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ICC issues arrest warrants for Vladimir Putin, Maria Alekseyevna Lvova-Belova

hyouko

hyouko

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Oct 27, 2017
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Surprised I'm not seeing a thread on this already:


View: https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1636747504418193408

In practice I doubt this means that much - they are unlikely to actually ever get extradited or arrested - but it limits their travel options.

Edit: CNN source:

www.cnn.com

ICC issues arrest warrant for Putin and Russian official tied to alleged deportation of Ukrainian children

Poland will transfer four of its MiG-29 fighter jets to Ukraine in the coming days, the Polish president said, becoming the first NATO member to fulfill Kyiv's repeated requests for aircraft to counter Russian attacks. Follow here for live updates.
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Lord Moriarty007

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Holy shit, I know he will never be tried until one of the generals did a coup d'etat and arrested him. I guess he will never be able to travel to other countries.
 
BUNTING1243

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It's pretty funny how powerless the Hauge is for western super powers. The US has plans drawn up to just invade if the ICC ever arrests a US leader
 
Annubis

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Infinity Times Two said:
Now all we have to do is catfish him into flying westward?
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ajoshi

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people already aren't reading the article so they can speedrun their drone comic level takes but this is specifically for deporting tens of thousands of Ukrainian children from murdered/surviving families and resettling them with Russian nationalist freaks. not the worst thing that ever happened in the human experience but so disgusting even within the context of the present war that it did warrant at least some sort of callout, however unenforcable. take the case of that US marine or whatever that stole an Afghan baby from surviving relatives while the case sits in limbo in court, now multiply by 15-20,000x as an act institutionally provided by the state with the full, videotaped celebration of their president (and the woman named in the warrant)
 
SatelliteOfLove

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The "symbolic" part of this is that a post-Putin world is being put into action.

The post part will most likely be post defenestration/shooting, but you know.

Mivey said:
Can we cool the "both-sides" thing, at least until the West starts openly genocidal wars, with the direct aim of annexing a country and destroying its ethnic identity.
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Its been a hard 13 months for a few.
 
Jibberhack

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Mivey said:
Can we cool the "both-sides" thing, at least until the West starts openly genocidal wars, with the direct aim of annexing a country and destroying its ethnic identity.
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The West only starts genocidal wars to prop up their puppets and steal resources from the global South. We absolutely should not hold our tongues in this regard, especially when it's our tax dollars fueling the bloodshed.

Also, good! Putin shouldn't feel safe anywhere in the world. Not even in Russia
 
Foffy

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Given Putin is already not listening to worldwide condemnations, what will this do? He's already limited by travel, does this just largely domesticate him to Russia?
 
EagleClaw

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It is important to note that Putin is a war criminal because of the war crime of unlawful deportation of population (children).
It isn't because of a war against the "west".
A war of aggression is actually not punishable at the ICC.

www.icc-cpi.int

Situation in Ukraine: ICC judges issue arrest warrants against Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin and Maria Alekseyevna Lvova-Belova

Today, 17 March 2023, Pre-Trial Chamber II of the International Criminal Court (“ICC” or “the Court”) issued warrants of arrest for two individuals in the context of the situation in Ukraine: Mr Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin and Ms Maria Alekseyevna Lvova-Belova. Mr Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin...
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Statement by Prosecutor Karim A. A. Khan KC
 
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astroturfing

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Hollywood Duo said:
He basically can never deal with the West again
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yeah this, and its a great thing.

fun anecdote: i remember almost running into him and his entourage in 2011 (iirc) when he was visiting Turku in Finland, he was giving some lame "friendship" speech or something next to some fancy old boats by the seaside, where i was bicycling. my regular route was cut-off because of them snd i was like wtf is this shit, why did someone block this tiny little sidestreet, so i took another street and turned a corner and then noticed him and his security detall etc, almost right in front of me, our city did a shitty job protecting him lol, anyone could have thrown stuff or something. and i had ZERO idea he was even visiting, or would ever visit our city. you could say i was pretty shocked and confused.

im glad i wont see him again heh.
 
9wilds

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Hollywood Duo said:
He basically can never deal with the West again
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This isn't correct at all. 123 countries have signed the treaty establishing the ICC. However, the US, despite being a central force in its creation, didn't sign.

More importantly treaties aren't binding unless they are enforced by another. No one will start a war if a country refuses to arrest Putin.

So this changes nothing for Putin. If he was already welcome, he still is welcome. If he wasn't, he wasn't visiting anyway.
 
Bengraven

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"Hey Vlad, this is Gabe. Would you like to see Half-life, 3 (minutes before you're arrested…)."
 
Cana

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This is great news.

traditionally the ICC has only really been used against African despots which has lead to accusations of the global north using it as a tool of colonization or something along the lines of that. iirc the ICC was also used in the aftermath of the Bosnian crisis so they have gone against Eastern Europe before.

I am not aware of anyone from the West or Asia being tried under the ICC.
 
Bedlam

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Of course he will not get extradited but it's a strong and important signal that the West is done for good with Putler and any version of Russia that he plays a role in.

And it might make the watercooler talk in the Kremlin and some oligarch mansions a bit more spicy.
 
Cudpug

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Hope this doesn't escalate tensions at a time he's shaking hands with Xi / China.
 
KastuśKalinoŭski

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Cudpug said:
Hope this doesn't escalate tensions at a time he's shaking hands with Xi / China.
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danm999

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Bedlam said:
Of course he will not get extradited but it's a strong and important signal that the West is done for good with Putler and any version of Russia that he plays a role in.

And it might make the watercooler talk in the Kremlin and some oligarch mansions a bit more spicy.
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He'll get tried and convicted in absentia.

B-Dubs said:
He still got arrested and put on trial.
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It would be nice but I don't even see that much happening to him.
 
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hyouko

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Rynam said:
Technically its just with the countries in Green on this map. For example he could still travel to the US just fine without them being obligated to extradite him to the hague.

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It's probably Europe being almost completely blocked that stings the most for Putin and his oligarch friends here. They have all those properties in London, right?
 
Pand

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Good.

I really wish the US weren't such massive bloody hypocrites about the ICC, the whole "we'll invade you if you dare hold us accountable" shtick marks you as spineless mustache-twirling villians. Not inaccurate, but very unfortunate.
 
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