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Love Boat 3 Mafia |OT| This time it's Bearsonal
- Thread starter The Bear
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If you think it was a crumb for someone being recruitable or something, sure. If you mean you think it was a breadcrumb that is a lie then I don't know.
Probably FEPs yeah, for similar reasons. Looking back on his contributions, it kind of feels like he's just brushing things off a bit, not taking many stances. Stan as Scum isn't much different from normal Stan from how I remember him in GTA, so I don't think I could point to anything in specific there, but it doesn't change my feelings on FEPs.
So do you still think Stu/Monkey is the top vote you want today, not looking anywhere else?
Where this is coming from? If we have a scum flip and they have a secret partner all remember to lynch Sorian.
Really? I think we have been talked about plenty. This vote feels weak.
I'm currently null on Sorian. There is nothing that makes me think that he is scum or town. I have nothing on B-Dubs either.
Hope everything is ok. Take care of yourself.
I thought that Stuart was clear enough from start and questioning him made it look worse. The initial post was this one, and I don't see an issue with it:
My own personal top vote? Yes, I feel like at this point they've both dug a big enough hole. I still don't think they get it today though. I'm open to most others, I'm not voting Natiko's, Stan's, or Kyan's boats. Not Fran's yet either though I'm a little less sure there. Oh and also not voting Reki's Boat.
Where this is coming from? If we have a scum flip and they have a secret partner all remember to lynch Sorian.
Really? I think we have been talked about plenty. This vote feels weak.
I'm currently null on Sorian. There is nothing that makes me think that he is scum or town. I have nothing on B-Dubs either.
Hope everything is ok. Take care of yourself.
It's coming from Stu saying I'm scum while trying to tell scum something in thread, clearly, if you read the whole conversation.
"It's like giving info away to scum"
That's kind of the sticking point. Present that you think I'm neutral or a secret partner (Fran triggers) when questioned on it, not that I must be scum because I gave info to scum. At worst, at least take the bad page from monkey's book and say it's policy lynch because I'm 50/50 helpful:not helpful as town.
I know. I'm just thinking that you would be the only one bold enough to breadcrumb to the scum team that you are their secret partner (if they have any).
Well i know i dont want to lynch monkey/stu atm but i dont have much in the way of a second choice, so imma put this here for now purely on the hopes of making things more interesting.
vote: Ty4on
going to sleep now, should be up before days end tho i cant promise ill be caught up at the time.
vote: Ty4on
going to sleep now, should be up before days end tho i cant promise ill be caught up at the time.
Sure, if you're town, your job is instead to find scum. You've fallen short there, buddy, sorry to say. And your big idea on me is not really anything other than the fact that I'm not doing it the way you want me to do it or the way you expected. For instance: clearly I'm reading the thread; I'm not just responding or picking the things you would expect me to. This is the kind of stuff I'm talking about when I say you are focused inward. It's not helpful. It's Sorian measure and it's relatively meaningless to others. See also:
Do you disagree with all? I'd guess not from what you've said about who you wouldn't lynch. So which ones do you disagree with? I could piece it together from my notes and memory but why obfuscate? Do you disagree with how Fanto seems to have gotten there, conclusions, or both? All I know from this is: Sorian doesn't agree with Fanto. That tells me you have some thoughts. It doesn't tell me what they are or how you got there or anything about what you're doing and your approach to this game. You're focused inward. Town's out here. Scum is, too.
This is what I expected Kalor and Bae to say and that's my sticking point with their positions on Sorian. If someone's not scummy or townie, how is that not null? You don't have to have a read. Why default to town?
Sorta loss on this part. Was this a previous conversation you had with them regarding a relunctance to vote for Sorian?
Because I didn't care enough to go analyze all of Fanto's reads. His last few posts have been he wants to lynch Natiko (I don't), he doesn't want to lynch you (I do) and he doesn't want to lynch Bae/malus (I kind of do, the only reservation is they seem positioned against you). That's not obfuscating, that's me saying most and not remembering the rest of his reads off hand.
And I'm sure some of y'all think I'm hammering these Sorian questions too hard, but listen - we are still the vote leaders and if we get flipped today, I want to leave a very strong impression here that you should NOT let him slide. I don't know his alignment. But I know he is slippery and people put him off out of reluctance because he's hard to read or he could be useful and so what he does gets ignored. Don't ignore him. Pay attention to him.
I asked them both to tell me why they thought Sorian was town and both just said he hadn't done anything particularly scummy. I asked again for anything townie and just got "not scummy."
Really? Because Bae said she didn't scum read us and malus was iffy but said he wouldn't vote there today.
Right now I'm leaning on voting Pirate Malus, CoolestBeat or Absol4on
As some people have said Pirate Bae is playing very similar as she did in Mafiera, calling the leading lynch as a weak push and then giving weak reads herself. Malus is playing extremely safe.
There is something about Coolest that doesnt' feel right to me. He is playing different from my meta on him, way more careful from what I would expect from him. Also that post about partners and roles is still bugging me.
Regarding Absol4on I feel that Ty is detached from the game. He just come, gives some insight and then banish. It's very close as like he plays as scum.
