I'm kind of curious but when is the last time you ever had any sort of sustained interaction with a child?
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It's weird that your parents get to choose your name. Should it be the norm for kids to choose their own name when they reach a certain age?
- Thread starter ToddBonzalez
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Parents will sit with their kids and tell them what name they will like the kid to choose, reiterate how important it is for them that they choose it, how sad mommy and daddy will be if they don't, and some maybe imply on top of that how Santa will not be able to find who they are if they chose a name that is not the one expected of them.
Another great point. How do you stop parents from influencing their choice? Kids look up to their parents and are impressionable from their opinion. Many parents will just simply push them in the direction that they want. Just like many do for the career direction of their child.
There's just simply all sorts of reason why the OP's idea just doesn't work.
My parents named me Irie. I had it changed to Irisviel because Irie was the shorthand for Irisviel in an anime I watched and I suddenly felt like my birth name was just a nickname. That was the entire reason, I was a kid and didn't want a nickname or shorthand as my name. I'm 21 now and don't regret it, too many people mispronounced my name as eerie. The most annoying part is my smug parents will still call me by my birth name since it is the shorthand/nickname for my current name.
No. No they aren't. If anything we give them too much credit these days
This sounds like a scheme an AI would come up with based on an extremely vague description of how human relationships work
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I voted yes. And heck I actually did end up changing my name too. I named myself after an anime character I liked. Took a while for my family to get used to it but they were all pretty accepting.
This could easily read as me poking fun at this, but I am genuinely being serious. And I do genuinely believe people should be allowed to choose their own name. The only reason you hit no is because of tradition. I suppose I left out some important story details regarding my story, but I'd rather not talk about certain things about myself you know.
So yeah.
This could easily read as me poking fun at this, but I am genuinely being serious. And I do genuinely believe people should be allowed to choose their own name. The only reason you hit no is because of tradition. I suppose I left out some important story details regarding my story, but I'd rather not talk about certain things about myself you know.
So yeah.
Naming kids numbers instead of letting their mind mature, grow as a person and have the option of freely changing their name when of legal age if they want to.
What the hell am I reading.
What the hell am I reading.
I'm not sure why government even needs to know your name. We have ID numbers for a reason. Changing your name should't even be a process. Just include ID numbers in any important documents and leave it at that. Maybe I feel like a Eustace tomorrow. Maybe I feel like a Pedro next year. Maybe I'll feel like a Working yet? my entire life. I don't need these decisions cemented. I am a bird. Freedom is mine.
Especially wince at 18 people are edgy and dumb. There would be so many people named Shadow and stuff like that walking around if people got to choose
The simple solution is to keep kids and parents seperate from each other for the first 8 years of their life
My parents actually offered me the chance to change my name when I was around 11 years old or so. I thought about it for awhile because I was weirdly self conscious about my name at the time, even though it's a very normal ass name, but I ended up deciding to keep my name.
I've grown to like my name, because even though it's a normal ass name, it's at least way less common than shit ultra common names like John, Robert, Brian, etc.
I've grown to like my name, because even though it's a normal ass name, it's at least way less common than shit ultra common names like John, Robert, Brian, etc.
Prestige has nothing to do with it. It's about the identity that you choose for yourself which should ultimately be your own choice. A name is a powerful identifier as it's probably the most common word that people will use to describe or adress you. It's not weird at all to want to have some kind of influence over that word.
At the moment, 12 years old can easily change their name without parents/guardians approval, but it costs 55€. I think the first change should be available for free.
I hit 'no' partially because you are still free to do exactly what you did at a point when you were able to make a conscious decision about it.
Smart does not have much to do with here. Kids inherently lack the ability to perceive long term ramifications because they haven't been alive for more than a couple of years. 1 year feels like an eternity when you are a kid let alone understand the scale of a lifetime...even if you you know how many years that can be in terms of pure numbers.
This was pretty common in East Asia.
en.m.wikipedia.org
It was very common for people to have two or three names back then. Their birth name, childhood name, their adult name, maybe their pen name, and some were even given a religious name as they were given up for "adoption" to a certain god so they were bestowed protection.
en.m.wikipedia.org
Even the first leader of the Republic of China (Taiwan) Chiang Kai-shek had several names and Kai-shek isn't even his birth name. Most of the time he is referred to as Chiang Chung-cheng in Chinese. It's only in English language books and academia that the Kai-shek name is used more often.
Courtesy name - Wikipedia
It was very common for people to have two or three names back then. Their birth name, childhood name, their adult name, maybe their pen name, and some were even given a religious name as they were given up for "adoption" to a certain god so they were bestowed protection.
Chiang Kai-shek - Wikipedia
Even the first leader of the Republic of China (Taiwan) Chiang Kai-shek had several names and Kai-shek isn't even his birth name. Most of the time he is referred to as Chiang Chung-cheng in Chinese. It's only in English language books and academia that the Kai-shek name is used more often.
You genuinely have no business talking about children and their development then.
