Magic: the Gathering |OT| Zendikar Rising - Nahiri Did Nothing Wrong

LSauchelli · Sep 8, 2020

SigmasonicX said:
Starting to think "this has reach?!" is literally part of red's color pie now, lol.

Yeah, it feels like, in each new set, they give red one creature with reach to make people do a double take and say "Wait, what? What do you mean you can block my flyer!?" Like, a curve-ball or something.

SigmasonicX · Sep 8, 2020

Interesting design

Instant Preordain for 2, or Omen of the Sea but not enchantment and without the sac ability.

Odd design. The second ability is templated so you don't see the trigger on Arena even if you don't control a Cleric.

Meh Limited card.

And the dumbest preview gimmick

Submit your artwork and they'll reveal the card tomorrow!
You know, tomorrow, when the full reveal happens anyway.

Poppy · Sep 8, 2020

it's a pretty alt art squid though

i hate cheaters · Sep 8, 2020

can the eel come out to play?

SigmasonicX · Sep 8, 2020

Mage of Tazeem Tides - 1U
Creature - Merfolk Wizard
Kicker (4)
When CARDNAME enters the battlefield, if it was kicked, return target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard to your hand.
2/1

Sky Dancer of Nimana - 2B
Creature - Human Rogue
Flash
Flying
When CARDNAME enters the battlefield, target opponent mills two cards.
2/1

Celebratory Kor - 2W
Creature - Kor Cleric
Whenever CARDNAME or another creature enters the battlefield under your control, you gain 1 life.
1/4

This is similar to the dash mechanic.

No "your opponent controls" restriction, and it's mandatory, as a heads up.

Interesting design.

It looks at "amount of mana spent to cast it" rather than X due to Commander. Surprised to see another card that copies permanent spells.

Firemind · Sep 8, 2020

lol red needs to pay two mana to get one +1/+1 counter or otherwise it gets bounced

Carthago Delenda Est · Sep 8, 2020

SigmasonicX said:
Mage of Tazeem Tides - 1U
Creature - Merfolk Wizard
Kicker (4)
When CARDNAME enters the battlefield, if it was kicked, return target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard to your hand.
2/1

Sky Dancer of Nimana - 2B
Creature - Human Rogue
Flash
Flying
When CARDNAME enters the battlefield, target opponent mills two cards.
2/1

Celebratory Kor - 2W
Creature - Kor Cleric
Whenever CARDNAME or another creature enters the battlefield under your control, you gain 1 life.
1/4

This is similar to the dash mechanic.

No "your opponent controls" restriction, and it's mandatory, as a heads up.

Interesting design.

It looks at "amount of mana spent to cast it" rather than X due to Commander. Surprised to see another card that copies permanent spells.

Verazol canalso be cast X=0!

SigmasonicX · Sep 8, 2020

Carthago Delenda Est said:
Verazol canalso be cast X=0!

In the past, they would have had it enter with X+2 +1/+1 counters. The "amount of mana spent" wording comes from Commander deck cards.

Carthago Delenda Est · Sep 8, 2020

SigmasonicX said:
In the past, they would have had it enter with X+2 +1/+1 counters. The "amount of mana spent" wording comes from Commander deck cards.

Yeah that's great for commander. I was just adding that as it could be relevant for limited!

SigmasonicX · Sep 8, 2020

Interesting card, including with the weird kicker.

Makindi Throne
Land
Tap: Add <>
(1), Tap: Put a charge counter on CARDNAME
Tap, Remove a charge counter from CARDNAME: Add two mana of any color. Spend this mana only on kicked spells.

Really bad land.

acheron_xl · Sep 8, 2020

SigmasonicX said:

Now Sanguine Bond is a common creature that domes every opponent? lol

Piecake · Sep 8, 2020

acheron_xl said:
Now Sanguine Bond is a common creature that domes every opponent? lol

it isn't sanguine bond. If you gain 3 life, then that creature will dome your opponent for 1

acheron_xl · Sep 8, 2020

Piecake said:
it isn't sanguine bond. If you gain 3 life, then that creature will dome your opponent for 1

Ok ok. I read it wrong.

