At first I thought it was the guy who played Joker in the Gotham TV series, but I could get enough of a look to see that they seem to be incorporating Joker's look from the Arkham Asylum games.
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IGN: The Batman director reveals identity of unnamed character + deleted scene with him (SPOILERS)
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Scene was totally fine. Would honestly be cool with Joker having a similar role in these movies as Cillian Murphy's Scarecrow in the Nolan trilogy; just a guy showing up to cause some trouble but isn't the main villain
Reeves described his look being Veidt-like so I'll give it a chance, but Keoghan's voice and laugh were pretty weak.
I knew Barry Keoghan was in this, then didn't see him in the movie and totally forgot about it and when I saw him in the credits I was like "who tf was he??". I think he'd be a good Joker, he's always playing a creepy little weirdo.
Also thought the scene was fine. It's a bit of a groan because it's the kinda shit they have to put in these movies but whatever. They're both good actors and I don't mind a little tease.
Also thought the scene was fine. It's a bit of a groan because it's the kinda shit they have to put in these movies but whatever. They're both good actors and I don't mind a little tease.
As I said before, it's a mix of Jerome and Dane Dehaan's Green Goblin from ASM2 imo.
Ive scoured the internet this entire morning and not even the fan sites have any good manips based on the scene in the film of him. Seriously?
Ive been two times watching this in the cinema and I cant stop thinking about the interesting design 🤘
Ive been two times watching this in the cinema and I cant stop thinking about the interesting design 🤘
His face looked pretty disfigured. I wonder if it's going to take inspiration from Scott Snyder's joker
(Ripped off face stapled back onto his head)
depending on which Joker origin you want to go with a disfigured face can make sense. I mean hell even Ledger's Joker was disfigured.
Design-wise, he looked kinda like Arkham games' Joker:
Excited to have a Joker that will likely be a major presence in multiple movies. People who hated his inclusion are weird af lol. Being negative/contrarian is not a personality trait.
Excited to have a Joker that will likely be a major presence in multiple movies. People who hated his inclusion are weird af lol. Being negative/contrarian is not a personality trait.
Design-wise, he looked kinda like Arkham games' Joker:
Excited to have a Joker that will likely be a major presence in multiple movies. People who hated his inclusion are weird af lol. Being negative/contrarian is not a personality trait.
I also don't really get the hate for his inclusion, since it's been almost 15 years since almost 15 years since we've seen Bats and Joker go head-to-head on the big screen.
Of course I'd love to see lesser used villains (Clayface, Pyg, Ventriloquist) get a time to shine, and I'm sure we will, but having those two butt heads in the Reeves Batverse, is actually something I'd love to see.
I believe Scott Snyder had a special thanks credit after the film along with many other Batman alum
I mean, The Riddler flooding Gotham feels pretty ripped out of Zero Year
I'm not sure how anyone could come away with this. It's quite minor world building.
That coupled with the Moores Arkham Asylum design imo
Would look really cool in live action
Imagine thinking WB would do a Batman reboot without setting up a potential sequel featuring Joker.
I haven't seen the film itself yet, but I already figured this would happen. With everything I have heard about how Reeveshas handled Riddler, I'm curious how he will tackle Joker. Can't be worse than Mr. Damaged.
I haven't seen the film itself yet, but I already figured this would happen. With everything I have heard about how Reeveshas handled Riddler, I'm curious how he will tackle Joker. Can't be worse than Mr. Damaged.
Hmm having a Hannibal character like that (as many people have said) would be kinda neat.
But would they go the Hannibal tv show route? :)
The fact that this movie jumps right into an ongoing saga and doesn't set up any origins was fantastically done. I kept waiting for the Batman origin reprisal and it never came and it was great. It tells you all you need to know organically.
But would they go the Hannibal tv show route? :)
The fact that this movie jumps right into an ongoing saga and doesn't set up any origins was fantastically done. I kept waiting for the Batman origin reprisal and it never came and it was great. It tells you all you need to know organically.
About the deleted scene:
Matt Reeves Explains ‘The Batman’ Ending: Do Not Expect to See [SPOILER] in Another Movie
"The Batman" director Matt Reeves explains why he cast Barry Keoghan in his surprising role, and what his future is in the larger franchise.
variety.com
Thinking about it, it would actually be really fun if PatBat used all the villains in Arkham as a tool to catch new villains.
