning.
The fact that the next game needs to cover a lot of the original story and locations (as we now know it's a trilogy) inspires confidence in this regard imho. There doesn't seem to be much room for this kind of paddling anymore.
Yeah, one would assume the pacing should feel better as a result. I'm just curious how much content will inevitably get cut or change drastically from the original, as there's still sooo much to cover in 2 more games.
I had mixed feelings about the game itself, but it does look phenomenal and has a ton of great asset work, character models, animations, etc..
The visuals in the game are really inconsistent. There are these immaculate character models walking around PS3 cardboard environments at times. The cutscenes at least look great.
I went back to it with Intergrade trying to meet the game on its own terms (and not what I wanted/expected from FFVII) but yeah, still found it to be a pretty mediocre game. The battle system is fun, but outside of that I found it a chore to complete.
I went back to it with Intergrade trying to meet the game on its own terms (and not what I wanted/expected from FFVII) but yeah, still found it to be a pretty mediocre game. The battle system is fun, but outside of that I found it a chore to complete.
To the extent that way too many games (and shows, and movies) have the pretense of dead seriousness despite being undeniably goofy, I appreciate that Final Fantasy (usually) doesn't take itself that seriously. The overt campiness is part of the reason I love the franchise, especially because there are absolutely hard-hitting and dramatic portions of the storytelling that they really nail when they want to.
This is mostly from the nomura involved games (7,8, 10,13,15) . They have a strong influence from Shonen Anime, and can get pretty corny in regards to the dialogue , but I am okay with that. There are FF games that are more grounded in regards to dialogue and more focused on the politics of the world, though there are still elements of that corniness here and there (12, 14 and most likely 16) . It does feel like there should be a final fantasy for everyone.
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The presentation of the game is extremely good. The characters translated much better to modern designs than I expected they would (though there are still some questionable choices with regard to Tifa and Scarlet). It doesn't look ridiculous, which I really thought it would. I'm a bit disappointed that they gave away so much of the plot through cutscenes and whatever, but the number of people who played it who don't already know the story has got to be in the single digits percentage-wise, so it's not too big a deal.
I just really wish I found it more fun to play as the combat was a clunky mess for me.
I just really wish I found it more fun to play as the combat was a clunky mess for me.
Neither can I OP.
But I don't think I mean it the way you do.
Don't want to be a downer in what's a very celebratory thread but yeah, I couldn't disagree more. I'll just say the OST is ace and leave it at that.
But I don't think I mean it the way you do.
Don't want to be a downer in what's a very celebratory thread but yeah, I couldn't disagree more. I'll just say the OST is ace and leave it at that.
This was my first Final Fantasy game and I absolutely loved every minute of it. I'm very excited for the second and third parts. :)
I was in the same boat, but I would say at least on normal difficulty the challenge ramps up pretty early on and effectively using the ATB system becomes a constant thing throughout the game. The demo takes place during the opening minutes of the game, and just spamming normal attacks lays waste to everything in the reactor save the Guard Scorpion battle. As the game goes on when you get in the meat of it, you're basically just doing normal attacks to build meter, but your real damage comes from effectively using the ATB meter.There's also a good bit of depth between your characters unique mechanics, the pressure/stagger mechanic, ATB, and your materia/build. I mean, you can technically setup hotkeys and play it mostly as an action game but I didn't do that. It very much caters to the turn-based preference player imo. I went into it disappointed about the action-based combat news during development, and found that they came up with a pretty incredible battle system that really splits the difference and keeps things fun without losing any of the strategic depth of turn-based systems. It's pretty damn good imo.
Im glad that you were able to enjoy it as a turn based fan. Ive watched a bunch of YT videos and it just doesnt seem like my kinda game. I'll wait to see how the second turns out. Maybe way down the road I may play this game.
