The sister in SAO isn't even the objectionable part. A character gets sexually assaulted while her assailant literally drinks her tears.
Wtf is this. I thought it was about people going into a MMORPG and having adventures or something.
The sister in SAO isn't even the objectionable part. A character gets sexually assaulted while her assailant literally drinks her tears.
a sports bra would be revealing as well but still be more practical
I'm really not sure that's the case. There's plenty of examples of anime that are popular that don't feature much if any provocative sexual content. Of course, as you note, that doesn't stop anime that features provocative sexual content from being made. And there is probably greater tolerance of sexual content in family/general audience anime, such as Crayon Shin-chan, than a lot of people here would be comfortable with.
You're talking about shows in the winter season that haven't featured female nudity? Pretty sure there's more than that. (Also, as was earlier noted, Kokkoku had nudity in its ED as well as some salacious moments in the show proper.)
Bruh, she has the exact same body pre-timeskip.Neither was I.
Pretty sure the pic you're using is her after a long timeskip.
The second season also has a bunch of sexual assault and attempted rape with a different hypersexualized female character.Wtf is this. I thought it was about people going into a MMORPG and having adventures or something.
The sister in SAO isn't even the objectionable part. A character gets sexually assaulted while her assailant literally drinks her tears.
To the teenager these characters are near their age. I think there is room for a healthy depiction of sexual expression in shows for teenagers going through puberty. The execution matters a lot. Pandering camera angles and outfits aren't doing much in service of this because they serve male fantasies. But I believe the sexual expression can be done tastefully and it is something teenagers can relate to, given they are going through puberty themselves. And I believe that necessarily involves sex appeal. Just not the objectifying kind. As I said in my first post in this thread, there's a very fine line and most anime doesn't do it well imo.
and she never had any problem or was at disadvantageLike even this would've went a looooong way compared to her actual outfit:
What you're doing is making the usual excuses for why an anime might have the fanservice it does. Okay, Mineta is a perverted character and we can see perverted moments through his perspective. So what? It still results in unjustified fanservice that could still be shown in a non-explicit way, if a character like that even need to exist in the first place.
There is no justification here. It's blatant fanservice, and the excuses aren't even good.
This is on point.
Man...Boku no Pico is porn.You know all your high minded it's meant for kids so sexualizing kids in anime is ok falls apart the second you take a look at something like boku no piko. Anime caters to otaku more than anything. Grown men who can afford all the merchandise they need to be sold to make profit on anime.
...you're joking right? It's hard to tell in this thread.You know all your high minded it's meant for kids so sexualizing kids in anime is ok falls apart the second you take a look at something like boku no piko. Anime caters to otaku more than anything. Grown men who can afford all the merchandise they need to be sold to make profit on anime.
*whistles* yeah man that explains a lot.
Has there ever been authors/creators that admit they don't like the status quo and want to burn it in a dumpster fire?
Americans are generally a lot more puritan than the rest of the world, so your perception might be skwed. 15 isn't that rare for age of content in even plenty of advanced nations. And while old man creeping over 15 years old character is weird, those people aren't the target audience. The primary audience for shonen are middleschool and highschool boys and them lusting over 15 years old character is perfectly natural. Pretending that boys aren't interested in sex untill they reach 18 would be very naive.
Now when anime sexy up prepubescent girls and 800 years old vampire deamons, that's creepy :D
*whistles* yeah man that explains a lot.
Has there ever been authors/creators that admit they don't like the status quo and want to burn it in a dumpster fire?
dude,anime just means cartoonYou know all your high minded it's meant for kids so sexualizing kids in anime is ok falls apart the second you take a look at something like boku no piko. Anime caters to otaku more than anything. Grown men who can afford all the merchandise they need to be sold to make profit on anime.
The only reason I watched Dagashi Kashi.When I was 13, totally had a crush on the girls in Ranma, haha
and she never had any problem or was at disadvantage
momo I would be down to defend If she was wearing something like her festival clothes but nah her actual costume is shit but aesthetics wise and practicality
My dude, you are using HENTAI to prove your argument.using boku no piko was probably an extreme example but it illustrates my point. This industry has some pretty disgusting issues with sexualising children to sell merch to grown men. Body pillows etc. And their in a country that has massive issues on sexual assault on minors etc. Where possessing child porn was legal till like 4 years ago.
