Of course it is.
You can have preferences, but to say you would never date someone just because they're bi is absolutely bigotry.
You can have preferences, but to say you would never date someone just because they're bi is absolutely bigotry.
Is refusing to date bisexual people bigotry?
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HIV is rampant in the gay community still, but not the lesbian community.
It's not a non-sequitur.
Here, I'll logic this out for you.
1. Who you date is subjective, based in part by who you find attractive.
2. A person may not find someone else attractive for a multitude of arbitrary reasons
3. Being bisexual is an arbitrary reason
Therefore, not dating a person who is bisexual is based, in part, from a subjective lack of attraction.
Unless you'd like to argue that being attracted or not being attracted to someone constitutes bigotry. I'm all ears for that one.
It just doesn't really matter whether or not it makes you a bigot.
Trying to make the decision for others (by making certain types of relationships illegal or judging others for their relationships) is an actually relevant form of bigotry that matters.
Trying to make the decision for others (by making certain types of relationships illegal or judging others for their relationships) is an actually relevant form of bigotry that matters.
This co-opting of progressive "love whoever you want" thinking for the purpose of justifying biphobia (and transphobia, for the matter) is some seriously gross stuff.
What are you talking about? What kind of relationships are being made illegal?
So I guess women should watch more gay porn to get over their hang ups then
No one is forcing you to date a bi person. But the fact of the matter is that loving someone... then suddenly not just because you find out they don't swing for one team IS biphobic, and IS bigoted. You just have to accept that you are. Own it. You're being bigoted.
America has a bias towards the bisexuality of women compared to men.
For women, its viewed as attractive and empowering. For men, its viewed as closeted and emasculating. (Oddly enough from women and gay men, Ive seen women say that bi men lack masculinity and Ive seen gay men say bi men deny their gay identity)
For women, its viewed as attractive and empowering. For men, its viewed as closeted and emasculating. (Oddly enough from women and gay men, Ive seen women say that bi men lack masculinity and Ive seen gay men say bi men deny their gay identity)
Nope, but some will try to frame it that way.
One can have their own preferences or orientation and can be okay with someone else preferences or orientation.
Like the pure concept? Like, "Yes honey, I've dated a man/woman before in my life but I'm with you now full time" and the fact that they've done it in the past upsets you?
Then yeah, that's pretty bigoted. If the only thing making or breaking a relationship is their sexual history, that's biggotry
Then yeah, that's pretty bigoted. If the only thing making or breaking a relationship is their sexual history, that's biggotry
MSM as a whole have much higher HIV rates than straight people/queer women, but that's to be expected given the both nature of transmission and the fact that the disease first cropped in in gay male communities. Can't speak for other STIs
Not that any of that shit matters though cause you should be using safer sex and getting tested anyway regardless of who you fuck
How does any of that allow you to arrive to the conclusion that it isn't bigoted? You've done nothing to actually show that it isn't bigoted. And yes, if you for example say that you find black people or asians unattractive and don't date them, case closed, you're a bigot.
Okay, but people shouldn't disavow themselves of all responsibility for it. It's a completely irrational reaction, so it's worth a moment of personal reflection.
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If you're a woman and your reason for not liking a dude is because he fucked a man but he also likes women, that's assholish
Hell if you a gay man, and your reason for not liking a dude is bc he fucked women too, but likes dudes too, you're also an asshole
There was an episode of Grownish last week that kinda talked about this, a bi woman on the show learned a dude was bi and broke up with him, he ends up calling her out for being insecure and being an asshole
Which is kinda true
If you're a woman and your reason for not liking a dude is because he fucked a man but he also likes women, that's assholish
Hell if you a gay man, and your reason for not liking a dude is bc he fucked women too, but likes dudes too, you're also an asshole
There was an episode of Grownish last week that kinda talked about this, a bi woman on the show learned a dude was bi and broke up with him, he ends up calling her out for being insecure and being an asshole
Which is kinda true
So I guess being a bigot is alright, seeing as how I'm sure I'd be hard-pressed to find anyone here denying the fact that everyone should have the right to choose who they share their life with, based on whichever criteria they so wish.
Calling people who prefer not to date bisexual people bigoted can only be called a misplaced desire to label anyone and everyone. It's clear the matter is a bit more complex than that.