As some people have said Pirate Bae is playing very similar as she did in Mafiera, calling the leading lynch as a weak push and then giving weak reads herself. Malus is playing extremely safe.
There is something about Coolest that doesnt' feel right to me. He is playing different from my meta on him, way more careful from what I would expect from him. Also that post about partners and roles is still bugging me.
Regarding Absol4on I feel that Ty is detached from the game. He just come, gives some insight and then banish. It's very close as like he plays as scum.
For the record, I feel better about Natiko after getting my thoughts out and talking to him last night, so I'm not really big on that for a final vote. Otherwise, yes, we disagree on Stu/Monkey and Bae/Malus for today.
It'll happen once I'm on a computer. I'm following the thread anyway so I'll post when I can.
I think you are giving this Sorian is slippery meme more value that he really has, the actual numbers show otherwise. The last game where Sorian reached endgame was in Power Rangers, a costume game. Besides that he has been killed or lynched in every game since Rick and Morty, a long time ago. The last time that scum!Sorian survived until the end and won was LB2, a really long time ago. Before that you need to go to Batman. He only survived until game end in HvV because he had a green check.
She argued with Stu with the same points I did and around the same so she wasn't just copying me, she's still positioned against you even if she isn't going to vote you today.
Huh, that's an unexpected vote. What do you mean by *carry*? Verelios is a solid town read for me so far and Apollo had some few posts that I agreed with.
Yeah, Ty has been fading for sure. I can't recall any real contribution he has made in the back half of this phase so far.
It feels like verelios is doing the bulk of it. At the very least I can resummon apollo before the EoD. Plus I'm not really down with the dr monkey stuart train
I mean, I made a whole post going over each boat in general. What more "general thoughts" do you want?
The part that gets me a little salty about that game is that town felt like we were doing so, so well. We had several scum early, we kept our PR deaths to a minimum, and yet the game was over early on before we had any idea.
When you posted? Sleeping! :D I'm shit at D1. I see all the back and forth fights/arguments/whatever you want to call them and I'm not really ever sure where they come from.
I've already said I don't usually put my votes down early until later in the day. I really don't see what difference it makes 8+ hours out (as of your post, not the one I'm typing now which is still 6+ hours out). I feel like a crazy person for remembering when Terrabyte20xx made a D1 vote in Star Wars and people flipped out. Now random and prod votes are all the rage and DAMN KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN! STUPID CLOUDS
I am not sure I would use HoH as representative of anything, honestly. With such a small scum team, EVERYONE started looking scummy because we expected a certain amount of scum and there were two. (And a sk that died N1). I'm comparing more to MafiEra, where granted we had the D1 "vote in a leader instead of voting out someone" shenanigans, but activity wasn't usually an issue either way.
Glad you're okay, and naturally take all the time you need.
I wish I could open a window, but we're on the 9th floor in downtown DC. That's just not a thing. They're supposedly going to reshampoo the carpet but I really do not see how that is supposed to help.
Fake edit cause they finished while I was typing this: it's worse.
Would you expect a town boat to be more coordinated than what you see in Apollo/Vere? What of your own boat?
I expect zero success in containing coolest.
I'll have to leave shortly and probably won't be back for day end so I'll quickly drop my vote:
vote: Kalor
To be clear, I'm essentially voting Kits, but since she's not here Kalor will have to do. As said in my previous post I had a neutral to good impression at first, but her disappearance together with Kalors non-presence kind of flipped that. So of the current vote leaders this is the boat I want to flip the most.
vote: Kalor
To be clear, I'm essentially voting Kits, but since she's not here Kalor will have to do. As said in my previous post I had a neutral to good impression at first, but her disappearance together with Kalors non-presence kind of flipped that. So of the current vote leaders this is the boat I want to flip the most.
Just seemed like a curious thing to hinge your read on when your boat doesn't appear to have any coordination, though you make a fair point that Coolest is..well, Coolest.
These are the players with no vote down yet. Notice that two pairs up for the lynch still don't have voted yet.
I really don't get this hammering on about not voting 6+ hours out.
It shows where people are at right now, since votes speak louder than anything else, especially on later days. It also means that scum need to try to justify a vote on someone, rather than vote in the rush at the end of the day and not need to explain as much.
On one hand, I don't want to kill 444 and Dr.Monkey cause in games I've been in with them they've been great players....
On other hand, that could make them great S C U M
On other hand, that could make them great S C U M
VOTE: KALOR and Kitsunelaine
Out of 3 teams with 4 votes on them, I could believe you're all about that
Out of 3 teams with 4 votes on them, I could believe you're all about that
Sorry being shit available and unhelpful D1. Mix of finals, new job out of nowhere, and shitty wifi at home.
Damn, that post sucked lol.
Didn't see you on that list Z-Beat! Grabbed Stuart's previous one and forgot to get you.
Internet at work is dying. Ef this day, I should have just stayed home.
I guess? I mean, we have votes like Vere's vote on FEP/Stan that are from Page 3. Do we really think that's some all important vote requiring explanation? Fran and Sorian have votes from around the same time period that are easily handwaved. I feel like you're trying to put emphasis on something that's not really all that telling. The most important votes are the ones people end a day with, imo.
You don't need to contain me, just love me baby. We gonna have a wild night.