That's quite some hill to choose to die on to defend something.
Hentai is not at all in the same discussion here. And Boku no Pico is a gross example at that. You're misrepresenting the medium.using boku no piko was probably an extreme example but it illustrates my point. This industry has some pretty disgusting issues with sexualising children to sell merch to grown men. Body pillows etc. And their in a country that has massive issues on sexual assault on minors etc. Where possessing child porn was legal till like 4 years ago.
That's quite some hill to choose to die on to defend something.
I mean, you are assuming that they're taking her powers into question opposed to just making her a sexy hero, like Mt. Lady and Midnight.I like that if only because it levels everyones playing field because everyone had to wear the gym clothes basically. it works good in the sports festival because light and death shit aint happening. Her against someone like stain, it would be a big target because it would be a nice two inch of space she can't make stuff out of or else she would break her bra and her boobs would be everywhere. Todoroki caught two knives to the arm and Ida caught a punctured shoulder and a knife embedded in his arm from the fight.
She needs a new costume year but I think its going to have the same problem of not having a sports Bra because surface area, unless she can up her speed in making things in less surface area.
Now I'm debating rules of the Universe When I no problem with nothing else in the convo but people dragging Momo in it.
using boku no piko was probably an extreme example but it illustrates my point. This industry has some pretty disgusting issues with sexualising children to sell merch to grown men. Body pillows etc. And their in a country that has massive issues on sexual assault on minors etc. Where possessing child porn was legal till like 4 years ago.
That's quite some hill to choose to die on to defend something.
for what it's worth this is the type of age-less design in anime that I'm talking about. There is nothing physiologically indicating this character is any given age except for post-pubescent. If we were told she was 30 or 300 we'd buy it the same way if we were told she was 16. Is the design better or worse for that? I don't know but I do think it's safe to say that even if she was bio-ed at 16 it would be impossible to call this "sexualizing teens". In these design cases the age is entirely an arbitrary number to fit the story.The only reason I watched Dagashi Kashi.
If shes a cartoon, Im a cartoon.
Not as far I know their pretty silent on it. Probably cause they like getting money. But I don't think many people raised a brow when rurouni kenshin's author was arrested on charges of possessing child porn.
It is rather like stumbling into the Rationalization Olympics. I'm not sure I recall a thread on this forum which has disgusted me so much. But then, I guess I'm not the target audience for this thread...There is a TON of rationalisation in this thread that I'm pretty sure I would never see in any other subject on this board that referenced minors and their sexuality.
for what it's worth this is the type of age-less design in anime that I'm talking about. There is nothing physiologically indicating this character is any given age except for post-pubescent. If we were told she was 30 or 300 we'd buy it the same way if we were told she was 16. Is the design better or worse for that? I don't know but I do think it's safe to say that even if she was bio-ed at 16 it would be impossible to call this "sexualizing teens". In these design cases the age is entirely an arbitrary number to fit the story.
as opposed to get current clothes covering her back limiting her there and only some space in her frontI like that if only because it levels everyones playing field because everyone had to wear the gym clothes basically. it works good in the sports festival because light and death shit aint happening. Her against someone like stain, it would be a big target because it would be a nice two inch of space she can't make stuff out of or else she would break her bra and her boobs would be everywhere. Todoroki caught two knives to the arm and Ida caught a punctured shoulder and a knife embedded in his arm from the fight
Well, it's a tangential topic, but there are certainly Japanese people who are not okay with the "joshi kōsei" leaning businesses, as a mini-doc posted earlier in this thread shows. This is what permeates to anime, resulting in the topic we have now.The most important question is how do Japanese people feel about this? Even though it is good to have a conversation about it, I believe what we think is irrelevant because this issue concern Japanese society and it is inappropriate for other countries to try and westernized another nation.
I mean, you are assuming that they're taking her powers into question opposed to just making her a sexy hero, like Mt. Lady and Midnight.
