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Oh boy.
That's a can'o'worms OP.
Can't wait for a imperial x metric thread, a tipping thread and a circumcision thread for the most weekend-ERA we can be.
 

tolkir

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,256
At least, you still use months, days and years. If it was like your weight and height system, it would be 42 moons, 20 suns and 325.4 stars.
 

alr1ght

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,133
Tell your computer to sort files with these dates:

Jan 13
Feb 19
Mar 3
Apr 9
May 1
Jun 18

mm/dd

01.13
02.19
03.03
04.09
05.01
06.18

dd/mm

01.05
03.03
09.04
13.01
18.06
19.02

a mess, right.

You'll get no argument from me regarding imperial/metric, as imperial is stupid AF.
 

Mivey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,987
I agree. As a European, I would be deeply confused and scared to live in a world where Americans suddenly started to use proper formats, units or just generally did more sensible things, like introduce gun control.
Knowing that, however weird and crazy my live here sometimes is, there's somewhere else that's always weirder and just outright wrong about near everything gives me grounding.
 

molnizzle

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
17,695
Tell your computer to sort files with these dates:

Jan 13
Feb 19
Mar 3
Apr 9
May 1
Jun 18

mm/dd

01.13
02.19
03.03
04.09
05.01
06.18

dd/mm

01.05
03.03
09.04
13.01
18.06
19.02

a mess, right.

You'll get no argument from me regarding imperial/metric, as imperial is stupid AF.
ding ding ding

I don't even want to see some y'all's European file directories.
 

PinkSpider

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,058
SS/MM/LLLL makes sense. America you do it weird. (Small to large makes sense).

As for computer formatting though YYYYMMDD(HHMMSS, I think... no one uses that mind); we had a forecasting manager who enforced that and it stuck.
 
Oct 28, 2017
22,596
I agree. As a European, I would be deeply confused and scared to live in a world where Americans suddenly started to use proper formats, units or just generally did more sensible things, like introduce gun control.
Knowing that, however weird and crazy my live here sometimes is, there's somewhere else that's always weirder and just outright wrong about near everything gives me grounding.

relax, broham. I'm being cheeky.
 

mopinks

Member
Oct 27, 2017
30,660
I've never heard an argument for why MM/DD/YYYY is bad that wasn't just "because it is"
 

Apollo

Corrupted by Vengeance
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
8,148
Yeah I'm quite fond of america's date format. Just makes sense when I read it out. Unlike the measurement system it has never really felt like there's a super compelling reason to dunk on it?
 

Shoe

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,209
Tell your computer to sort files with these dates:

Jan 13
Feb 19
Mar 3
Apr 9
May 1
Jun 18

mm/dd

01.13
02.19
03.03
04.09
05.01
06.18

dd/mm

01.05
03.03
09.04
13.01
18.06
19.02

a mess, right.

You'll get no argument from me regarding imperial/metric, as imperial is stupid AF.
Yup. The American way is actually functionally superior for dates. The imperial system for measurements? Yeah, that's worse.
 

StrangeADT

Prophet of Truth
Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,092
Tell your computer to sort files with these dates:

Jan 13
Feb 19
Mar 3
Apr 9
May 1
Jun 18

mm/dd

01.13
02.19
03.03
04.09
05.01
06.18

dd/mm

01.05
03.03
09.04
13.01
18.06
19.02

a mess, right.

You'll get no argument from me regarding imperial/metric, as imperial is stupid AF.
Add year to the mix and the whole world burns.

yyyy/mm/dd

Unless you like looking at:

03/03/2021
03/04/1920
06/07/2025
 

Gay Bowser

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Oct 30, 2017
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I've never heard an argument for why MM/DD/YYYY is bad that wasn't just "because it is"
I think the idea is that going from smallest to largest can make sense, and going from largest to smallest can also make sense, but going middle unit, then smallest unit, then largest unit doesn't really make sense from either perspective. It's be weird to express a length of time as five months, two years, and three days. Or two years, three days, and five months. Or a length of road as two miles, six inches, and seventy feet. And so on.

As a computer scientist I think YYYY/MM/DD makes the most sense, since it can be easily sorted. But it really doesn't matter what people use in, like, casual conversation.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Middle endian (the USA way) is just chaotic. Either go little endian like the rest of the world does in every day or big endian for file names (ISO 8601)
 

Dekuman

Member
Oct 27, 2017
19,053
File sorting on a computer and spreadsheet is much more logical on a M/D/Y format.
I use both but generally prefer m/d/y. In Canada it's about 70/30 on M/D/Y vs D/M/Y
 

finalflame

Product Management
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Oct 27, 2017
8,538
I agree. As a European, I would be deeply confused and scared to live in a world where Americans suddenly started to use proper formats, units or just generally did more sensible things, like introduce gun control.
Knowing that, however weird and crazy my live here sometimes is, there's somewhere else that's always weirder and just outright wrong about near everything gives me grounding.
The holier-than-thou anti-American attitude on ERA is reaching new heights.

OP, the entire premise to your thread is factually incorrect. I think that's an impressive feat given the simplicity of the subject matter.

With that said,I've always understood it to be formatted as it is because that's how we verbalize it. "Yesterday was April 3rd, 2021" -> 4/3/2021.
 

Martin

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
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And as a European I like YYYY/MM/DD best instead of our DD/MM/YYYY.
But MM/DD/YYYY just totally looks random to me.
 

Mivey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,987
The holier-than-thou anti-American attitude on ERA is reaching new heights.
Now, that's not fair. Yes, I was doing some low-effort trolling, but that doesn't mean I don't also openly and consistently admit that Europe in general, and my country in particular has issues, and will comment and call them out as it comes up on Era.
 

finalflame

Product Management
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,538
Now, that's not fair. Yes, I was doing some low-effort trolling, but that doesn't mean I don't also openly and consistently admit that Europe in general, and my country in particular has issues, and will comment and call them out as it comes up on Era.
I wasn't meaning to single you out, just a trend one observes. I'll be the first to admit we have major issues, ERA just loves to dogpile the US at any chance, over anything. That's cool though, we have our fair share of problems.
 

The Adder

Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,366
Oh right. So why is it mm-dd-yy in America
Because it should either be Year > Month > Day or Month > Day > Year.

Search parameters by relevance. You don't open up a calendar and search for the day then the month. You search month first. You would search for year before that, but that's often only going to come up if it's in a different year.

I'd be an advocate for a standardization over to Year/Month/Day, but Day/Month/Year has no practical benefits over Month/Day/Year and is purely an aesthetic preference.
 

JackSwift

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,299
Because it should either be Year > Month > Day or Month > Day > Year.

Search parameters by relevance. You don't open up a calendar and search for the day then the month. You search month first. You would search for year before that, but that's often only going to come up if it's in a different year.

I'd be an advocate for a standardization over to Year/Month/Day, but Day/Month/Year has no practical benefits over Month/Day/Year and is purely an aesthetic preference.
Cries in Earth, Wind, & Fire
 

Pagano

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
378
Germany
I wasn't meaning to single you out, just a trend one observes. I'll be the first to admit we have major issues, ERA just loves to dogpile the US at any chance, over anything. That's cool though, we have our fair share of problems.
I think less people would do it if Americans (of course not all) stopped acting like the US is by far the greatest country on earth.