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Fj0823

Legendary Duelist
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Oct 25, 2017
26,690
Costa Rica
So here's the story, at the beginning of this semester my group of friends got ready to be a team once again....Until it turned out that one of them had to leave school for a while, leaving us with less members than the minimum required for the big final project. Both me and my other friends were separated and reinstated in different teams

I was now in a 5 man team...That sadly ended being a two man team. For six months I had to deal with the other members not showing up for meetings, doing their report work hours before the deadline (and doing an awful job at it)or simply not even bothering to do any of their assigned work. The other member and I reached the point where we worked fully knowing that there was not going to be anything done by these people, and if it was, it would need to be heavily rewritten (As they liked to simply copy and paste stuff from old reports from older students).

The straw that broke the glass was the final project, where we were expected to do several lab tests using an industrial dryer. They showed up to the lab to do nothing but fiddle their phones or literally just watching shit dry when we were done preparing the samples. There was one time where I was running late and asked the teammate assigned to me to please start up the machine as to not lose much time. When I arrived, the lab was closed shut and the dryer was untouched in its protective wrap...As it turns out my teammate decided to just go have breakfast since I was running late. When I confronted her about it, she replies with "You should've known I have no idea how to even use this thing lol"

Then we had to present our results, during that night (We had to rush it the night before as we had lots of tests) the good teammate and I prepared a full analysis of all 16 samples, made a graph detailing their behavior, made a statistical analysis to determine the influence of variables on the dryer, determined the overall cost of producing dry samples, made several recommendations to improve our project idea and finally wrote down our conclusions. They on the other hand had 1 job. To determine a percentage based on a lab test they had to do. That was it.

They didn't do jackshit, and then just made up the value, I strongly refused to go forward with that, but all my other teammates said it wasn't that important since the bulk of the investigation was legit. I refused harder, got laughed at for being "Too moral" and they presented this made-up value. Just to cover my ass, I saved some screenshots of all the times I refused to do use that and all the times I offered alternatives that were ignored.

I presented our results in front of the teacher and refused to say anything about that part, even though it was added by them to the presentation. In the end, I managed to do very well and we got a good score, but before the scoring is complete, all members could grade each other.

I obviously gave them a failing score. While giving the other teammate a great score.

Yesterday the final results came in and we all passed, except one of the people I gave a failing score to, turns out they did awful in the final test and my failing score was the coup the grace. I receive a text calling me a piece of shit, I ignore it.

Then I receive another flurry of texts from one of the other teammates, saying that I should take responsibility for what I did, so he says that he will go straight to the teacher and confess about making up a value, so that the entire project is flagged as illegitimate and we all fail (at best, as their idiocy could even be cause for suspension).This idiot says he is willing to do it for the other girl and because he's "So pissed off at me"

After talking around for a bit, I learned that he was harassing the other members until they showed a screenshot of them giving a passing grade, and that's how they came to me.

Initially I called their bluff and ignored it, but there's 2 problems.

1) My phone was stolen recently, so I just lost my leverage screenshots
2) My phone backup did not go far enough to retrieve them

And now my anxiety is kicking in at full blast, what if this idiot actually does go scorched earth?

What can I do now? I'm feeling extremely scared even though I did nothing wrong...I have no way to prove it.
 

Mobu

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
5,932
talk to your teacher in person as soon as you can, tell him all you said here
 

Nida

Member
Aug 31, 2019
11,268
Everett, Washington
What's your history in the class, and at the school? If you've not done anything in the past I could see them easily believing you over the other person.

And yeah, talk to your teacher and tell them everything.
 
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Fj0823

Fj0823

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Oct 25, 2017
26,690
Costa Rica
What's your history in the class, and at the school? If you've not done anything in the past I could see them easily believing you over the other person.

And yeah, talk to your teacher and tell them everything.

I'm clean, and I had a very good final score, even though this particular teachers has both praised me and went full Gordon Ramsay on me.

