That's quite the simplification of everything within Phantom Thread though. There are way more interesting gender dynamics at play there too.
Jordan Peele on not casting white dudes as leads in his films going forward: "Not that I don't like white dudes, but I've seen that movie"
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That continental breakfast was so hilarious but very very eerie
Sounds fine to me. There aren't enough minority lead movies or movies that are for that demographic. Why is anyone upset over this? Let people have something that actually caters to them. Carry on dude I'll continue catching your movies lol
This line of thinking is exactly WHY Hollywood put White Male leads in these roles over other ethnic/social groups, but as other posters have pointed out, this line of thinking was a myth/hasn't been based in any reality for a long time. So yes, we can "blame them" for believing false information and making it harder for non White males in Hollywood/making it difficult for non White male TV/movie watchers to find representation all over the world.
His movies, his choice. No problem with that. He also cast Tim Heidecker in Us and that flat out rules.
True, and it's certainly interesting for those gender dynamics to be explored, but I don't see why Jordan Peele needs to be the one to explore white-male gender dynamics, when he can explore racial and society dynamics that haven't really been explored in film.
Get Out was so fresh because it explored racial dynamics that haven't really been addressed in film.
Oh he doesn't I wasn't arguing that. Just addressing the Phantom Thread aspect of that back and forth.
I definitely support Peele making original films in whatever manner he wants.
Villeneuve did have Incendies which was mostly Middle Eastern people. It's an excellent movie.
But he has been falling into more Hollywood stuff lately. Not that I don't like American white people, but I have seen that movie.
All you're saying is true and making his leads all-black is a great decision. "I've seen that movie" because the cast is white is still a dumb thing to say.
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I don't understand. He makes his own movies the way he wants to make them and it's fine, which it is. I am all for artists creating their own vision.
But when an artist makes characters who's boobs are too big, even if it's it's their vision, people crawl all over them for seeing their character that certain way and they have to represented in a certain way that pleases everyone rather than just themselves.
But when an artist makes characters who's boobs are too big, even if it's it's their vision, people crawl all over them for seeing their character that certain way and they have to represented in a certain way that pleases everyone rather than just themselves.
I think it gets the point across in the most succinct manner possible.
If only people with big boobs were an oppressed minority group that rarely gets the lead in films. This is a terrible analogy.
The artist's vision is banal. There's nothing special about having an idea or making something that protects you from feedback.
I love facts.
I also love Jordan Peele.
I also love black people.
I also love Get Out and Us.
I also love facts.
[God, I love facts]
I also love Jordan Peele.
I also love black people.
I also love Get Out and Us.
I also love facts.
[God, I love facts]
I love that they directly compared mass media representation for underrepresented groups and character's with huge boobs as equally artistic.
The people who feel slighted by this will just have to settle for most other films having white leads.
Peele's casting has been stellar. He is now one of my favorite filmakers.
Peele's casting has been stellar. He is now one of my favorite filmakers.
I didn't think I could see a worse take on this. Thank you for proving me wrong.
No problem with that
all I care about is if the movie is good and so far he's got a good track record
all I care about is if the movie is good and so far he's got a good track record
Ah yes, that classic comparison of trying to prop up and support marginalized groups vs. crassly objectifying women.
Congrats on really exposing the hypocrisy of it all...
I personally don't care who is doing the acting as long as the movies is good. It's his show and he can do what he wants with it. In other words, this does not bother me a bit.
It's already ok for them to do all white casts, for some people variety, or the way things look in the real world are just more interesting. For example I know it make sense for the new Quinten Tarrentino movie to seem to have an all white cast (I have only seen the trailer) but I'm just not interested in it at all so far. Mostly because it seem to be about Hollywood, a true story that don't interest me, and a seemingly all white cast. All of that together just has nothing to grab my attention, maybe the next trailer will have some awesome action and stunts to make me raise an eyebrow (speaking of eyebrow, that new Hobbs & Shaw movie had my interest). I did like the first few seasons of Mad Men, and some of How I Met Your Mother though (I should have known they would never really tell how he met her until the series has already overstayed it's welcome. I should google who it was actually). To me Living Single > Friends.
About Quinten's new movie, I didn't know what some other people were thinking about the cast before typing up my response. Checking to see if it was indeed an all white cast I saw the article on the responses from twitter. I have no idea what this true story is about, I don't remember the name of the real person, or his stunt double. It's what Quinten want's to do, I just hope his movie after it isn't based on a true story again and is something I'm interested in. If not, oh well.
The internet is helping but as long as we live in this capitalist system, especially one as unequal as this the benefits will always go to whites. Whites own the studios, the casting companies, are the directors, the lighting/camera people, and basically all aspects of the industry (and most industries to be fair). They may give little handouts to other races and even if they make good money on their movies the furthest consistency in terms of "minorities" they will go is white women.
I would be rich if I had a dollar for every people saying 'forced diversity' unironically, directly to me. Well maybe not rich but I would have a lot of bucks.
A Jordan Peele reboot with a black RoboCop killing white civilians during traffic stops and whatnot would be maximum 2019 America.
Why don't big boobed women get enough representation though? I really want to dig into this travesty.