PlayStation 5 matches the price of the Xbox Series X
Sony opts not to undercut its rival this time round but instead will rely on exclusives to woo gamers.
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Interesting little nugget in this BBC article.
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Jim Ryan: PlayStation about big blockbuster games that cost a lot to make, Game Pass model would not make financial sense
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Said it before, but glad to see it confirmed.
Game Pass styled sub on PS5 would neuter Sony's profits for these big titles enormously.
EDIT: because it needs to be clarified for some
I don't give a damn how Sony does financially.
I do give a damn about getting the type of games I want and I feel a Game Pass type subscription would kill off the type of AAA productions i've come to love from Sony.
Game Pass styled sub on PS5 would neuter Sony's profits for these big titles enormously.
EDIT: because it needs to be clarified for some
I don't give a damn how Sony does financially.
I do give a damn about getting the type of games I want and I feel a Game Pass type subscription would kill off the type of AAA productions i've come to love from Sony.
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Jim Ryan is about that Hollywood PR with action set pieces which is nice and all but the minute a bean counter shows them a path to gamepass that profits consistent revenue and profit they'll be taking that
So it's safe to assume that almost every big PlayStation game is costing more than 100~150 million to produce?
And Forza... got to love the near annual Forza franchise. Hopefully Fable joins those ranks as well.
He's said it in the past regarding day 1 PSNow, so not surprising, games like GoW or TLoU 2 with no additional money streams besides buy the game would be losing hundreds of millions overall.
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I believe it. GamePass hasn't proved otherwise so far and it's years away from potentially doing so.
On the other hand, if GamePass manages to reach a certain threshold (30+ million?) without doing insane offers (many months have been available for a dollar basically) then the scenario will turn as it will be a serious cash flow.
On the other hand, if GamePass manages to reach a certain threshold (30+ million?) without doing insane offers (many months have been available for a dollar basically) then the scenario will turn as it will be a serious cash flow.
Because I want these big AAA experiences? Like TLOU2, Ghost of Tsushima, Spider-Man, God of War etc.
Game Pass for Sony would slowly kill off games like that in favour of lower cost, multiplayer focused, MTX riddled games instead.
it's only 7 days difference. Get over it, man. I'm in singapore and going by inventory assignments, they are definitely not going to get alot of PS5 here and even i am not complaining.
It's not like it's a month or two. ONE WEEK! 7 DAYS! How hard is it?
I mean it's totally true. I buy every big first party exclusive on Playstation systems. If they were on a Sony version of game pass I would just sub to that and never buy em at all. Sonys getting more money out of me this way.
Because he wants Sony to continue to make major AAA exclusives?
It's not only that. The only way to include blockbuster first party games day 1 is by making them GaaS in some capacity or at least have an extensive multiplayer component with MTX. Sony is primarily focusing on single player experiences thus a GamePass model would be a disaster (unless priced at $59 per month). Having said that, they could definitely do a service with slightly older games that are still relevant (similar to PS plus collection but for current gen games).
I don't give a damn how Sony does financially.
I do give a damn about getting the type of games I want and I feel a Game Pass type subscription would kill off the type of AAA productions i've come to love from Sony.
I'm talking about the extra 10 bucks they slapped on every game but hey go to bat for your friends at sony
Aside from Forza , what else is there? Hellblade 2 is the first 1st party output of Ninja Theory so that is still unproven. Fable reboot is a long ways off. I'm talking about expensive AAA games. They have cool AA ones liek state of decay and ori
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For sure. MS is currently strategically loss-leading, building the service as their core focus. They don't have as much to lose by going all in on Game Pass, they can be more nimble that way especially as the MS business is also not so reliant on the Xbox division financially.
But for Sony, it's a very different situation. It would be like HBO switching all their focus on the Netflix model back in the day. Like Sony, they dip their toe in the water instead so they can react if and when necessary to potential market shifts, but ultimately can continue with their traditional model thanks to the strength of their content.
Its pretty obvious that what is good for cheepskates is not in the interest of company selling these. Coz if You pay less they get paid less.
Pretty sure all major publishers will slap on extra 10 bucks for next gen titles.
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Thiss is also true. Sony has few mtx games from their studios which definitely helps subsidize Game Pass games
IMO, this is the wrong move. Blockbuster games are becoming un-sustainable in the amount of people it takes to make them, the toll making these games have on these people and the price the user has to pay to play them. And on top of all that, you have huge successes (both in sales and in quality) in games like Fall Guys and various indie games that are made by teams and budgets fraction of the size of blockbuster games.
I think we'll see Sony changing this tune somewhat as the gen progresses and the reality of recession becoming clearer.
I think we'll see Sony changing this tune somewhat as the gen progresses and the reality of recession becoming clearer.
Unlike the US this is the second price hike within a generation.
Europeans now have to pay 94$ for a game for no reason other than extra profits
Activision and 2K are actually cheaper than sony games now
People don't think Flight simulator was expensive and isn't AAA? It's probably the most graphically impressive game currently on the market.
Expected, I guess it's the only PR speak that makes sense for Sony as of today.
Let's see how this stance evolves in a couple of years with the releases of big budget, next gen only XGS games.
Then again, I'm (genuinely) curious to know what exactly defines a "big blockbuster game".
Let's see how this stance evolves in a couple of years with the releases of big budget, next gen only XGS games.
Then again, I'm (genuinely) curious to know what exactly defines a "big blockbuster game".
I honestly believe it.
Interested to see if once Xboxs first party studios start cranking out games if it ever changes. They really ballooned their studio count.
Not gonna lie, I agree with you. I don't think Sony would be able to continue to produce the games they do under a subscription.
Interested to see if once Xboxs first party studios start cranking out games if it ever changes. They really ballooned their studio count.
Not gonna lie, I agree with you. I don't think Sony would be able to continue to produce the games they do under a subscription.
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Imagine your a publisher/developer
Do you spend tens of MILLIONS making a game that takes 5-6 years to produce and only turns an income for a short period before dropping in price that has no way to get further money from gamers?
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Do you spend much, MUCH less on a game that takes a year or two to produce that turns a HUGE profit and can be riddled with MTX and DLC and battle Passes to keep money rolling in for longer?
on a game pass type subscription especially the choice would be VERY clear for coporations, you go the cheaper but bigger return route.
But would lower budget games be such a bad thing? Wasteland 3 is one of the best RPG's out there today and its on gamepass day 1. I do not believe that Gamepass will take away from the AAA experiences, I believe it will inspire more creative freedom.
When businesses go all in for profits, they tend to play it safe. Not saying Sony won't take risks but their focus is more on profits, where as microsofts is more on the "Value".