If anything, I'm extremely anxious about breaking any rules, which is why I had a thread about fearing one of my reports was plagiarized a couple years ago
 

Rackham

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,532
I wouldn't worry about it. You gave your team mate a failing grade for a reason. The teacher probably guessed at the situation to begin with. If you feel that strongly, set up a meeting with the teacher and tell them you're getting harassed about it.

edit: If they keep harassing you that they will go tell, call their bluff and say you have the screenshot and that if they continue to bother you you will get them and the failing student in trouble with the school
 

Mobu

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
5,932
dont worry about the no evidence, teachers know who is and who isnt a trash student, he will 100% take your side
 

Nida

Member
Aug 31, 2019
11,268
Everett, Washington
I'm clean, and I had a very good final score, even though this particular teachers has both praised me and went full Gordon Ramsay on me

You should be fine then. The person going scorched Earth is basically just explaining why they got a failing participation score. Why would you fail because they didn't hold up their end of the bargain and pressured you?
 

Quinton

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Oct 25, 2017
17,347
Midgar, With Love
Can you try telling the teacher everything you wrote here preemptively, including how anxious you are? And sorta shake around flamboyantly to make sure they know you're really, really anxious. Wag your arms and pump your fist to show pride in your own work but tap your feet when talking about the odd ducks who did this. Also, how old are these shmucks? Very odd ducks. Lots of cliched bully quacking. They ought to fail a few more classes for good measure after this.
 

Lotus

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
106,360
Talk to your teacher while you have the chance. Best of luck to ya
 

Ryan.

Prophet of Truth
The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
12,922
I feel like the teacher will side with you over the student who failed the class
 

Deleted member 2533

User requested account closure
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Oct 25, 2017
8,325
It's a screenshot of text? Just make a fake one up, what are they gonna do, come back with the real ones that make them look guilty?
 

Daysean

Member
Nov 15, 2017
7,399
Call their bluff and talk to the teacher and remove any leverage they have
If it results in a L then hey whatever
We don't negotiate with terrorists
 

Deleted member 23850

Oct 28, 2017
8,689
If nothing else happens, just take comfort in the fact that these two classmates won't last very long in an actual job. Reality will hit them fast and colleagues (and bosses) aren't going to deal with that shit.

But yeah, talk to your teachers privately.
 

Goskarrr

Member
Oct 27, 2017
422
As already stated, talk to the teacher to remove any leverage they might have, fuck them, you're in the right.
 

Skunk

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Oct 28, 2017
3,081
Even if you don't have your leverage screenshots, you probably do have all your drafts/finished work you contributed and they will probably have jack shit. As others have stated, tell the teacher everything and bring the work you did. Let the dumb dumbs roast themselves.
 

jviggy43

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
18,184
1. Bluff and tell them you have the screenshots
2. Go to the teacher and tell them what happened.
3. Show the teacher the screenshots of them threatening you.
 

Log!

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,418
Talk to the teacher ASAP, just in case, but it's very likely the teacher already knew they were flakes and isn't going to take their side.
 

Bitanator

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,064
Be an adult about it. If this jackass did not do the work, they deserve the grade. I had to deal with a coasting student in a previous course. He did nothing to help write our 20-page analysis paper, and on Saturday before the due date wrote out a plea to get a good peer evaluation grade, they don't deserve it as they never learn.
 

MrNewVegas

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Oct 27, 2017
10,738
I love them saying you are going to be responsible for your actions, yet they can't handle being responsible for theirs lmfao
 
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Fj0823

Fj0823

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Oct 25, 2017
26,690
Costa Rica
The only reason as to why I don't want to go to the teacher first is because that would open the can of worms for my cool teammate and the so-so one that don't really deserve any of this shit. Which is the reason the other idiot said to me he was going to "Ask them how they feel about "my actions" and then send an email to the teacher"

Like what are they going to say? "Yeah bro, go ahead and put our passing grades in danger because of your friend"?
 

Mobius

Banned
Oct 10, 2019
246
i dont get threads like this honestly, random ppl on a website cant help you with a potentially threatening situation. Screenshot everything and alert the teacher.
 

Afrikan

Member
Oct 28, 2017
17,047
Initially I called their bluff and ignored it, but there's 2 problems.

1) My phone was stolen recently, so I just lost my leverage screenshots
2) My phone backup did not go far enough to retrieve

After reading the whole post, and getting to this part... I did laugh. What are the chances... dang. But I'm only telling you because I think you'll be fine. Like others have said, I'm sure the teacher will trust your character.

That being said, I've always hated working in groups...mainly groups that are not of my choosing. And I would have did the same thing you did, but actually I would have told everyone ahead of time that I would put them on blast if they didn't carry their weight...or at least communicate, and we work out whatever things they might be struggling with as a team.
 