I mean, while I agree that choosing the defend the blatant sexual nature of children in Japanese culture is a rough hill to die on, my dude...why are you using hentai as an example?
Or people like me,teenagers, are telling you that they like the shit and that it isnt aimed at adult exclusively, and you choose to ignore it.My point was the whole industry anime/manga/hentai are fine with making underage kids sexual objects and it's indefensible. But still people are coming with quiet level she breathes through her skin apologies or its ok its aimed at children defense for anime series.
I mean, you are assuming that they're taking her powers into question opposed to just making her a sexy hero, like Mt. Lady and Midnight.
To me Momo is someone who got cool with walking around naked when she was younger because she burst out of clothes all the time.
We all know most of them are going to get a costume revision at some point.
Midnight is a weird Dom lady and Mt.Lady is basically tryin
g the Kim Kardasian her way to the top. They take there jobs seriously to a point but they are also weird quirky people. We haven't even see the cooler female heroes yet so wait for that as it should begin to show up in season 3 but Yeah Early on maybe you could think that but Momo is never treated like a sexy character by anyone. Mostly she is just treated like the brainy rich kid that everyone knows. They don't make her do sexy poses or other out of character things so It doesn't break high on a tolerance level.
To me Momo is someone who got cool with walking around naked when she was younger because she burst out of clothes all the time. And We see she was Homeschooled alot also in the studying episode and never really had friends her own age. So yeah Maybe she was supposed to be a sexy character to begin with when the author designed her but he then wrote an actual character around the design that is actually pretty understandable and likable. Also She doesn't walk around with the Hero outfit all the time so it helps, I would not be as laid back about it if she walked around in those clothes during school hours or at her own home or out in the street when they go to the mall. But since they have practicallity and only pop up in certain situations I can deal with it.
We all know most of them are going to get a costume revision at some point. Deku has had like 4 new costumes because he breaks his shit all the time, SO assume when they Graduate they are all going to get there official Hero costumes and hers would be better suited for powers, Like could break away easily and reform once its done. Kinda like how Mount Lady's clothes stretch when she grows, Its a bit tighter on her when she is big but it seems like they went out of there way to not make her the hulk who bursts their shit when powers turn on.
Yeah she had to roll up her sleeves before the fight started to make sure she had space for it and had to unzip her jack to make a cannon. Yeah its not alot of time but we all watched the Stain fight and we saw how a villian fight can escalate super fast and if she doesn't have the space to make something, she would be boned, which is why she has shorts and a No sleeve vest. If we were going super practical, she would be like old Midnight who pretty much ran around stopping crime in a mask and panties with some leather around for asthetic purposes.as opposed to get current clothes covering her back limiting her there and only some space in her front
in her festival outfit she created a canon and shields
It still doesn't justify her costume as it's not revealing enough for her powers and only shows off her books and stomachI don't even know why Midnight is a teacher to begin with lol
What type of headcanon justification is this lmao, what does that even have to do with her design
That's no excuse, much a less good one.
I'm trying to think of cool female heroes from the manga and am coming up empty. I won't spoil people who are only watching the show but...I'd go as far as to say that interesting female characters, both hero and villain, are being pushed to the spinoff and even then, Popstar is absolutely a sexualized character.
Also, don't get your hopes up on new outfits. Deku's changes a lot but that's mostly because his fighting style changes every arc.
What western cartoons portray sexuality, besides maybe Star vs.?The fact is that western media manages to portray sexuality in the teenage years without having the characters in very revealing clothing with ridiculously big breasts and with those camera angles. So I don't see why japanese media can't?
Wtf is this. I thought it was about people going into a MMORPG and having adventures or something.
What shows in the west do it well in your opinion? I can think of Big Mouth, which is fantastic, but seems to be aimed more at adults.The fact is that western media manages to portray sexuality in the teenage years without having the characters in very revealing clothing with ridiculously big breasts and with those camera angles. So I don't see why japanese media can't?
SAO is also weird and terrible and its popularity is utterly baffling. There are way better anime, even better anime that tackle the same general modern-teen-in-a-fantasy-world premise (Konosuba, Re:Zero, etc).Wtf is this. I thought it was about people going into a MMORPG and having adventures or something.