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[IGN France] Yes, Redfall was originally planned for PS5
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I guess the the thing is....where is the line drawn between never promised vs taking away/removing...
That's a very thin line IMO.
Good to see the developer be so candid about it so we can put the whole debate as to whether a PlayStation version was planned to bed.
They've been transparent about saying that games that already exist on a system will not be removed. The Doom games, Skyrim, the Fallouts. They literally never said anything about future non-service games. And they shouldn't have to. No one ethically believes they should be forced to share their future games.
No one thought they meant every game would be multiplatform except those jumping through hoops.
Absolutely shocked that Microsoft purchased a publisher and decided to make their games first party.
My mind is blown.
A much better story would have been to find out what happened to Final Fantasy 7 Remake for Xbox.
My mind is blown.
A much better story would have been to find out what happened to Final Fantasy 7 Remake for Xbox.
Some people think they're owed every game based solely upon the corporation they choose to love.
I think Sony would have had most of those games locked for a year of exclusivity if not for the buyout.
Stupid argument. Both are releasing on Xbox. Deathloop is already out on Xbox.
They were SUPER fuzzy with PR in the beginning.
"Case by case basis"
"Not done to take away games from Playstation"
"Continue to honor contractual agreements"
It's a bad look, no matter how pro-competition anyone claims, this is actively taking games away from a userbase that would have otherwise gotten to play it.
Hell even now Phil's PR is leaving room to intepreation for future franchises like Elder Scrolls. Where he said Starfied is a new IP, and there's no established userbase on PlayStation. Well there sure as hell is for Elder Scrolls lol.
What are you talking about, it was clearly stated that both were PS5 one year timed exclusives. I would much rather wait 1 year to play a game than not play it at all on either platform.
Well, with the ABK acquisition they're commiting to iron clad promises for COD at least.
...but people are kidding themselves if they don't think that MS wants to make the unannounced Blizzard survival game exclusive to Xbox and PC.
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People didn't even know this game existed during the acquisition, some just want a "gotcha" based solely on not being able to understand what they meant by saying "we'll not remove existing games from PS".
but were sony exclusive for a year. i would be surprised if before sony paid there wasn't an xbox version of both games in dev
Not to go off on a tangent but I am totally fine with timed exclusives these days. Too much to play anyways
I wonder if Hi-Fi Rush was also ever in talks but Sony went for the bigger project from Tango instead
I think its a pretty obvious line. Has the game been announced for a platform or not? Seems pretty cut and dry. Ghostwire and Deathloop were announced to be coming to multiple platforms, timed exclusive to PS5. Redfall and Starfield were not announced for any platforms at the time of the acquisition.
that would have been the case, ofc. Timed exclusivity doesn't mean they don't work on the port, it just means it gets launched later. The work would have already been finished for the most part aside from QA.
"iron clad" will turn into MS exclusive within a few years. They'll find some loophole don't worry.
No shit any hope for a PS5 version went away.
How much longer are people going to keep saying they took it from them?
Company looking for buyer. Someone buys. "They took my games" is absurd. They're very clear about games that already existed wouldn't stop getting support.
That's capitalism that's just business
They didn't take anything from anyone
How much longer are people going to keep saying they took it from them?
Company looking for buyer. Someone buys. "They took my games" is absurd. They're very clear about games that already existed wouldn't stop getting support.
That's capitalism that's just business
This isn't undercutting anything, as:
- Microsoft mentioned case-by-case basis from the beginning
- Redfall isn't being taken away from PlayStation as it was never fully developed and released for the console and is also a new IP
- When the FTC lied about Microsoft tricking the EU regarding Bethesda exclusivity, the EU immediately debunked and denied that and said that never happened; console concerns were then dropped and the EU is now focused solely on cloud concerns regarding the merger
Chalk this up to the common sense department, with only console warring as the end result.
Edit: beaten badly
Obviously you'd never get an answer to that, but the likely reason is that Bethesda wasn't interested. From what we know Redfall was originally going to be more of a service title, which generally benefit more from being on multiple platforms than predominantly single player games like Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo.
Literally every one of those statements is clear and true though.
"Case by case" - yup, different games have been handled differently, some exclusive some not.
"Not done to take games away" - yup, if they were doing this to take games away surely they'd delist Skyrim and stuff? That'd be a pretty good console war blow if that was their plan, obviously it's not.
"Continue to honor contractual agreements" - do you have info on contracts they didn't honor? Deathloop and Ghostwire still came out exclusive on PS5.
Thank you for this post.
I think some ppl are being real selective about the contractual part.
Oh well.
If this game was already in active development for PS5 is the million dollar question.
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