Bakercat

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Oct 27, 2017
10,154
'merica
Talk to your professor about what is happening and have good teammates back you up. He will be reprimanded for his actions.
 

Cyanity

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,345
You should talk to your professor but ask for discretion. Kindly ask for this matter to be kept under wraps unless one of your group members actually goes forth with their plan, to prevent exacerbating your anxiety. Hopefully your professor is reasonable enough to understand your plight.
 
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Fj0823

Fj0823

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Oct 25, 2017
26,690
Costa Rica
Why are you spending so much time an mental energy in classes during grad school? Classes should be like 10% of your time at the most, unless you are in an MBA program or something like that.

not sure how it works in America but here a "Grad Student" is the one that is pursuing a degree.

In my case, I'm about to become a Licenciate in Chemical Engineering early next year...Provided this idiot doesn't do this very stupid thing
 
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maigret

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Jun 28, 2018
3,227
Ah yes, group assignments. Where you actually learn how shitty and unreliable most people are.
 

Masoyama

Attempted to circumvent a ban with an alt account
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
5,648
not sure how it works in America but here a "Grad Student" is the one that is pursuing a degree.

In my case, I'm about to become a Licensee in Chemical Engineering early next year...Provided this idiot doesn't do this very stupid thing

Ok. You are in undergrad then. I did my Bachelors and my Licentiate in Costa Rica which is what I assume you are talking about? When I moved to the US to get my PhD, that is what people call grad school. Licentiate is a weird half-step, but it is absolutely not "grad school".
 

thisismadness

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Oct 25, 2017
4,468
What do they even expect you to do? Whats done is done, I can't imagine the professor is going to let you change the grade.
 

ItIsOkBro

Happy New Year!!
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
9,543
if your prof a good prof? if so, chances are they'll know what's what and won't give this shit member the time of day.
 

nitewulf

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Nov 29, 2017
7,222
Ok. You are in undergrad then. I did my Bachelors and my Licentiate in Costa Rica which is what I assume you are talking about? When I moved to the US to get my PhD, that is what people call grad school. Licentiate is a weird half-step, but it is absolutely not "grad school".
Grad school is MS/MA/MBA or PhD.
 
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Fj0823

Fj0823

Legendary Duelist
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Oct 25, 2017
26,690
Costa Rica
if your prof a good prof? if so, chances are they'll know what's what and won't give this shit member the time of day.

Think Gordon Ramsay but chemistry. I've been called both a careless dunce and an amazing student equally.

He has zero time for any of this shit, in fact I think that having to deal with this will make him furious, which is why I'm not particularly fond of the idea of going to him
 

Cordy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,471
Yeah go to the teacher. Whatever happens happens. As long as you did your part you'll be fine. They're adults so they'll have to take it on the chin.
 

Nigthwizard

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
635
Costa Rica
You'll be fine, just talk to your teacher if you feel they are going to do something, after all they will be shooting themselves on their foot if they do anything
 

Bear Patrol

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Oct 27, 2017
1,046
Think Gordon Ramsay but chemistry. I've been called both a careless dunce and an amazing student equally.

He has zero time for any of this shit, in fact I think that having to deal with this will make him furious, which is why I'm not particularly fond of the idea of going to him
It will make him furious but not with you.

Not dealing with this shit through the professor could lead to them fucking up your future on their terms. Don't let it come to that.

Take this as a lesson to be more proactive when it comes to protecting yourself going forward.
 

nitewulf

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Nov 29, 2017
7,222
Well I'm saying what a grad degree is, bachelor's and below (associate, technical diploma etc) aren't grad level, a license like PE isn't a degree.
 

Burt

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Oct 28, 2017
8,185
They did awful in the final test and you gave them a failing score, while you got a good grades across the board. You're fine.

That being said, it's academia, so it's possible your teacher is an absurd, sadistic, narcissistic, barb wire sledgehammer, so also, you might not be fine when they find out someone in your group lied in the presentation.

So hey, you might probably be almost okay, maybe
 

tabris

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Oct 27, 2017
4,243
I'm going to present a different situation - you screwed up originally by not dealing with them having a poor performance in the first place. Group work sucks but is a great example and learning experience in real world where you'll have B and C players working along with the A players. The best A players know how to either inspire / motivate/ uplift the B or C players on their team or deal with the dead weight.