Agreed. Bump the 360, OG Xbox and ps4 down a spot. It's too soon for a definite ps5 but I would put that at a B so far.
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Linus Tech Tips ranks almost every game console released
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As someone who used to be an avid follower of his content, yeah. Hard to forgive how he abused his workers, Madison especially.
Vectrex was the very first system I ever played on. Hardly ever hear or see its name.its not a bad list tbh. very reasonable
he didnt rank the vectrex but we all know its s tier tho
Linus Tech Tips and inaccuracies, name a more iconic duo.
Also, fuck Linus
I've been a lifelong Nintendo fan.
But if I were to actually have to grade the system I have had the most joy on, I don't think anything could come close to the Xbox 360. The sheer amount of games that consumed me are staggering.
But if I were to actually have to grade the system I have had the most joy on, I don't think anything could come close to the Xbox 360. The sheer amount of games that consumed me are staggering.
that's... a surprisingly good list? Didn't expect it from Linus
Personally I would rate the PS5, og Xbox and Wii U one rank lower each but this is a pretty solid list.
Hated the Wii and still do, but I gotta admit it's a fine console.
Surprisingly reasonable list. I'd move a few things around, some drastically, but besides it existing as yet another "list for reaction" article/video it isn't terrible
I couldn't go higher than C for PS5 as a lifelong Playstation fan, and that's being incredibly generous (needlessly biased). By far their worst output/support for a system, for my tastes anyway. Still have years left to improve that.
I couldn't go higher than C for PS5 as a lifelong Playstation fan, and that's being incredibly generous (needlessly biased). By far their worst output/support for a system, for my tastes anyway. Still have years left to improve that.
You have my sword. I played a ton of Jet Set Radio Future / Sega GT 2002 on my Xbox, as well as Morrowind, and of course Ninja Gaiden Black. It felt like a second Dreamcast with the Sega stuff like Panzer Dragoon Orta, Outrun 2 / 2006, Crazy Taxi 3, Gunvalkyrie, and Otogi 1 and 2. As time goes on I am more and more fond of the OG Xbox library. I am only thankful that most it is playable via BC on my Series X. Shame about the lack of Outrun 2006 and JSRF though.
I think the list in the OP is solid.
Super solid ranking. I basically agree with all of it, which is impressive. I do think I'd drop PS5 down to B, just because I feel we really haven't gotten much exclusive games for it. But I accept and A rank.
PS4/PS5 too high by like one notch, nostalgia bias tells me to bump the GCN and N64 up one. Wii U should be in a special G-tier class at the bottom. Otherwise solid.
Very boring list. Basically ranked by which ones had the most games/sold the most. Which are the ones with the least amount of unique identity. Some of the most exciting consoles to own had smaller, but incredibly compelling and unique libraries.
That era is gone, and now nearly everything is playable anywhere, so I think if anything those super unique libraries should matter more, from a classic gaming perspective.
That era is gone, and now nearly everything is playable anywhere, so I think if anything those super unique libraries should matter more, from a classic gaming perspective.
Gamecube and Dreamcast should be in A, Xbox One should be in B and N64 should be in C imo, decent list otherwise
My guess is that the Xbox's present woes are implicitly casting the 360 in a more negative light than it deserves (judging from several of the posts here). It was a phenomenal console with a great library and 3rd party and ecosystem dominance relative to the competition.
I also think the PSX, while groundbreaking in its day, has not aged well (fight me).
Its not a bad list, but I'm not sure the 360 is better then the original xbox. For its time I think the xbox is the better console, but for the most part both are on par with each other. I would give the edge to the original xbox only because of the RROD on the 360.
its not a bad list tbh. very reasonable
he didnt rank the vectrex but we all know its s tier tho
Lot of questionable choices here.
SNES at S rank is undeserved. Technically it struggled to outperform the Genesis despite being released 2 years later. Early games (RType) were plagued with slowdown until devs figured out workarounds.It also had some glaring genre gaps (sports) the NES did not, and Nintendo's censorship policies damn near ruined several high profile titles. I get that JRPG fans really like it despite half the best JRPGs never making it out of JP but it's not strong enough to be there.
Likewise the 360 really can't go there either with that whole red ring fiasco. Damn near half of the consoles ever produced self destructed in a spectacular fashion. Edit: and first party software support absolutely cratered for this thing in the second half, almost like MS got bored with it and prioritized other projects. Kinect is almost certainly the reason but getting into exactly why that is, is a thread all it's own.
NES at A honestly seems too low. That's the generation that made "Nintendo" synonymous with videogames. They literally meant the same damn thing for nearly ten years. Also consider how many franchises were popularized on that system that are absolute pillars of gaming right now. Super Mario Brothers, Dragon Quest, Castlevania, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, Mega Man, Ninja Gaiden, Zelda, Kirby, Metroid, Double Dragon, Contra, Kid Icarus, River City Ransom. There simply isn't a system with that kind of impact. Only the PS1 is close to it. This is an S tier system, easily. For those that point to the technical limitations of the NES as a point against it- look at what was coming out BEFORE that system, or even compare NES titles like Bionic Commando or Contra to their arcade counterparts. That system elevated the quality of titles far past expectations.