It's still a good multiplayer card.

Imperfected · Sep 8, 2020

I feel like Party is a mechanic I'd see in a low-tier Yu-Gi-Oh deck.

Which means it's probably either going to be god-awful bad or get such blatant over-tuned tribal support cards that it's playable but unfun.

Carthago Delenda Est · Sep 8, 2020

Imperfected said:
I feel like Party is a mechanic I'd see in a low-tier Yu-Gi-Oh deck.

Which means it's probably either going to be god-awful bad or get such blatant over-tuned tribal support cards that it's playable but unfun.

It's definitely a draft mechanic.

Nacho · Sep 8, 2020

Carthago Delenda Est said:
It's definitely a draft mechanic.

yeah there hasnt been any glue card here to make any of he other cards really constructed playable without trying some jank like outlaws merriment or something.

I am excited for new rogues tho.

Imperfected · Sep 8, 2020

Carthago Delenda Est said:
It's definitely a draft mechanic.

I'm just worried they try to push it hard enough that it becomes a thing.

Like, cycling support should've just been a Draft-only deal, too, but that Zenith Flare deck got there for a bit. Adventures, too. It just takes a couple of overtuned support cards to make a really obnoxious Tier 2-ish deck.

Deleted member 13188 · Sep 8, 2020

Nacho said:
yeah there hasnt been any glue card here to make any of he other cards really constructed playable without trying some jank like outlaws merriment or something.

I am excited for new rogues tho.

I mean I will be doubling my Outlaws Merriment with the new Mythic Artifact. Jank you say?! How dare you!

Phantom · Sep 8, 2020

Set is a huge disappointment to me...again. You'd think they would nail Zendikar after the horrible BOZ set but nope, still pretty average.

Party: super narrow and doesn't feel great at all
Kicker: everything is over-costed. Only one card I love is the reanimator guy with kicker.
DFC lands: the only saving grace IMO, pretty fun design if not dangerous for the health of the game (all your cards do something!)
Landfall: while one of the best mechanics in the whole game, I feel it's lackluster here.

I miss traps and allies which both conveyed better the sense of adventure. Now it feels forced with the Party thing. Set also seems like a return to low-powered cards because nothing excites me really. There's a few goodies for Commander but I'll wait for the full spoiler (missing ~10 cards now) before passing final judgment

Nacho · Sep 8, 2020

Bamm_Bamm said:
I mean I will be doubling my Outlaws Merriment with the new Mythic Artifact. Jank you say?! How dare you!

no disrespect by calling it jank. in fact its a term of endearment!

Deleted member 13188 · Sep 8, 2020

Nacho said:
no disrespect by calling it jank. in fact its a term of endearment!

Yes I dub the new Artifact "Jank Engine". I will brew many janks with it!

Imperfected · Sep 8, 2020

I mean it's not so much that the artifact's jank, it's broken straight out of the box. It's more jank if you don't do something completely absurd with it.

SmokeMaxX · Sep 9, 2020

Party seems like absolute garbage.

SubvertedTrope · Sep 9, 2020

Phantom said:
Set is a huge disappointment to me...again. You'd think they would nail Zendikar after the horrible BOZ set but nope, still pretty average.

Party: super narrow and doesn't feel great at all
Kicker: everything is over-costed. Only one card I love is the reanimator guy with kicker.
DFC lands: the only saving grace IMO, pretty fun design if not dangerous for the health of the game (all your cards do something!)
Landfall: while one of the best mechanics in the whole game, I feel it's lackluster here.

I miss traps and allies which both conveyed better the sense of adventure. Now it feels forced with the Party thing. Set also seems like a return to low-powered cards because nothing excites me really. There's a few goodies for Commander but I'll wait for the full spoiler (missing ~10 cards now) before passing final judgment

They intentionally reigned in this set's power level and hopefully all the next ones too. I think companions needing a rules change was a wake up call, in case Hogaak, Oko, FoD, Astrolabe, Teferi, Uro, Fires, Underworld Breach, etc, etc weren't enough of one.