He'd go to Riddler to solve puzzles, knowing how the Riddler sees him and talking to his superiority complex. He'd go to Joker to make sense of seemingly chaotic patterns or perhaps to cut back complexity and see the simple truths he'd overlooked. He'd go to Killer Croc to make sense of brutality, etc. It'd be an interesting show of both his detective prowess and his ability to read people, to know when he needs a unique perspective. Plus it'd be neat as a way to show the passage of time, that he's been there and taking care of business, giving context to scars and character growth.
He'd go to Riddler to solve puzzles, knowing how the Riddler sees him and talking to his superiority complex. He'd go to Joker to make sense of seemingly chaotic patterns or perhaps to cut back complexity and see the simple truths he'd overlooked. He'd go to Killer Croc to make sense of brutality, etc. It'd be an interesting show of both his detective prowess and his ability to read people, to know when he needs a unique perspective. Plus it'd be neat as a way to show the passage of time, that he's been there and taking care of business, giving context to scars and character growth.
For me, I came away with that because joker didn't need to be in it. It didn't add anything. I feel like he's in a hell of a lot already. For me, it felt…bleh. Riddler was great and while joker didn't take anything away from him, he didn't compliment him either. It was like the creator was saying "hey! We're gonna do joker too!" Might as well throw Harley right on his lap so they can do that as well. Like I said…i don't hate it but it's not exciting either. It just is.
I really want to see this sceneAbout the deleted scene:
Matt Reeves Explains ‘The Batman’ Ending: Do Not Expect to See [SPOILER] in Another Movie
"The Batman" director Matt Reeves explains why he cast Barry Keoghan in his surprising role, and what his future is in the larger franchise.
There's no way Joker isn't part of the inevitable TDK2
It's not like Barry has any Eternals commitments...
I know it's Batman's arch nemesis and he's iconic and everything but... yeah, I'm really sick of the character, I was hoping they'd give him a rest for a while. Hopefully they do something interesting with him at least.
the 2 batman villains ive been patiently waiting to see a live action movie with are Hush and Clayface (though im worried that theres a fine line between CGI clayface being good and just bad cgi).
You are never going to have a live action Batman without he's corresponding Joker. Never gonna happened and that's good.
Thinking otherwise is just foolish.
Joker as the bad idea bear character would be fun.
Heck, him twisting Hugo Strange would be wild.
I get that, but in the first 5 minutes of the film I knew the Joker was in this universe
I didn't care for the scene and I'm kind of tired of the Joker overall but yes he was really great and creepy in that film. I see why they chose him.
For sure. Which didn't add any world building for me but it did feel unnecessary.
Yeah I don't get the complaints. I just saw it as a cool way to show Riddler after his plan failed (which was already great) while also teasing Joker. Why not lolDesign-wise, he looked kinda like Arkham games' Joker:
Excited to have a Joker that will likely be a major presence in multiple movies. People who hated his inclusion are weird af lol. Being negative/contrarian is not a personality trait.
I think a good twist would be having him main an HBO show like the Arkham one and just be a presence in the actual movies, but each movie focuses on other villains.
true but that was a joker origin movie. they could explain it somehow that he became much more competent while spending years in arkham or something. if you take the killing joke as canon, then comic book joker really was a sort of pathetic nobody at some point in his life before becoming the real joker.
also i think if they introduce joker again in the matt reeves movies, the best way making him different than all the other jokers would be to also have harley quinn be there but recast her and make her fit the much more serious and dark tone of the batman movies instead of what the margot robbie version did.
In the Killing Joke he's also a huge dumbass before becoming the Joker. (Failed standup comedian, gets set up to be a fall guy for two losers, etc)
i didnt mind the scene but it kinda felt like a marvel post-credit scene
would be weird if it didnt happen
I thought it was Harvey Dent when I saw that scene and then I wasn't sure when he started laughing 😂
Joaquin Phoenix is a legendary actor but the entirety of that film is based on events that could not have occurred in the clearly defined universe laid out in The Batman. The time period is off, the ages are off, but most importantly (and even if all of that weren't the case), Arthur Fleck doesn't have any desire to challenge Batman. I think he'd be scared to challenge anyone who came after him.
Look I know that, but there's a clear breaking point around when he becomes "Joker" and the Joaquin movie doesn't have that same thing. Not to mention Killing Joke is kinda bad and I'd rather something more like what Snyder did with Red Hood than that (and lots of Snyder stuff seems to be in this so seems like a good bet).
I disliked that scene and the way it was shot made me think it was Two-Face at first lol. Just the whole vibe of the scene reeked of "Marvel's cameo character for future films" kind of shtick but I get it. Certainly holds no candle to how Batman Begins did the reveal.