[IGN] Arkane Austin Was Working on a Big Redfall Update for May Before Microsoft Ditched the Game and Closed the Studio
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Man, wound meet salt. I'm so sorry for these people.
That lack of commitment on a corporate level is infuriating and creatively ruinous. Particularly when you're the biggest fucking company in the world.
That lack of commitment on a corporate level is infuriating and creatively ruinous. Particularly when you're the biggest fucking company in the world.
Simply Pathetic I can't even imagine how those workers feel right now knowing they were so close to such a huge milestone. Like what harm could be done waiting a couple more weeks?
There is no short term any more when big budget games take 4 years to make or a thousand people to get it the door on time.
It's all ridiculous and sad. It makes Nintendo's snail pace internal growth make some sense as maddening as it is.
This redfall patch is curious to me. How few people were working on it that they couldn't get an offline patch out the door in 18 months alongside the 60fps one? It feels like the DLC was never being worked on and they made the decision to have to announce it was all dead because they knew this was coming. Bethesda must have gotten the order to cut x amount of staff along with everyone else at MS a year ago
Great! You're getting it! We're talking about current Microsoft here!! The same Microsoft myopically focused on short-term gains at the cost of everything else. A Fallout 76 tier disaster (or a SoT, or MCC for that matter) in the current day would never be given any space to grow and come into its own which was the point I was making in the first place! We're seeing it right now with the game in question in the thread you're posting in!!! Read!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Talk about adding insult to injury. Put a development studio on a project that they didn't even want to make in the first place, drive away a whole bunch of talent in the process, release it in a state where it's critically and commercially panned, and then shutter the studio right when they're on the verge of providing a crucial update.
I honestly have lost hope in MS. I really want Fable to be great, but it wouldn't surprise me if we see another round of cancellations like they've had every gen.
I have been with them every gen, day 1, but they just don't have the games and moves like this kill them for me. Arkane is a top 3 studio for me. Redfall sucked and it was a dud, but I didn't expect them to go through this.
I have been with them every gen, day 1, but they just don't have the games and moves like this kill them for me. Arkane is a top 3 studio for me. Redfall sucked and it was a dud, but I didn't expect them to go through this.
"Preservation is important to us and we're putting together a team" Microsoft can go fuck themselves. It was in its final month of development for Christ's sake. The steam depots were active nearly every day since November.
I was and still remain a firm believer in that Redfall was a single update away from being perfectly playable. If that update would have included the characters that I was entitled to as a Bite Edition owner then all the better.
I mean, yea you have to cut your losses at some point. That some point probably shouldn't be literally weeks before potentially making good on both DLC content they sold to people ahead of time, and before an update that would let everyone that paid their money for the game to continue to play it offline. This isn't really an unavoidable situation. Nobody's saying they needed to be granted A Realm Reborn type resources here.
Honestly the key context being ignored is the relative levels of failure of the something like Redfall (and recently Suicide Squad) compared to the likes of ESO, MCC, Fallout 76 and Sea of Thieves. The games that were given the chance to redeem themselves were because they held enough of a playerbase that it was believed that they could be resuscitated. Nothing was bringing Redfall's audience back... but that still doesn't mean they're justified in killing it off at this time in this way. What's more damning is that in Xbox's case they're a 1st party, and so the same call is comparatively worse than for a 3rd party publisher.
Does Halo Infinite not count in this equation? Or was that still not current Microsoft because it happened 3 years ago?
I mean Xbox has basically already started to sunset Halo Infinite if you've been paying attention to its updates. It doesn't even get seasonal updates anymore.
i feel like they keep it around because it would be fucking embarrassing for them to shelve it, at least without a new halo announced and on the way
Lmao wow. Didn't even let them finish the highly requested update that would future proof the game. Phil really sticking to his word on making it right after a horrid release. What an asshole.
I'm of two minds here:
1) I feel for those who have lost their jobs, and it's awful to lose all those studios
2) Any time/money spent on Redfall feels like a GIGANTIC waste
1) I feel for those who have lost their jobs, and it's awful to lose all those studios
2) Any time/money spent on Redfall feels like a GIGANTIC waste
While this isn't the Halo thread, it basically is being sunsetted. They won't outright say that just because it's Halo but you're going to see more of a Halo 5 approach to it. Where it just focuses on Forge content in the playlists and maybe some lighter updates here and there.
The DLC was planned for Halloween, not May, per the article. But I agree with the general point that an Offline mode should've happened.
for real, this is what the one guy was talking about with The Crew
at least make it offline so people who bought the game can still have access to it when you eventually decide to drop support
A company "worth " 3 trillion USD closing companies? Sucks for all the studios closed and all the potential wasted. :(
I mean....the game came out a year ago and one of the big wants before the game even released was a offline mode.
Is it unreasonable to think that the big wigs didn't even know before just shitcanning the game and studio...? Something tells me NO.
im sure they knew it still had support teams working on stuff, they prob didnt know the specifics
i imagine they got bulletpoints from bethesda management
"Save your work and get the fuck out." - Matt Booty & Phil Spencer
I am in no way a Nintendo fan, but I think that's one aspect in which I admire them; they acknowledge & value the talent they have under them.
I am so glad I got a refund for redfall after five minutes of playing it. But I would be so mad at the unreleased characters. And MS is never going to make good on that in any fashion. They know people will just give up on caring. They should extend refunds but there's no accountability.
"We're all about preservation!"
Cancels offline patch for online only game.
Yep, checks out!
When will people learn that all the pr speak from MS is just that, pr speak. They don't really care.
If they did they wouldn't do what they just did and remember they made the last Forza online only too.
Cancels offline patch for online only game.
Yep, checks out!
When will people learn that all the pr speak from MS is just that, pr speak. They don't really care.
If they did they wouldn't do what they just did and remember they made the last Forza online only too.
Making a online only game playable offline in the opposite of wasted time.
I'm one of the rare ones that liked Redfall, but offline play wasn't the issue. The horrible optimization was foremost an issue, especially at launch. I went back a few times to check out the updates but gave up.
I think they had an opportunity to make the game great but they almost completely silent for months at a time. So I stopped waiting and gave up.
I think they had an opportunity to make the game great but they almost completely silent for months at a time. So I stopped waiting and gave up.
I had no about that. Wow. What a fucking horrible fumble to sell, in my opinion. That's such a devastating corporate pivot.
Ah fair enough. Yea, the general point is that it wasn't a case of and endless vague target. They had a concrete target that they could have reached before shutting the whole thing down, especially given they had publicly pledged and sold some of that commitment to the playerbase.
Right now that seems like a big aspect really benefiting Japanese production as a whole in the gaming space
The timing of all this makes absolutely no sense to me. Why not let them finish the work? You're a three-fucking-trillion dollar company.
Making the original release work lol. On top of it being the mess it is now, it released in the worst state. First they had to fix it and THE then make the dlc/offline mode, but I'm sure it was a skeleton crew after the failure it came out as.