https://clips.twitch.tv/CrypticMist...tent=player_twitch_logo&tt_medium=clips_embed
Day before he tweeted her lol
Holy shit lmao
https://clips.twitch.tv/CrypticMist...tent=player_twitch_logo&tt_medium=clips_embed
Day before he tweeted her lol
This post is incredibly misleading, disingenuous, and needlessly inflammatory. You really sold your argument there.Wow, better off working somewhere else if there going to be fired because some troll won't shut the fuck up about how to make dialogue branches in games, this sad bastard probably scratches his balls all day and closest he could ever get to working on a game is crying on the reddit page
so again, the idea that it's worse to say that sexism has happened somewhere in the world than to actually harass someone and get them firedHe wasn't simply defending her in a neutral position. He double downed on her accusations of it being a gender issue.
She is the one that pulled out the gender card and she got called out on it by the community, and gaming communities at large. You can't make baseless accusations like that and not expect to get hit back. The toxic bs you're seeing now didn't come until after the firings.
Sure, I agree there but you see that everywhere not just on gaming communities.For what it's worth, having seen this situation play out tons of times before on the developer side, while this kind of incredibly ignorant type of "feedback" gets sent at both men and women pretty much all day, peoples' reaction to a developer basically telling them off (which is not actually that rare) definitely varies based on gender. That is super obvious.
The whataboutism is real here.
Also, are you implying they don't get their fair share of shit?
So what's up with the title? GG-pressured firing? Huh? Reading through this thread I get the opposite feeling of that. They reacted to an employee acting like an ass towards a customer, a famous one inside the community, while speaking on social media while addressing her self with the name of the developer. Anyone should see how this is grounds for firing. Calling it gamergate pressured is just reaching for something that isn't there.
Sure, I agree there but you see that everywhere not just on gaming communities.
A dev telling you to fuck off is one thing, and like you said, happens all the time. A dev pulling out the gender card, accusing an Anet partner of being a sexist, ontop of insulting the entire community is a different beast.
The whataboutism is real here.
Also, are you implying they don't get their fair share of shit?
I don't see that in the Google cache.He wasn't simply defending her in a neutral position. He double downed on her accusations of it being a gender issue.
Wow, better off working somewhere else if there going to be fired because some troll won't shut the fuck up about how to make dialogue branches in games, this sad bastard probably scratches his balls all day and closest he could ever get to working on a game is crying on the reddit page
I've just felt like I've seen many posts that are implying that him offering his feedback, in itself, was condescending and wrong and I think I've ever seen people say he can't be a feminist for it.I mean you're ALLOWED to engage 100% of the time. Just be ready for them to not give the response you were expecting. The easiest way to know if they'll give you a nice response is if they're asking a nonrhetorical question.
You open a public account on Twitter, state that you work for a game developer, and start interacting with its players — you're customer-facing, regardless of whether it's in your job description.Even if her response is bad, I don't think she's supposed to be in a customer-facing position, is she? This feels more in the territory of a person overreacting than something that would make me go "wow, I can't believe they hired this person". She was just rude.
I tried to look at the original Reddit thing but it's not loading for me. I'm wondering exactly what the reaction that the fandom had was, and if it looked different before it hit KotakuInAction.
The simple solution is not to engage. If you're broadcasting on a public platform, I don't think any reasonable person can have an expectation that they won't get shout backs or that the default position is "I never want to hear any feedback."I've just felt like I've seen many posts that are implying that him offering his feedback, in itself, was condescending and wrong and I think I've ever seen people say he can't be a feminist for it.
I'm really fucking conflicted about that idea. On one hand you can be a professional in writing like you can be at anything else, but on the other hand it's about a video game that is dynamically changing and the person who's giving feedback is someone your company is officially affiliated with as a content creator. I'm unsure if in creative arts, your (layman) audience's feedback has more value than in a technical field, or if it can be dismissed in much the same way.
I mean, it's bloody feedback and a respectful request for discussion, but on the other hand a professional not wanting to discuss the technicals with an ameteur is also sensible.
how many female ceos are there, and to what extent is that proportion indicative of structural sexism?There's no underpinnings of structural sexism if people believe both male and female CEOs
The tweet from the partner is sexist. It's casual sexism instead of overt sexism, but it's still sexism. Correctly pointing that out shouldn't be grounds for being fired.
Yep. It could have been a one-off incident but Anet cowed to a mob.If Gamergate was pressing them, then Gamergate was pressuring them, regardless of whether you think it's justified or not.
So it's okay? Then Kamiya is an apt comparison. Price's twitter bio is this:
Abso-fucking-lutely. There is zero (0) evidence that the firings were driven by internal concerns and lots and lots of evidence that they were a capitulation made in hopes of sating an organized harassment campaign. The motive is understandable but it was deeply stupid as well as the wrong thing to do. Unfortunately, Arenanet will not be the only developers or studios who end up paying dearly for this mistake.
The title makes it seem like it is fact. It is not. We have no idea if they reacted to GamerGate and not just fired her over employee breaches.If Gamergate was pressing them, then Gamergate was pressuring them, regardless of whether you think it's justified or not.