Long Island man finds skeletal remains under basement that are likely his father missing 67 years

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https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loc...her-Long-Island-Carroll-Family-499304341.html

A son of a Long Island man who vanished in 1961, leaving his wife and children alone to grapple with the mystery of his disappearance for decades, says he feels relieved by the discovery of bones in the same home this Halloween.

"We felt abandoned as kids but he was here the whole time," Steven Carroll, who was just 5 when his father George disappeared, told News 4 Thursday.

Steven Carroll and his brother Michael stumbled upon a skeleton in their basement Wednesday; bones they believe belong to their long missing father.

Steven Carroll says his mother told him and his siblings very little about what had happened until just before her death in 1998. The family never filed any missing persons report and there is "no record" of police involvements in his disappearance, Suffolk County police say.

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I heard about this on the radio this morning.

Apparently one day the father "had gone out of the house for a task" (the old went for cigarettes and never came back) and had never returned. This is what his children were told by their mother. There was never a missing persons report put out. It had become family gossip that his dead body might beneath the concrete floor of the basement. Their mother had died in 1998. One of the missing man's children tried to dig up the basement floor years ago, but had to stop due to structural issues that would make the house unsafe. With advances in technology he went back to digging just recently with his two sons. Six feet under the basement skeletal remains were found against a support structure.

 

[TheGhost]

Heard it on the radio this morning, certainly another weird Long Island incident.

 

[Dennis8K]

"We felt abandoned as kids but he was here the whole time"

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[Volimar]

Relief wouldn't be my first reaction to that discovery.

 

[Dennis8K]

So are we to believe the mother killed the dad?

 

[MechDX]

Wouldn't there have been a smell?

 

[PeskyToaster]

"We felt abandoned as kids but he was here the whole time"

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it really does not make it more comforting.


Also the implication is that mom killed him right?

 

[Stardestroyer]

Relief wouldn't be my first reaction to that discovery.

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Yep. It would be sadness and the sudden realization that maybe my mom is a murderer.

 

[TheGhost]

Wouldn't there have been a smell?

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6 feet under concrete? Idk

 

[Stouffers]

I'm confused. Did he dig a hole, jump in and then cover himself with cement?

 

[LakeEarth]

So are we to believe the mother killed the dad?

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I can't think of any other logical explanation. He didn't bury himself.

 

[Drain You]

Yea that's an odd take lol. It turns out he was with us the whole time! Its fineee! Crazy story though especially because it looks like they kinda knew he was there for a while. Would love to hear all the details on this story.

 

[demosthenes]

Yep. It would be sadness and the sudden realization that maybe my mom is a murderer.

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Seems very likely.

 

[Betty]

it really does not make it more comforting.


Also the implication is that mom killed him right?

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Most likely.

 

[Mirage]

6 feet under sounds very...deliberate. Like it doesn't sound like he just had some accident and died somewhere people wouldn't go.

 

[Rvaan]

Relief wouldn't be my first reaction to that discovery.

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Yup. I'd be scared that my mom may have killed my dad.

it really does not make it more comforting.


Also the implication is that mom killed him right?

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The implication is 100% that the mom killed him.

Wouldn't there have been a smell?

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Throw some lye on that sucker and the smell goes away.

 

[Drain You]

6 feet under sounds very...deliberate. Like it doesn't sound like he just had some accident and died somewhere people wouldn't go.

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I think it's pretty much a given the mother killed him.

 

[Lurcharound]

Closure's great but how the hell did get there? Suicide or murder seems most likely unless he dropped dead and the mother decided easy option was to quietly dispose of the body rather than tell anyone.

Either way I'm not sure I'd be 100% comfortable with this unless I'm missing some details; I'd be somewhat relieved to know truth but I would be happy to find out mim killed dad.

 

[TheGhost]

I mean....it can turn out it's not even the father...what then? It will be our next Amityville ahorror house, especially with the discovery on Halloween

 

[A Syrian Communist]

That's gonna be a yikes from me

 

[Rayne]

Huh seems like mom killed him and took it to her grave.

Creepy but really at that point nothing to be done.

