Is compiling shaders before playing like MH: Rise and Modern Warfare (2019) the only way to get a stutter-free experience on modern games on PC?

[A Strong Latte]

No. The problem is that shader permutations have exploded over the last generation when it's not actually necessary. It's a combination of art pipelines being so flexible as to allow artists to create combinatorial explosions in materials and engines not making use of new api features like push constants. Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal only use ~100 shaders total because they use a well-tuned ubershader instead of generating shaders for every material in the game.

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Aaaah. I was wondering why those two were the only smooth games I've played in a decade lol. that's awesome.

 

[JahIthBer]

Going back to DX11 and letting Nvidia handle it would be better. Microsoft and Epic don't care to solve it as their focus is Consoles.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

look at the number of fixes that people proposed to solve the stuttering in elden ring.

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And most of them being placebo bullshit or a mix of simple good habits about how to maintain a well performing system that aren't really "ER specific" (like increasing the size/removing the size limit of your GPU shader cache).

 

[Alexandros]

It is a real shame that a thread containing genuinely valuable information and hosting an interesting discussion was completely derailed by people deciding that this was the proper venue for them to voice their general grievances with PC gaming and their love and admiration for console gaming. As with every thread of this nature we also had the clockwork-like appearance of old classics like "I have to tinker with every game for two full days to get it to even launch" and "my PC explodes as soon as I double-click the game's icon on the desktop".

PC is an open platform. You can do all sorts of things on it. You don't have to do them. You have the option, not the obligation. If a specific game isn't running properly it's the developer's responsibility to fix it, not yours. You have the option, due to the platform's open nature, to try some workarounds while the developer investigates the issue and applies a proper fix. Again, you have the option, not the obligation. And hey, if the existence of the option doesn't work for you, great! Choose another platform that better suits your wants and needs, but let's not pretend that console gaming in 2022 is a smooth and trouble-free experience when sites like Digital Foundry have comprehensively proven otherwise.

 

[bitcloudrzr]

"my PC explodes as soon as I double-click the game's icon on the desktop".

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[daninthemix]

It is a real shame that a thread containing genuinely valuable information and hosting an interesting discussion was completely derailed by people deciding that this was the proper venue for them to voice their general grievances with PC gaming and their love and admiration for console gaming. As with every thread of this nature we also had the clockwork-like appearance of old classics like "I have to tinker with every game for two full days to get it to even launch" and "my PC explodes as soon as I double-click the game's icon on the desktop".

PC is an open platform. You can do all sorts of things on it. You don't have to do them. You have the option, not the obligation. If a specific game isn't running properly it's the developer's responsibility to fix it, not yours. You have the option, due to the platform's open nature, to try some workarounds while the developer investigates the issue and applies a proper fix. Again, you have the option, not the obligation. And hey, if the existence of the option doesn't work for you, great! Choose another platform that better suits your wants and needs, but let's not pretend that console gaming in 2022 is a smooth and trouble-free experience when sites like Digital Foundry have comprehensively proven otherwise.

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Absolutely wonderful post. Five thumbs up.

 

[Skyfireblaze]

It is a real shame that a thread containing genuinely valuable information and hosting an interesting discussion was completely derailed by people deciding that this was the proper venue for them to voice their general grievances with PC gaming and their love and admiration for console gaming. As with every thread of this nature we also had the clockwork-like appearance of old classics like "I have to tinker with every game for two full days to get it to even launch" and "my PC explodes as soon as I double-click the game's icon on the desktop".

PC is an open platform. You can do all sorts of things on it. You don't have to do them. You have the option, not the obligation. If a specific game isn't running properly it's the developer's responsibility to fix it, not yours. You have the option, due to the platform's open nature, to try some workarounds while the developer investigates the issue and applies a proper fix. Again, you have the option, not the obligation. And hey, if the existence of the option doesn't work for you, great! Choose another platform that better suits your wants and needs, but let's not pretend that console gaming in 2022 is a smooth and trouble-free experience when sites like Digital Foundry have comprehensively proven otherwise.

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You said what I said earlier much better so thanks for that :)

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Thanks for the laugh in the morning :D