Japanese TV show featuring blackface actor sparks anger
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Blackface threads used to be a graveyard back in NeoGAF, I hope that isn't the case here. Several people in several countries ignore what Blackface really entails, it seems to be more prominent in the US and I too used to overlook it and ignore its background, which is why I believe that only criticizing people for doing Blackface and asking them to stop it isn't enough, educate them as to what its background is and why it is really offensive, I'm sure more people will be willing to understand if you explain it to them.
yeah i really hope that...
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A ton of people believe this, either in order to justify liking racist and sexist garbage, or because they're off the deep end regarding cultural relativity.
But it's true. So you support imperialism, I suppose?
The blackface is still dumb, though.
A lot of Japanese citizens don't know about the history of blackface and don't find it offensive. That said, it would be good if there was more education/public awareness on this, especially as Japan continues to participate in global politics.
Looking at the rest of the article posted, it looks like some expatriates are protesting this, and not Japanese nationals.
Probably because the blackface was to express the idea that he was playing eddy murphy rather than just going "lol, black people", mind you not that it makes it any less worse, just more about it being born out of horrifying ignorance.
It's kinda what happens when you live in a largely mono-race country, you absolutely have no tact regarding other races.
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No they're not. Regardless of what you tell some people, they will always think slapping on some shoe polish is perfectly acceptable.
This shit has been explained ad nauseam and to be perfectly honest, "ignorance" is not a valid excuse in the age of the internet. So... fuck these people.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture, but honor and blackface are huge parts of it
Deplorable and sadly, not even surprising.
His name escapes me, but isn't there a popular black comedian who regularly appears on a well-known Japanese tv program who speaks fluent Japanese?
Why didn't they get him to impersonate Eddie Murphy instead?
His name escapes me, but isn't there a popular black comedian who regularly appears on a well-known Japanese tv program who speaks fluent Japanese?
Why didn't they get him to impersonate Eddie Murphy instead?
Japanese being politically incorrect and insensitive and ignorant to people outside their own culture? You don't say.
I dont remember his name but he's part of the Downtown comedy group best known for Silent LibraryImperial Bishop said:
Is using masks the same as painting your face or is that ok?
Something like this
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I see someone threw out that "Accurate as possible" BS in that article. If you can't get your point across with just the clothes, mannerisms, and catch phrases of the character you're trying to portray then you need to find a new line of work.
So blackface is dumb but thinking others should think it is dumb is imperialism?
From what I've seen of black actors in live-action Japanese shows, quite often they play them up as well---like they have them purposefully misuse Japanese or talk in an immediately odd way.
Although to be fair they seem to love to do that with non-Japanese actors in general. Though it seems like they take things a bit too further with black actors like having them basically grunt or just not talk.
Although to be fair they seem to love to do that with non-Japanese actors in general. Though it seems like they take things a bit too further with black actors like having them basically grunt or just not talk.
Is it really a case of blackface? I mean, in this BBC article it says "Using makeup to lampoon black people - a practice known as blackface". Did he made fun of black people? Played on stereotypes etc? Or just played Eddie Murphy playing Axel Foley.
There's this popular tv format (existing in countless countries around the world) called "Your Face Sounds Familiar". Bassicaly a tv show where celebirities pretend to be famous singers, not just with voices, but they actually try to get as close as possible visually, pretending to be woman or using make up to appear black, so you got thing like this:
There's no comedy or carricature there. Is that still blackface?
There's this popular tv format (existing in countless countries around the world) called "Your Face Sounds Familiar". Bassicaly a tv show where celebirities pretend to be famous singers, not just with voices, but they actually try to get as close as possible visually, pretending to be woman or using make up to appear black, so you got thing like this:
There's no comedy or carricature there. Is that still blackface?
Yeah, same here. A few years ago there was a guy on TV who did impersonations of Obama. People watched it, and laughed.
I knew this would blow up on GAF when I saw it.