Deleted member 29682 · Sep 9, 2020

SigmasonicX said:

Liking this for my Emry Brawl deck, 4 mana for a 4/4 which splits up in response to targeted removal is pretty nice, though not a lot of use for the kicker effect in that format.

LSauchelli · Sep 9, 2020

SigmasonicX said:
It looks at "amount of mana spent to cast it" rather than X due to Commander. Surprised to see another card that copies permanent spells.

Yeah, this seems to be extremely strong. You could even play it for UG and sacrifice it to copy a big spell that very same turn. If Simic has good kicked spells, this could be the "lucky clover" for a "Kicker deck".

You could even copy Jace and have three of him instead of two (not as good as having four, but it's versatile).

Hogger · Sep 9, 2020

The party mechanic just seems strange for Zendikar. I wish they saved it for their D&D set.

acheron_xl · Sep 9, 2020

Hogger said:
The party mechanic just seems strange for Zendikar. I wish they saved it for their D&D set.

They haven't said it explicitly, but they're totally going to use it in the D&D set too.

Toxi · Sep 9, 2020

Phantom said:
Set is a huge disappointment to me...again. You'd think they would nail Zendikar after the horrible BOZ set but nope, still pretty average.

Party: super narrow and doesn't feel great at all
Kicker: everything is over-costed. Only one card I love is the reanimator guy with kicker.
DFC lands: the only saving grace IMO, pretty fun design if not dangerous for the health of the game (all your cards do something!)
Landfall: while one of the best mechanics in the whole game, I feel it's lackluster here.

I miss traps and allies which both conveyed better the sense of adventure. Now it feels forced with the Party thing. Set also seems like a return to low-powered cards because nothing excites me really. There's a few goodies for Commander but I'll wait for the full spoiler (missing ~10 cards now) before passing final judgment

Allies always felt like some Sliver-style army rather than an actual adventuring group. They were also a complete mess from a flavor perspective; what makes something an Ally? I don't miss the concept at all.

LSauchelli · Sep 9, 2020

acheron_xl said:
They haven't said it explicitly, but they're totally going to use it in the D&D set too.

Well, if they're going to re-use mechanics from the same Standard, I wish they had re-used Adventure for this set, it fit the whole "Zendikar is the adventure world" thing.

Then again, we know that the D&D set is going to replace the Core Set 2022, so it could have a lot of returning mechanics and reprints (I guess Fireball is going to be a thing again?)

acheron_xl · Sep 9, 2020

I love Adventure, but I suspect they wouldn't want to do two different mechanical frame treatments in the same set, and they seem committed to MDFCs, doing them in three consecutive sets.

divisionbyzorro · Sep 9, 2020

I'm assuming they're doing DFCs in so many sets in a row for printing efficiency, right? It's a slightly different printing process, so it makes sense to switch up the process and then leave it that for a bit before switching it back.

acheron_xl · Sep 9, 2020

Seems possible. I just assumed it's a product of Maro's stated goal of creating more cross-set mechanical cohesion.

Mana Latte · Sep 9, 2020

Yeah I can say without a doubt other than the modal lands, the shade, and that BG hydra that this set looks really shitty to me. You can do a moderate power level set like Dominaria but still be good. I fear that the vocal will win and standard power level is gonna be shit for a long while

LSauchelli · Sep 9, 2020

acheron_xl said:
Seems possible. I just assumed it's a product of Maro's stated goal of creating more cross-set mechanical cohesion.

They could do that if they went back to a block format, tbh.

divisionbyzorro · Sep 9, 2020

This is a really fun card!

acheron_xl · Sep 9, 2020

divisionbyzorro said:
This is a really fun card!

Needs defender so I can run it in an Arcades, the Strategist deck.

Ashodin · Sep 9, 2020

acheron_xl said:
Needs defender so I can run it in an Arcades, the Strategist deck.

