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Jon Bernthal to alt-right Punisher fans: "Fuck them."

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According to Bernthal, he's proud to play a character whose symbol appears on the jackets and helmets of American soldiers fighting in foreign countries. But his response to marchers at the "alt-right" protests in Charlottesville last year, who were also seen with the Punisher's symbol on their jackets, was a lot less diplomatic:

"Fuck them," Bernthal said.
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Thank you Jon. When I see Blue Lives Matter flags pasted onto the Punisher logo as a bumper sticker, I always think about how idiotic it is. You.... Do know he's willing to kill cops right?
 
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Never understand how those people always fail to understand how heroes are LITERALLY SJWs

On a kinda related note, I found really interesting how the series portraied the NRA fans ...
 
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He seems like a great guy.

He gets fired up in this interview where he talks about working with Kevin Spacey
 
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Even a righteous Punisher IRL. Cant wait for Season 2, he played it so well.
Also the Punisher logo is badass, so why alt-righters in Charlottesville would use it.. They are anything but ''badass'', so they literally do nothing right here.

But sadly for Jon, i can only be fan of one of em. (Dark1x) ;)
 
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Nice :>

...Reminds me that I need to finish watching the Punisher, too. Really enjoying it, so far :>

Edit: Except that bit of story with Karen as per post above me :(
 
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dietpepsi said:
How did it portray NRA fans?
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The one I'm thinking of was a character who was a coward who hid behind bluster about a "true war" coming that people would need to get ready for. A propagandist who feared police and basically rarely shut up and tried to manipulate another character into joining his cause despite knowing how emotionally unstable said character was. Inched very close to "race war" territory.
 
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Shroki said:
The show had a blustering Senator who wanted to take away the guns get put into his place by major Netflix MCU character Karen Page, who was basically arguing with NRA talking points about guns making people feel safe on the streets or some shit.
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To be fair, the old guy in the soldier group therapy turned out to be just an NRA nut who's pretending to be a hero when he's just pathetic and winds up getting killed.
 
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Shroki said:
The show had a blustering Senator who wanted to take away the guns get put into his place by major Netflix MCU character Karen Page, who was basically arguing with NRA talking points about guns making people feel safe on the streets or some shit.
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On the other hand, they portrayed the actual NRA cap-wearing and pamphlet-handing vet to be a bigoted slob coasting on stolen valor.
 
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Shroki said:
The show had a blustering Senator who wanted to take away the guns get put into his place by major Netflix MCU character Karen Page, who was basically arguing with NRA talking points about guns making people feel safe on the streets or some shit.
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And at the same time a NRA fat liar who attends veteran meetings and basically brings an impressionable kid to terrorism

edit : triple beaten =O
 

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I think you three quoted me at the exact same time and broke the alert system lol.

I saw that character more as a commentary against racist shit-heels than the NRA itself. I'm not even sure I would call The Punisher pro-gun based on that Karen thing because Karen is portrayed as on shakey moral ground for a lot of Punisher and Daredevil.

I was definitely turned off by that segment, though. Stuff like The Punisher and Death Wish has a real window to validate nutjobs who misunderstand that what's been portrayed is an ugly extreme and not something the writers necessarily feel is moral.
 

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Shroki said:
The show had a blustering Senator who wanted to take away the guns get put into his place by major Netflix MCU character Karen Page, who was basically arguing with NRA talking points about guns making people feel safe on the streets or some shit.
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Just about the only part of the show I felt was awful. I think the original intent was to portray the stereotype, all politicians are lying scumbag, but making the only anti-gun person in the show, in a show that heavily enforced the view that guns are a necessary way to fight injustice, to be a coward and liar...Yeah that was a bit much.

Otherwise the show was good and Jon response to the Alt-Right is perfect.
 
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Rymuth said:
To be fair, the old guy in the soldier group therapy turned out to be just an NRA nut who's pretending to be a hero when he's just pathetic and winds up getting killed.
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He was more than just a NRA but, he had massive issues he brought home with him from over seas

Edit: Oops wrong character never mind, was thinking of the young kid
 
The Artisan

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Eminem did something similar and his album flopped. But his album also sucked, I haven't seen all of Punisher
 
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KarneeKarnay said:
Just about the only part of the show I felt was awful. I think the original intent was to portray the stereotype, all politicians are lying scumbag, but making the only anti-gun person in the show, in a show that heavily enforced the view that guns are a necessary way to fight injustice, to be a coward and liar...Yeah that was a bit much.

Otherwise the show was good and Jon response to the Alt-Right is perfect.
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Same here. That was a really strange inclusion. They made him out to be a hypocrite as well. It was strange.

Slayven said:
Alt right punisher fans don't scare me

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Those probably make up a significant number of the alt-right Punisher fans
 
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Good for him. Not sure how anyone who's actually read the comics would think that The Punisher would agree with their views. Hell, I'm not sure why they would think that Marvel would give such a character his own book for the past, what, 30 years. Oh wait, they're morons. That explains it.
 
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I never been able to fuck with the punisher because it resonates with such a fucked up mentality
 

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People that believe Punisher holds the same alt right views as them remind me of the movie Falling Down with the Nazi believing that Douglas's character hold the same views as him.
 
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Soo...
Reading through the comments of the YouTube video..
I find out this dude is literally family with Kurt Angle. He married Erin Angle. I had no idea!
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Sorry, I can't endorse him, american soldiers in foreign countries are not something to be proud of if you live outside of America
 
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It's been co-opted by Kyle's fans since his use of it as his personal logo became widely known. Around the time the first movie hit people started messing around with the logo and his involvement popularized it.

I know I, personally, never saw it used by military or police before that despite growing up with multiple members of my family either in the service or in law enforcement, but that was mainly in the '80s and '90s.
 
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Punisher in Season 2 needs to kill some cops and joke, "Guess Blue Lives Don't Matter after all"

The reactions would be delicious.
 
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