Absolutely not. Keeping such a serious security vulnerability intact in your system after it becomes publicly known and exploitable is the worst thing you can do.
Absolutely not. Keeping such a serious security vulnerability intact in your system after it becomes publicly known and exploitable is the worst thing you can do.
First, you shouldn't have two EPPs running on one machine.Even if I'm one of the few dumbasses that still has Avira and Symantec active? I do wonder if I lose more performance from them than from the bug, though.
What? No. You should *enable* them.
Was planning on building a new PC this year, looks like I'm going back to AMD.
They'll probably announce like 3 new i7 generations again this year lol, just hold tightWas planning on building a new PC this year, looks like I'm going back to AMD.
Some initial reports from techies testing on Linux have reported no gaming performance impact.
Highly context-switching focused, so multitasking is most likely to take a major hit. Close those Firefox windows when playing games. ;P
I think AMD already had a bug that required a similar patch.Welp. Thankfully, I'm do for an upgrade later this year. Might go with An AMD cpu for the first time because of this mess.
Link?
Did you even look at the date?
In a few months we will get a node shrink of original Zen [lower power consumption and a slight factory overclock]. In a year AMD will release Zen2, first real redesign.Is there a new Ryzen line on the horizon or should I just get what's out there now if performance hit is >5%
pretty much, although it might result in lower I/O with pcie based drives (nvme). I'd assume that performance will go up over time while said fixes have speed refinements added, or that NT implementation will have higher performanceSomeone can correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't it seem like 30% performance degradation is only a worst case scenario in tasks that require a lot of system calls into kernal? That is to say, not gaming and general tasks.
pretty much, although it might result in lower I/O with pcie based drives (nvme). I'd assume that performance will go up over time while said fixes have speed refinements added, or that NT implementation will have higher performance
Intel CEO sold as much stock as he was allowed to on Nov 29. Only kept the bare minimum mandated on him as CEO. Hmmm.
https://www.fool.com/amp/investing/...a-lot-of-stock.aspx?__twitter_impression=true
Datacenters are completely boned. Their workloads are exactly the kind most directly affected. Companies like Amazon and Google may be forced to deploy 20% more CPUs (or even more) just to get back to the same previous levels of performance, which will drive prices for their services way up.
anyone needing a lot of I/O (database, VMs, compiling) will take a performance hit on Linux, everything else should be fine, esp. if Windows implementation is faster than the current Linux one.So, in other words, average consumers who use their computers for gaming and general computing might do well to keep from overreacting? Not saying this isn't a big deal, because it definitely is. But it seems to me, with my limited knowledge, that average consumers aren't getting fucked by this as much as power users and enterprises whose computing involves high intensity work loads and things like deploying a lot of VMs?
If anyone's going to make a stink that actually leads to a satisfactory resolution, it'll be that sector. The fact that this so disproportionately affects those users makes me hopeful that this won't just get swept under the rug.
So, in other words, average consumers who use their computers for gaming and general computing might do well to keep from overreacting? Not saying this isn't a big deal, because it definitely is. But it seems to me, with my limited knowledge, that average consumers aren't getting fucked by this as much as power users and enterprises whose computing involves high intensity work loads and things like deploying a lot of VMs?
If anyone's going to make a stink that actually leads to a satisfactory resolution, it'll be that sector. The fact that this so disproportionately affects those users makes me hopeful that this won't just get swept under the rug.
I bought a new PC few hrs before I saw this thread and it has intel... should I cancel? T_T
There's a lot of talk going on here right now -- some of which I'm sure is hyperbolic. What's the performance degradation for the average user?
Is this tied to a certain generation of Intel CPUs -- like the 2, 3, or 4 series? Or is it the while kitten kabootle all the way up to the 8th series?
I bought a new PC few hrs before I saw this thread and it has intel... should I cancel? T_T
Nobody knows for sure yet. All we have now are vague details about the problem and informed speculation and benchmarks based on in-progress linux patches. The specifics of the vulnerability are embargoed, but if we assume the windows fixes have a similar performance impact to the linux ones (which, who knows), gaming or other general home uses won't feel it too much. Basically, if you're a normal home user, I wouldn't fret about it just yet. Datacenters might be pretty well fucked.There's a lot of talk going on here right now -- some of which I'm sure is hyperbolic. What's the performance degradation for the average user?
Which sounds like it'll effect us all but probably not in a way we can do anything about anyway.Unless you're planning running a virtual machine on that computer all signs point to a minimal impact for end users. It will mostly affect companies like Google and Amazon that run server farms with virtual machines on Intel processors.
Damn. First time I go with Intel ever and this happens. I built my new PC at just the wrong time. It was that tail-end period with only FX AMD chips but I couldn't wait another 7-8 months for Ryzen and who knew how good they'd be? I just built a gaming PC a few months ago for a family member and it was the Ryzen build I would have made if I was more patient. I might be moving up my next build now.
I hope the hit is more 5% than 30%. I'll have to overclock just to get back to standard speed, ffs. Intel better have some compensation plan for this.
Damn. First time I go with Intel ever and this happens. I built my new PC at just the wrong time. It was that tail-end period with only FX AMD chips but I couldn't wait another 7-8 months for Ryzen and who knew how good they'd be? I just built a gaming PC a few months ago for a family member and it was the Ryzen build I would have made if I was more patient. I might be moving up my next build now.
I hope the hit is more 5% than 30%. I'll have to overclock just to get back to standard speed, ffs. Intel better have some compensation plan for this.
Can someone please break this down for those who aren't very processor savvy?
There's a bug that affects Intel processors... It only effects Linux and windows users? Anything thats i5 or i7?
How does it affects apple computers?