Put it in the chair

divisionbyzorro · Sep 9, 2020

Pretty good in Phenax

Firemind · Sep 9, 2020

Wish it had islandwalk too

Or at the very least trample

aidan · Sep 9, 2020

I wonder if there's room to use Landfall as a negative effect to balance higher power level elsewhere on a card?

Lightning Ovum - 1R

Haste

Landfall - When a land enters the battlefield, destroy ~.

3/1

acheron_xl · Sep 9, 2020

Landfall has a ton of space.

SigmasonicX · Sep 9, 2020

MaRo stated on Blogatog that the printing prices for DFC have not gone down, they just thought it was worth the additional price this time.

~~~

Full reveal is actually going to be tomorrow.

This is the card that the tweet I posted before was supposed to unveil. They're still slow rolling its reveal even though it's in the card image gallery, lol.

Seems good.

Now we have Commander deck reveals today! These are expected to go for about $20 each, but it seems like their value is about what you'd expect from a normal more expensive Commander deck.

Here's the full reveal for Land's Wrath

Magic: The Gathering's Land's Wrath Commander Decklist Revealed

The Land's Wrath Commander deck for Magic: The Gathering's newest upcoming expansion, Zendikar Rising is being revealed right here and now!

bleedingcool.com

MTG Deck: Land's Wrath precon

The Land’s Wrath preconstructed Commander deck. Thank you to Wizards of the Coas...

tappedout.net

New cards

Includes Omnath, Locus of Rage, which is $7.

We just have the new cards for Rogue deck

And new Magic Story! I'll summarize later.

Episode 2: Race to the Murasa Skyclave | MAGIC: THE GATHERING

Nahiri arrives in Sea Gate in search of an adventuring party while Jace tries to get a clue.

magic.wizards.com

Izzy · Sep 9, 2020

Huh, were the set booster boxes always 150? I could have sworn when they were announced the price would be closer to draft booster boxes. Or is this another one of those "a bit more" moments?

acheron_xl · Sep 9, 2020

Looks like most of The List is out there, and there's some weird shit on there.

Metroidvania · Sep 9, 2020

Izzy said:
Huh, were the set booster boxes always 150? I could have sworn when they were announced the price would be closer to draft booster boxes. Or is this another one of those "a bit more" moments?

It is/was supposed to be around the same price (like 10-15 bucks more), but speculation on 'the list' (same as mystery boosters)', along with the possibility of having 'somewhat' less draft chaff has seemingly increased prices.

edit:

acheron_xl said:
Looks like most of The List is out there, and there's some weird shit on there.

Oh god, why is springjack Shepard back - I have flashbacks from when I opened waaaay too many in Mystery boosters.

Otherwise, some good staples for commander and the like (scrouge of the throne, platinum angel, skullclamp, just to name a few), but if your odds of getting a 'list' card are so low already, why are there so many of them...

or am I misremembering that the odds of even pulling a list card are pretty slim?

acheron_xl · Sep 9, 2020

A List card will replace the token slot card in 1 in 4 set boosters.

Hope I don't end up with that useless conspiracy card.

Izzy said:
Huh, were the set booster boxes always 150? I could have sworn when they were announced the price would be closer to draft booster boxes. Or is this another one of those "a bit more" moments?

I preordered mine for $126.

TheYanger · Sep 9, 2020

Their 'retail' should be much lower, this is just the inflation that has been going on. They were obtainable for like 100-115 a monrh or two ago.

Oligarchenemy · Sep 9, 2020

Izzy said:
Huh, were the set booster boxes always 150? I could have sworn when they were announced the price would be closer to draft booster boxes. Or is this another one of those "a bit more" moments?

Shouldn't be. Mine were like 120 something with tax

Izzy · Sep 9, 2020

Hmmm, gonna have to check in with the LGS then. There's usually a couple dollars "local tax" on boxes I don't mind paying to help out the store, but sometimes if the speculation is high they can't ignore it. I was just looking online and got caught off guard by the difference. Ty all

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