It's been some 12 years, major DLCs and a remastered edition. What is your "verdict" on Mass Effect 3?
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I did transfer my ME2 character over which does give you a few extra levels early on, but on the highest difficulty it's still pretty rough at times. And I still remembering it being really hard on Insanity originally too.
It's not bad all the time, and I do think the make power combos do more damage which helps a lot, but there's some really tough difficulty spikes, especially near the end.
Developers admitted they were not clever enough to conceived such a good story, so they basically denied it is true.
It's a little worse than ME2 in just about every way, and a lot worse in a couple of key ways. But ME2 is a 10/10 for me, so that's not exactly a damning assessment.
I like it, but it took me a long time to wash out the bitter taste left by the state of the game at launch. I never actually replayed it until the Legendary Edition came out.
I like it, but it took me a long time to wash out the bitter taste left by the state of the game at launch. I never actually replayed it until the Legendary Edition came out.
Yup! I'm right there with you, old friend. More time in the oven could have worked wonders. Considering how relatively little time BioWare was given to deliver, it's a minor miracle that Priority: Tuchanka came together so damn nicely.
Very good game with outrageously strong highs… and some rather vivid flaws.
Mass Effect 3 with all of the DLC is the best game in the series. I love all four games, but playing MELE completely changed my opinion of ME3.
A bad game that destroys the entire series retroactively by existing. In some sense I should've seen ME3 being bad coming, because I thought ME2 was a pointless plot cul-de-sac that accomplished nothing, but I was still shocked by how it absolutely obliterated every single plot point I cared about in the previous two games in favor of some dumb dime-store tech bro philosophy bullshit at the eleventh hour.
And Kai Leng. Ugh.
It's the final season of Game of Thrones in video game form. Unsalvageable.
And Kai Leng. Ugh.
It's the final season of Game of Thrones in video game form. Unsalvageable.
Let's settle down with the spicy ME3 DLC hot takes apparently it's not good and than it's great, mass effect games without their DLCs are a disaster and the reality is DLC is a game's insurance policy the only people dlc upsets are the people who don't buy it.
God I'm curious what they are going to do with the next Mass Effect, being directly connected to the trilogy is going to be so challenging for them
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I just got Javik and the idea that you could play Mass Effect 3 on release without him is simply obscene.
EA was just evil back then. Well, evil-er!
EA was just evil back then. Well, evil-er!
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It's probably closer to 1.5 year than 2. In many ways, it's a miracle that ME3 turned out as good as it did. Look at other "3s" that EA published in the same timeframe: Dead Space 3, Crysis 3. All victims of the same (lack of) vision. Compared to those, ME3 is a timeless masterpiece.
I think its good but its extremely noticeable it was rushed. I think it has some of the franchises highest of highs but also the lowest of lows.
I'm now imagining a universe where ME3 is having its 10 year anniversary this year.
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I had a somewhat different exposure to it, playing it for the first time with the remaster trilogy and playing it immediately back-to-back from the first two. Played it a second time on another save just to have different people alive from past decisions and so I could be as hilariously evil as possible. A few strands of story carried in from 1 and 2 had satisfying endings, others not so much. In the end it's a let down that regardless of what you do you just gain a generic +Power amount counting toward the main story and a list of names on the death board in the end cutscene.
The ending was... meh. Not bad, not good, just meh. And this is the better version! The final mission on Earth and the ending are dramatically underwhelming, and not particularly enjoyable to play through. Screw any thought of an ending where Shepard lives, too. You crashed from a space station that was in orbit, and were dead before it even fell out of orbit. Fuck off, game, fuck you.
The Citadel DLC is the most fan servicey thing ever created for a video game, so much so that it gets a little awkward. Extremely funny, of course. I do give massive credit where due on it for the wide wide range of voice lines and script combinations they had to account for for who was actually alive or not for any given person's game. You really don't get that sort of care and detail very often in a game of this scope. That's true of the entire game and series, but especially here.
Big games just aren't willing to put in the effort to account for so many variables in production, and we may never see anything with the tier of freedom this trilogy had ever again. We're in this sad universe where Starfield is supposedly the tier of characters, writing, and (lack of) decision branching a gigantic developer thinks we should enjoy, puke.
The ending was... meh. Not bad, not good, just meh. And this is the better version! The final mission on Earth and the ending are dramatically underwhelming, and not particularly enjoyable to play through. Screw any thought of an ending where Shepard lives, too. You crashed from a space station that was in orbit, and were dead before it even fell out of orbit. Fuck off, game, fuck you.
The Citadel DLC is the most fan servicey thing ever created for a video game, so much so that it gets a little awkward. Extremely funny, of course. I do give massive credit where due on it for the wide wide range of voice lines and script combinations they had to account for for who was actually alive or not for any given person's game. You really don't get that sort of care and detail very often in a game of this scope. That's true of the entire game and series, but especially here.
Big games just aren't willing to put in the effort to account for so many variables in production, and we may never see anything with the tier of freedom this trilogy had ever again. We're in this sad universe where Starfield is supposedly the tier of characters, writing, and (lack of) decision branching a gigantic developer thinks we should enjoy, puke.
Terrible storywise, every event felt rushed because they had finish every storyline, because they had to for some reason, like, just kill Sheperd and finish his trilogy, but keep the war going, in fact the war should't have even started in that game, most things didn't make sense with that setting, the ending was the least of it's problems.