Here's the bottom line: You do not impinge on anyone else's life by refusing to date them, for whatever reason. I'd be a racist for hurling slurs at Asian people, but I wouldn't be a racist for preferring black women over Asian women.
Calling people who prefer not to date bisexual people bigoted can only be called a misplaced desire to label anyone and everyone. It's clear the matter is a bit more complex than that.
Here's the bottom line: You do not impinge on anyone else's life by refusing to date them, for whatever reason. I'd be a racist for hurling slurs at Asian people, but I wouldn't be a racist for preferring black women over Asian women.
Gay sex does nothing for me, and imagining my partner in that position would be a turn-off.
That's not good logic because none of that had anything to do with the question at hand, what acts count as bigoted. It's absolutely a non sequitur because it fails to address the question. I get that you're probably relying on a nonexplicit axiom about preference somehow needing to be free from accusations of bias, but that's literally just begging the question.
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That's a very different question I think. Not to boil transgender people down to just sexual beings, but it's hard to call someone a bigot because they aren't attracted to post-op genitalia.
Prior to Loving v Virginia interracial marriage was illegal. That's a harmful form of bigotry.
You disapproving of other people dating a bi or trans person is terrible and should actively be discouraged.
You yourself not being interested in dating someone who is any sort of category is bigotry. But it simply doesn't affect anyone to any reasonable extent.
If that bigotry manifests itself in other problematic ways then it becomes a real problem.
I mean I wouldn't care but people date who they're gonna date. Far be it from me to attach labels to them over what they choose to do romantically.
I almost wonder if this often stems from a place of insecurity. Is it often because they find homosexual acts repulsive? Or is it often because dating a bisexual person, for some people, may mean "competing" with both genders, and results in an (irrational) fear of there being a higher chance of getting cheated on or something..?
For me, personally, I wouldn't really mind dating a bisexual dude, no. Sexuality's a pretty small part of someone, anyway.
For me, personally, I wouldn't really mind dating a bisexual dude, no. Sexuality's a pretty small part of someone, anyway.
To be honest, I expected this thread to be in the other direction. Most threads I've seen about people not wanting to date people of certain races is usually (rightfully) met with racism accusations. I don't understand how sexuality is that far different.
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Bisexuality isn't promiscuousness. A bi person is attracted to multiple genders but their partner is who they love.
Yes. It's definitely a masculinity thing. Or a -phobia thing. Not a good look, regardless.
You don't have to date someone you don't want to, but you can't defend being a bigot.
You don't have to date someone you don't want to, but you can't defend being a bigot.
I feel like you're ignoring the thoughts that people have that lead to them not wanting to date those people.
Complex in what way? What non-bigoted views could you possibly have that make it so you that you don't want to date someone who is bisexual?
It's insecurity
Hell I've heard it from some straight dudes who ain't like dating Bi-Girls bc they were scared they wouldn't be enough
People are stupid
Totally, and it is fairly likely that personal bigotry can manifest in other ways that can actively harm people around you.
I imagine that for most monog people, imagining their partner with their past partners would also be a turn off, and yet people still get along fine without exclusively dating virgins
Might help actually
But what I was getting at is that it's society that heterocenters lesbian sex but keeps gay male sex as very homocentered.
Point I was getting at is that it isn't that men are more progressive it's that lesbians are fetishized.
I thought it was obvious that my argument is that attraction is subjective and being attracted to someone or not is not bigoted.
Like I said, unless people want to start arguing that not being attracted to someone makes one a bigot.
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On one hand, anybody can pass up on a date for any given reason they please.
On the other hand, it makes no sense to pass up on someone for that reason, or at least i don't see any practical reason why it would be a deterrent to a relationship.
With that said, often when i see cases of "no Bi" they're 90% of the time based on completely bigoted reasons.
On the other hand, it makes no sense to pass up on someone for that reason, or at least i don't see any practical reason why it would be a deterrent to a relationship.
With that said, often when i see cases of "no Bi" they're 90% of the time based on completely bigoted reasons.
Women are saying no for a non opposite reason for why men are saying yes.
Women are saying no because of homophobia and toxic+hyper masculinization. The idea that men having gay sexual interactions is emasculating even if they sometimes swing the other way.
Heterosexual Men are saying yes because the idea of lesbianism is purely a conduit for their own projection into a threesome. Het men can still be homophobic, but their superficial tolerance of lesbians really ties into desires of self insert fantasies.
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