LoL streamer 'TF Blade' has been suspended from Twitch for "allegedly" using a racial slur
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lol the implication of this question
To explain to them how they can hear a word so clearly but still be hearing it differently from so many other people.
Looking at the waveform (having identified many phonemes via waveform before), I appears to be a nasal "I" sound, so I'm giving the guy the benefit of the doubt.
Because with headphones on I can't hear a single 'g' or 'r' sound.
I'm sorry to say but you are wrong. Have you studied linguistics within psychology or have you studied linguistics?
Even ignoring the priming that OP clearly did, you likely have a schema connection between "twitch streamer" and the n-word.
I am hearing idiot and seems like that I am not alone. I would rather not judge a guy for something he might have said or not if there is no certainty he did because I don't believe seriously impacting his livelihood is fair without clear proof and in this case to me at least that seems to be the case.
I'm using headphones too and the 'g' and 'z' are super clear to me. Not sure there's an 'r'
I'm curious about people who are hearing idiots which side of yanny/laurel they fell on. I think people who heard Yanny were better able to hear higher-pitch frequencies (I hear Yanny primarily)
i hear 3 syllables, it almost sounds like a mix of him catching himself in the act and changing it to nidiots.
But i don't flat out hear the N word and i tried going into it expecting it straight up
But i don't flat out hear the N word and i tried going into it expecting it straight up
I don't hear "idiots" clearly either. It sounds to me like he garbled two words together. But there's definitely no hard 'g' or hard 'r' being spoken in that clip.
Yes, this is possible. Sounds like he wanted to say a word that began with 'n' and then he changed it immediately.
The slowed down one, after his pronounciation of "these", has three clear syllables to it.
The "s" of these is very sibilant, but once you adjust for that you can here "eh-eh-eh" in terms of the rhythm of 3 syllables in the final word he pronounces.
Which doesn't fit plural n-word as that only has 2. Very clearly so.
The sibilant sound of "these" plus the strong accent is very confusing.
actually after listening to that direct audio over and over...........i do not hear the iots part any more. It's either gets or ggas..............either way, it definitely sounds like it was in his mind to say the word
I listened again at normal speed and slowed down and the only hard consonants I'm hearing are 'd' and 't'. The problem is the first consonant sounds like an 'n'. Not sure what a "nidiot" is, but that's what he's saying here imo.
I can admit, I only read part of the OP and went straight to listen to just the audio clip in the OP, and I pretty much heard the n word. It was not super clear but I heard it believing that is what I was indeed supposed to hear.
I then read some more information where it was stated he said idiots, and when I listened to the clip a second time around, and I pretty clearly heard idiots.
Being told what to expect to hear and what you actually do hear can be a hell of a thing. It is no doubt a real phenomenon.
I do believe he said idiots now that I know both theories as to what he said and I listen to it with as open of a mind, and ears, as possible.
With all that said, there will never be agreement across the board. The accusation has been made and it is close enough where people are hearing both words. So yeah, he is pretty much fucked regardless I would say.
I then read some more information where it was stated he said idiots, and when I listened to the clip a second time around, and I pretty clearly heard idiots.
Being told what to expect to hear and what you actually do hear can be a hell of a thing. It is no doubt a real phenomenon.
I do believe he said idiots now that I know both theories as to what he said and I listen to it with as open of a mind, and ears, as possible.
With all that said, there will never be agreement across the board. The accusation has been made and it is close enough where people are hearing both words. So yeah, he is pretty much fucked regardless I would say.
Because of the strong sibilant ending of the previous word, imo.
I really, really don't hear a slur in there. Sounds odd, but maybe because I have a similar accent I understood him easily.
I'll withhold my opinion atm and wait for this to develop further.
I'll withhold my opinion atm and wait for this to develop further.
I've never been able to hear yanny either, try as I might. Even with the word "yanny" on the screen.
edit: oh i just saw a video explaining that pitch and age play a role. I have old ears. :(
This is honestly the Blue/Gold/Yanny/Laurel thing all over again. I can hear it both ways. I think everyone in the thread should cool off on being so sure their way is 100%.
yes, accent and coming off the word "these" really drowns that beginning. The fact that we are having this discussion about what the hell he said though tells me its too hard to discern what he actually said. look at how many mixed responses we have
Given the circumstances, he should ride out the ban and likely will be fine. Either way, all I expect to come out of this is people railing against Twitch's system to detect the word as a matter of fairness or some other bullshit.
The problem is, if it's not definitive one way or another, they shouldn't be banning people.
The 2019 version of those's things lol. With that being said I too hear idiots (he has a bit of an accent and it sounds like he partially slurred his speech).
That's fine if that's the argument, but for sure if the Twitch mods heard the N-word then you can understand they didn't forsee that honestly many people don't.
I can't hear idiots no matter how hard I try, and I could swap laurel/yanny either.
No other words said during his video are hard to understand, and what he said clearly starts with an N and ends with an A. There is hesitation though? Like maybe he's never said it out loud, or tried to avoid that "er" and fall into the "a" ending... but that doesn't matter.
No other words said during his video are hard to understand, and what he said clearly starts with an N and ends with an A. There is hesitation though? Like maybe he's never said it out loud, or tried to avoid that "er" and fall into the "a" ending... but that doesn't matter.
We need Kotaku to report on this, they've got a great track record with these kinds of investigations.
I think people will unfairly share this story as a way to prove the streamer in question is racist. Twitch needs to reverse the ban.
On the first couple listens I heard something like "nidiots".
If I try to prime myself to hear the n-word, then I can hear...something else. With a "g" sound in the middle. But it still doesn't sound like the n-word precisely. So I'm inclined to believe him if he doesn't have a history of lying / controversy / racism.
If I try to prime myself to hear the n-word, then I can hear...something else. With a "g" sound in the middle. But it still doesn't sound like the n-word precisely. So I'm inclined to believe him if he doesn't have a history of lying / controversy / racism.
From the original OP clip it sounded much more like the N word, or at least some sort of slur coverup attempt but
This is 100% "idiots"
This is 100% "idiots"
Mine's 30 but I don't trust these headphones yeah that's it gotta be the headphones
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