Basically, they were doing a theme of 'American Cops' with their rather stale annual new years special and as a joke one of the two guys from Downtown (Hamada) came out as Eddie Murphy from Beverly Hills Cop. Wasn't really handled in a mean way, but if they are going to borrow American culture they should at least have some respect for our people and history, I think. That's what we would expect from any other 1st world nation, after all.
They were supposed to end this special a few years ago, but they keep doing it. Everybody kinda going through the motions. The biggest problem is that the original premise is kinda lost now. So, it's just like a chore that rewards people who are heavily invested in the comedian's professional and personal lives... think like those youtubers who focus on 'drama.'
Basically, they were doing a theme of 'American Cops' with their rather stale annual new years special and as a joke one of the two guys from Downtown (Hamada) came out as Eddie Murphy from Beverly Hills Cop. Wasn't really handled in a mean way, but if they are going to borrow American culture they should at least have some respect for our people and history, I think. That's what we would expect from any other 1st world nation, after all.
They were supposed to end this special a few years ago, but they keep doing it. Everybody kinda going through the motions. The biggest problem is that the original premise is kinda lost now. So, it's just like a chore that rewards people who are heavily invested in the comedian's professional and personal lives... think like those youtubers who focus on 'drama.'
Is this a "cultural thing" where people pretend they don't know any better?
Would this dude be ok with someone painting his skin yellow and putting tape on his eyes? I doubt it.
Would this dude be ok with someone painting his skin yellow and putting tape on his eyes? I doubt it.
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There's this popular tv format (existing in countless countries around the world) called "Your Face Sounds Familiar". Bassicaly a tv show where celebirities pretend to be famous singers, not just with voices, but they actually try to get as close as possible visually, pretending to be woman or using make up to appear black, so you got thing like this:
Is that blackface?
Not black myself, but I would say yes as painting your face black isn't necessary at all.
So before some idiot pulls the "It's not blackface because they don't have the exaggerated lips and eyes." nonsense.
All of this shit is blackface and so is the shit in the OP.
Fuck you in advance.
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Too late, some genius pulled this shit already.
All of this shit is blackface and so is the shit in the OP.
Fuck you in advance.
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Too late, some genius pulled this shit already.
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Ive seen like 4 people mention this, all foreigners. Don't think natives care that much, or know it's offensive.
lol so true. Just stop this and kohaku.
lol so true. Just stop this and kohaku.
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This is a silly false equivalence. You can critique fucked up things other cultures do both in context of your own and their values. The options for discourse aren't limited to imperialism or cultural relativist chaos. It's a spectrum. Your argument just tries to sidestep the issue.
Is it really a case of blackface? I mean, in this BBC article it says "Using makeup to lampoon black people - a practice known as blackface". Did he made fun of black people? Played on stereotypes etc? Or just played Eddie Murphy playing Axel Foley.
There's this popular tv format (existing in countless countries around the world) called "Your Face Sounds Familiar". Bassicaly a tv show where celebirities pretend to be famous singers, not just with voices, but they actually try to get as close as possible visually, pretending to be woman or using make up to appear black, so you got thing like this:
There's no comedy or carricature there. Is that still blackface?
If you can't pull off axel folly without blackface it's bad period
I don't think it's the same guy who mentioned, but this is who I was referring to (Ike Nwala).
He even impersonates Tiger Woods in the video.
I remember getting time off school so I could wear blackface and give candy to schoolmates. I wonder if they still have "zwarte piet" like that in schools nowadays
I think they would be okay with it more than you'd think. In my experiences, Japanese people feel about being Japanese the same way white people feel about being white. Like when Dave Chappele does his white-person impression in white makeup. It *IS* offensive, and it probably *IS* harmful to everyone, but there wasn't much of a public outcry from white people.
Not to generalize, though. But, if we are going to generalize, I think that might be part of it. A lot of white people don't understand why blackface hurts one group more than another. "I didn't get mad when Chappelle made fun of us! Why can't they get over it!?" To me, it's like the same way that Boston people laugh off when people make fun of them but it cuts real deep when people make fun of us in KY/WV, because the stereotypes are far more harmful to us than to a lesser privileged group.
I say, send them to the Democratic Republic of Congo. Let's see how funny racism is then.