The Wii is too high. There's a handful of titles that get some love but I've honestly never seen a system with so much shovelware trash making up the library. Nintendo should be ashamed at themselves for this one. It's the definition of a flash in the pan novelty console with no longevity. Motion controls are deader than OJ Simpson. There's no lasting impact from this thing at all except as a cautionary tale of what NOT to do with a system.
The PS5 shouldn't really be here. By all metrics it's doing very well, but it's not really fair to judge a console midway through it's lifespan. Both the PS3 and PS4 would be several tiers lower if judged at a similar point.
The N64 is at best a C tier system and this is being very generous. The library is smaller than the Dreamcast and that system was dead in a year. Go ahead and list the top ten titles for the N64. Now put those aside and try to justify buying that system with everything else. It's all wrestling titles and licensed junk, and those games were a good $30 more than equivalent games on the PS1. Nintendo's attempt at whatever that controller was also went over like a lead balloon. There's a reason every system since then is patterned after the dual shock.
The Neo Geo is at a B and the 3DO is at a D but if we are being honest these are the same system with the same problem. A library that was very limited but advanced for the time but WAY too expensive for the typical consumer. Not sure why there's a big gap between them.
No, a system that lasted exactly one year in the west does not deserve a B. Sorry, Dreamcast. Virtually everything on that worth playing showed up on the Xbox or PS2 anyway.
Xbox One and Intellivision at C are both nonsensical. The XBO library was largely similar to the PS4, and the One X was the strongest system of its generation. There isn't a good reason for a giant gap between the two. Likewise the Intellivision model II was *natively compatible* with 2600 games, and its own library on top of that was technically far superior to what Atari had been putting out.
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Not a bad list. S tier is too crowded.
Each of the current three console manufacturers have one console deserving of S tier.
360 is the obvious choice for Microsoft. It's one of the most important consoles of all time, having set the blue print for every console since.
I could see the argument for either the PS1 or 2. I'm personally not a fan of the PS2, but I get why people are attached to it. I think the PS1 is a bit more important.
Nintendo is a hard one. SNES is probably the right answer, but I can also see why the chose the Switch.
But of course the real GOAT is the Dreamcast.
Each of the current three console manufacturers have one console deserving of S tier.
360 is the obvious choice for Microsoft. It's one of the most important consoles of all time, having set the blue print for every console since.
I could see the argument for either the PS1 or 2. I'm personally not a fan of the PS2, but I get why people are attached to it. I think the PS1 is a bit more important.
Nintendo is a hard one. SNES is probably the right answer, but I can also see why the chose the Switch.
But of course the real GOAT is the Dreamcast.
I would drop all of the Xbox consoles one level except Xbox One. I would raise the N64 one level up.
I'm iffy on PS1, but also I never owned a PS1, so can't really judge. The game's library is largely uninteresting to me, especially in retrospect. I know people loved it, though. I just never really understood it.
NES (mainly for saving the industry lol), Switch, PS2, PS4 would be my S tier.
I loved the 360 for the first half of its life, but it really cratered in the second half, imo.
I'm iffy on PS1, but also I never owned a PS1, so can't really judge. The game's library is largely uninteresting to me, especially in retrospect. I know people loved it, though. I just never really understood it.
NES (mainly for saving the industry lol), Switch, PS2, PS4 would be my S tier.
I loved the 360 for the first half of its life, but it really cratered in the second half, imo.
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If they're dinging the 3D0 and Neo Geo for being too expensive they're almost certainly doing the same with the PS3. I love mine, but $599 US Dollars in current money is somewhere close to the $1000 range.
That is WAY too expensive to justify especially since the library didnt really noticably distinguish itself from the 360 until the later years of the system.
Most got their PS3 at sub $599, very unfair strike imo. And the PS3 library is heaps above the 3do and NG. PS3 is S tier.
True, most bought it later but the very high price of it hampered adoption and third party support. It also only got DOWN to a reasonable level by stripping out all BC, the card readers, super audio CD support, and a few other things.
Is the library heaps better than the Neo Geo and 3DO? Well yeah obviously but those are both C tier systems at best.
PS3 is fine where it is at A. It did a lot, but had some serious flaws. In addition to cost it was also needlessly hard to develop for compared to the 360. Only Sony themselves really managed to get the most out of it.
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It's weird how quickly everyone just forgets what happened.
I have not watched any of their videos since the allegations, (including this one) but assumed them being posted here meant they'd been cleared or noticably improved. Apparently not.
Tbh the 360 is far from being in the top S, but I can agree about the others being S, maybe the SNES is kinda discussable but definitely the 360 shouldn't be there.