Sublime multiplayer though, worth it just for it.
Sublime multiplayer though, worth it just for it.
Basically this. Up to the finale, I felt the game was doing a pretty good job of tying up loose ends built over the previous two games, and I would have said was on the same level as the second part. However, the ending as it was originally released was an incoherent rushed mess, and I am not surprised people tried to find alternative explanations. If Leviathan had been in the original game, at least one would have had some context as to what the Reapers were and how it fit with the trilogy's themes.
The ending is the stuff of legends...
Highest highs, lowest lows.
And yeah, Kai "cereal killer" Leng is one of those lows.
Highest highs, lowest lows.
And yeah, Kai "cereal killer" Leng is one of those lows.
I'm playing through it for the first time and it's one of my biggest noticable problems with it so far,
It feels like a straight up linear 3rd person shooter.
Even has the old "helicopter door gunner" sequences...
You literally cant put your gun down anymore if you are walking around or exploring while on a mission.
One of the dumbest changes I've seen in a series
Also that first dude in your squad is a straight up Gears of War character.
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Great game with an an abysmal original ending.
It was modestly improved with the revisions and Citadel, but woof. They missed the mark at launch.
It was modestly improved with the revisions and Citadel, but woof. They missed the mark at launch.
At the end of the day, mass effect 2 and 3 are games they clearly sold pieces of content as DLCs that should've been in the main game. That's how a lot of ppl experienced them and that can't be undone. ME3 is fine. I like ME1 and 2 but I guess I've never been a diehard fan of the series so base ME3 is about what I expected out of it so I played it and moved on like w/ most games.
Great (along with the whole rest of the series) right up until you get to the "choose one of three endings" moment (or get the 4th "I refuse to choose" ending which is the clear "bad ending" and worst of all), and then discover they all suck. Only one (destroy) makes any kind of sense with the narrative at all but does carry all kinds of pain/drawbacks. It kind of feels like a blah "normal ending" that you get in a game if you complete it but forget to do side quests, or made bad choices and the game is trying to tell you that you fucked up), that also has a "true ending" you can get for making the right choices and clearing side content. But there is no True Ending in Mass Effect that feels satisfactory.
And the other two main ending choices are utterly ridiculous, don't fit the tone of the story at all up to this point, and frankly just feel like really bad fanfic, if the gamer chooses them to come to pass.
It makes no sense- especially when the game, had a built-in system that seemed like would be the key to your ending- "war assets" or whatever (been a few years since I last played). You should have won or lost the war (or won with varying degree of losses/galaxy devastation) based on collecting enough war assets- which really was the crux of what you have been doing over three games. So having it all come up more or less meaningless, and everything ending up being shoehorned into one of these very set choices, winds up just being a mass betrayal of all the choice and custom building of "My unique playthrough" that the player has been cultivating over three games.
Still, the journey is still great, even if the ending sucks. Mass Effect three still has some very striking and emotional conclusions to its various arcs- as you determine the fate of the Krogan/Quarians/Geth or what the outcome is with your relationship with various party members. Its just the shame its final minutes and the fate of everyone involved) winds up so incredibly lame.
And the other two main ending choices are utterly ridiculous, don't fit the tone of the story at all up to this point, and frankly just feel like really bad fanfic, if the gamer chooses them to come to pass.
It makes no sense- especially when the game, had a built-in system that seemed like would be the key to your ending- "war assets" or whatever (been a few years since I last played). You should have won or lost the war (or won with varying degree of losses/galaxy devastation) based on collecting enough war assets- which really was the crux of what you have been doing over three games. So having it all come up more or less meaningless, and everything ending up being shoehorned into one of these very set choices, winds up just being a mass betrayal of all the choice and custom building of "My unique playthrough" that the player has been cultivating over three games.
Still, the journey is still great, even if the ending sucks. Mass Effect three still has some very striking and emotional conclusions to its various arcs- as you determine the fate of the Krogan/Quarians/Geth or what the outcome is with your relationship with various party members. Its just the shame its final minutes and the fate of everyone involved) winds up so incredibly lame.
It was pretty good, though it had one big letdown for me. It wasn't the endings (and I played it back in the days before the Extended Cut), and it wasn't Kai Leng.
It was the way the geth were handled in the Rannoch arc.
They Pinocchio'd my robobois when they were perfect the way they were
It was the way the geth were handled in the Rannoch arc.
They Pinocchio'd my robobois when they were perfect the way they were
Just finished it for the first time yesterday.
Ending was kinda disappointing and I didn't like that it went full shooter comparatively but I legitimately loved 3 for the most part.
I think hearing for 12 years it was "worst thing ever" set my expectations well so that honestly it just came in as a slight disappointment
Honestly after marathoning the series over the last few weeks for the first time, I don't even know if I could pick my favorite of the 3, each was so different and had their pros and cons.(maybe 1 has the edge though for the mystery, exploration and I even liked Mako stuff)
Ending was kinda disappointing and I didn't like that it went full shooter comparatively but I legitimately loved 3 for the most part.
I think hearing for 12 years it was "worst thing ever" set my expectations well so that honestly it just came in as a slight disappointment
Honestly after marathoning the series over the last few weeks for the first time, I don't even know if I could pick my favorite of the 3, each was so different and had their pros and cons.(maybe 1 has the edge though for the mystery, exploration and I even liked Mako stuff)