 

[kingocfs]

wrong thread

 

[Rvaan]

I mean....it can turn out it's not even the father...what then? It will be our next Amityville ahorror house, especially with the discovery on Halloween

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If it turns out not be the father then that's much worse because now you don't know what happened to your dad and found a random body in your basement.

 

[Fulminator]

So are we to believe the mother killed the dad?

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I think that's the most reasonable explanation

 

[Ensorcell]

Wouldn't there have been a smell?

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Under a poured basement floor? Of course not.

 

[Gundam]

...how does a family rumour like that start? What, did the mom kill the guy and casually tell some relatives through the grapevine??

 

[Denamitea]

Holy shit. How would she even have been able to bury him six feet under concrete in the basement and then covered it up?

 

[TheGhost]

...how does a family rumour like that start? What, did the mom kill the guy and casually tell some relatives through the grapevine??

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I mean Sunday dinner can get crazy sometimes.

Relatives or friends probabky buried the body.
If it was him...maybe he was abusive. How do you keep the kids out the basement all that time.

 

[BossAttack]

Under a poured basement floor? Of course not.

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LOL.

 

[Teddy]

Though they never knew what happened to their father, police say that for reasons that remain unclear the family had always thought he might be buried in the home he lived in on Olive Street in Lake Grove.

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I'd love to know how this conversation started.

 

[Deleted member 33887]

...how does a family rumour like that start? What, did the mom kill the guy and casually tell some relatives through the grapevine??

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Get a suspicious amount of insurance money after 7 years? Sudden basement work?

 

[Polaroid_64]

...how does a family rumour like that start? What, did the mom kill the guy and casually tell some relatives through the grapevine??

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Right?

There must had been some very real suspicion to lead to that rumor. But no one filed a missing person report so who knows.

 

[Emmz]

I'm confused. Did he dig a hole, jump in and then cover himself with cement?

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[Casa]

Can they not have the remains examined to find the cause of death?

 

[SkimpyMcChicken]

The mother told her kids that he abandoned them? Ouch. That's a really mean way to explain his absence.

Granted that's already on top of the whole very mean murder and hide the body thing, but you could at least come up with a cover story that doesn't give your kids a complex. Say he's running from the mob or something.

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

"Turns out mom murdered dad and buried him in the basement. What a relief!"

 

[Walter White Walker]

Can they not have the remains examined to find the cause of death?

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Mom in the basement with the candlestick.

 

[TheGhost]

Can they not have the remains examined to find the cause of death?

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Probably a gunshot, or a wooden rolling pin to the head.

 

[Rvaan]

Probably a gunshot, or a wooden rolling pin to the head.

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Or poison.

 

[shintoki]

I;m so relief dad didn't abandon us. Mom just killed him and buried him under the house

 

[TheGhost]

As a kid we loved playing in the basement. I couldn't imagine her not having help in doing the burial if she is even the one who did it. No one noticed.....it's not exactly easy or quiet to dig through concrete and bury a body.

 

[Mr. X]

...how does a family rumour like that start? What, did the mom kill the guy and casually tell some relatives through the grapevine??

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Dad suddenly leaving and a basement remodel in the same week.

 

[Kinthey]

It must be a relief to know that he didn't abandon the family. That your mother might be a murderer is definitely less so.

 

[PolishQ]

As a kid we loved playing in the basement. I couldn't imagine her not having help in doing the burial if she is even the one who did it. No one noticed.....it's not exactly easy or quiet to dig through concrete and bury a body.

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Might have been a dirt floor at the time.

 

[Argus]

People don't spend years attempting and figuring out how to dig up the basement to look for a body of a "went out for cigarettes" if they didn't think the person was actually killed and buried under there.

 

[Kyougar]

"Geez, he killed himself with 10 shots and even 1 shot in the back of his head. And then he buried himself 6 feet in the ground and poured cement over himself."

Wasn't there a sketch with something like this?

 

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[Jerm]

I'd love to know how this conversation started.

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If you little shits don't shut the hell up, you'll be joining your father underneath the basement!

 

[I Don't Like]

2spooky

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

They spent their lives thinking their dad was a deadbeat... um... a bad egg but it turns out it was the mother all along? What a twist.