No it's not.
people already do this now, naming themselves as they see fit if it's discordant with their own self identity. Already a mechanism to even legally change one's name, although that could certainly be a cheaper process.
vast majority of people are fine with their given names, so this seems like a convoluted solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
vast majority of people are fine with their given names, so this seems like a convoluted solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
Why are you and all your friends named after renaissance painters?
Though as someone posted above, it's not uncommon in other historical cultures. The names in Three Kingdoms era china are interesting, since courtesy naming works a little differently to western ideas of nicknames and formal names.
And nobles seemed to collect new names like pokemon in Sengoku period Japan.
Though as someone posted above, it's not uncommon in other historical cultures. The names in Three Kingdoms era china are interesting, since courtesy naming works a little differently to western ideas of nicknames and formal names.
And nobles seemed to collect new names like pokemon in Sengoku period Japan.
At 8 years old? No
At 18 and older? Yes. You should be encouraged to change your name free of charge/hassle if you dont like the one you were given.
At 18 and older? Yes. You should be encouraged to change your name free of charge/hassle if you dont like the one you were given.
I want to name my kid Vercingetorix and my wife is like what is that? And I'm all that's the dude who almost didn't entirely get his ass whooped by Julius Caesar. She goes why name our kid after a loser? I say because it sounds badass.
Interesting concept. A lot of people I've talked to felt that by the time they were 18, whatever name they were given at birth had grown on them and become assimilated into their identity. And most of those that still hated theirs indeed changed it. So I wonder if things would be all that different in your scenario. Not to mention the incredible inconvenience of having to re-educate everyone you've ever known.
I mean, you can choose your own name when you reach a certain age, where I am, as long as you pay the fee and do all the work for it, you can change it at 16. That's the age.
Lol as many others pointed out, kids would name themselves narutosaksuke69 if they had the chance which is worse than anything a parent could come up with -for the most part-.
Kids do choose their own names all the time. It used to be nicknames, but nowadays its kids' online handles. Equally they also have the choice to be known by their actual name.
What you're describing is formalising this in to a system where kids are forced to make a decision about their legal name, when they may not want to, and also forcing kids under a certain age to be called Child49, Child76.
It seems like you think this is giving people freedom of choice, but actually what you're describing is something you'd find in a dystopian nightmare.
What you're describing is formalising this in to a system where kids are forced to make a decision about their legal name, when they may not want to, and also forcing kids under a certain age to be called Child49, Child76.
It seems like you think this is giving people freedom of choice, but actually what you're describing is something you'd find in a dystopian nightmare.
If you wanna call yourself ToddBonzalez, go head!
Unless it's a bad meaning, I think just keep the name. Oh, or if your name comes from a bad place e.g. your parent was shit but you have their last name, I get wanting to change there too.
I'd pick a crap name for myself and never be satisfied. I probably wouldn't have picked my current name! And for that, I love my name as it is. No change for me please.
Unless it's a bad meaning, I think just keep the name. Oh, or if your name comes from a bad place e.g. your parent was shit but you have their last name, I get wanting to change there too.
I'd pick a crap name for myself and never be satisfied. I probably wouldn't have picked my current name! And for that, I love my name as it is. No change for me please.
People without children, who have no interaction with children or never played a videogame online.
All the people talking about being able to change names once its legal for them are forgetting that in many places it is deliberately hard to get a name change done.
I for one think that everyone should be allowed a free name change at 25. It also just shouldn't be so many damn hoops to jump through for it under other circumstances.
I for one think that everyone should be allowed a free name change at 25. It also just shouldn't be so many damn hoops to jump through for it under other circumstances.
That "some person" being the person who formed you and gave you life :P
I chose my own name when I was 10. It's not on my legal paperwork, but no one I know calls me my legal name except some people at work who've only ever seen my paperwork, or my doctor's office.
You can just choose your name and tell people to call you it... Short of attempting fraud or identity theft, no one's going to be bothered by it.
Not sure how that changes the point.
You can just choose your name and tell people to call you it... Short of attempting fraud or identity theft, no one's going to be bothered by it.
Not sure how that changes the point.
If my parents gave me life, I should have the decency to carry the name they gave me, unless I hate the name or have zero connection to my parents. Letting kids or teens choose their name doesn't sound wise. I would have named myself after my favorite food or cartoon character. Imagine all the people named Super Mario we'd have in the world if this was a thing from 30 years ago. We would have had the great Ma-ri-oh vs Marry-oh pronunciation debate in our everyday lives.
<_< not going to say adults are that much better about this...
'Game of Thrones' baby names are surging in popularity
Shockingly people aren't naming their children after Cersei
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I'm surprised so many people are against this. I guess that it's easier to assume most people will be stupid picking their own names as opposed to picking someone else's name.
Or it's just that thing again with "it's always been like this, I don't like the idea of it not being like this". Also "the person who gave you life" lmao what a ridiculous argument. There's not special merit to raising your own child you know? That's like, the bare minimum you should do since once you decide to have one. They don't actually literally own you for it.
Or it's just that thing again with "it's always been like this, I don't like the idea of it not being like this". Also "the person who gave you life" lmao what a ridiculous argument. There's not special merit to raising your own child you know? That's like, the bare minimum you should do since once you decide to have one. They don't actually literally own you for it.