So how long after announcement are things normally available for preorder from retailers?
it's been weeks since Kang and still no option
it's been weeks since Kang and still no option
Antman and Wasp are folding cards, Team-ups work with Ally versions too. Everything up to Rise of the Red Skull was intentionally more straightforward to get everyone into the game and things will get more complex. QS and SW have the same civilian ability(discard 2 draw 2, turns to draw 3 if other sibling is in play), SW is a deck Miller, Quicksilver is a ready, hit and runner
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Apparently if they're anything like the transformers foldables they'll be super durable.
all about all of these. Some people on reddit have been griping, especially about the giant folding cards, but I'm all about it and think it's a great idea.Antman and Wasp are folding cards, Team-ups work with Ally versions too. Everything up to Rise of the Red Skull was intentionally more straightforward to get everyone into the game and things will get more complex. QS and SW have the same civilian ability(discard 2 draw 2, turns to draw 3 if other sibling is in play), SW is a deck Miller, Quicksilver is a ready, hit and runner
Apparently if they're anything like the transformers foldables they'll be super durable.
Can anyone share what Hero+Aspect combinations might be best for solo play? I don't honestly play enough to know, and I've read enough to think that Thor is maybe not suited for one-handed solo. I've had a lot of success with Spidey and Captain Marvel, but since I will likely mostly be playing this game solo going forward, I'd like to invest in the heroes that are better suited for that style of play.
I think it really depends on whether you're playing true solo or two handed. I only play this game solo, but I always play two characters at the same time. Honestly, just play around with different options. I know that sounds dismissive, but it's really what makes the game fun, seeing the difference between, say, a protection Iron Man and an Aggression Iron Man.
My only real advice would be to start with characters like Captain Marvel or She-Hulk if you're doing true solo, and avoid ones who take a while to get going like Iron Man or Black Panther, at least in the early plays, because it's easy to see the game get away with you while you're building up equipment.
Literally setting up for our third game. This time She Hulk and Ms Marvel team up to take down Claw.
While setting up I thought about how odd Villain choices are.
Rhino: historically a Spider-Man villian. And not really a character you think of when team ups are involved.
Ultron: Here because of the movie obviously. Though a worthy main villain as it is rare for him to be defeated individually.
Klaw: Here because of Black Panther. Sort of baffling choice as he is a guy who really is only treated as a threat when it's the Masters of Evil or Frightful Four.
Green Goblin: another Spider-Man villain. At least this one has been a greater threat before thanks to Dark Reign.
The Wrecking Crew: I mean I love the Wrecking Crew but COME ON!
Where is Kang or Doom or the Kingpin or the Red Skull?
While setting up I thought about how odd Villain choices are.
Rhino: historically a Spider-Man villian. And not really a character you think of when team ups are involved.
Ultron: Here because of the movie obviously. Though a worthy main villain as it is rare for him to be defeated individually.
Klaw: Here because of Black Panther. Sort of baffling choice as he is a guy who really is only treated as a threat when it's the Masters of Evil or Frightful Four.
Green Goblin: another Spider-Man villain. At least this one has been a greater threat before thanks to Dark Reign.
The Wrecking Crew: I mean I love the Wrecking Crew but COME ON!
Where is Kang or Doom or the Kingpin or the Red Skull?
Next months box is Red Skull and hydra(Crossbones, Absorbing Man, Taskmaster, and Armin Zola) with playable Hawkeye and Spiderwoman. Following month we get Kang(and Antman as a separate pack). Next villains is a cosmic box in February(with Rocket and Groot heroes). Doom is totally being saved for a F4 box(heck Doom, Silver Surfer, Galactus, Annihulus, and Frightful Four would be an epic box)
It's Captain America Leadership. He's the best solo character. Requires no buildup, just goes straight into handling every threat or enemy you can throw at him. If I can't beat a scenario at a certain difficulty, I just throw Cap at it and watch him steamroll it.
Also should point out that the devs have made it obvious that a lot of the big names were kept out of the first wave so they could be more dynamic and complicated. Everything up to Red Skull is intentionally more straightforward to get people in combined with some mcu focus for free marketing. But they'll start throwing in more comic stuff after that(I expect things to get more interesting post feb's Guardian box).
For example Kang has 3/4 phases and splits up the heroes.
For example Kang has 3/4 phases and splits up the heroes.
Okay that just shows I'm behind. I thought Crossbones and Absorbing Man were different sets?
Different scenarios, one box. It's the first campaign box and Hydra is raiding project P.E.G.A.S.U.S.
some fun mechanics too
You can do the standard single fights or do a continuing story with health carryover and reward cards. 5 villains and 2 heroes.
Okay that is awesome and everything I wanted from this game.Different scenarios, one box. It's the first campaign box and Hydra is raiding project P.E.G.A.S.U.S.
some fun mechanics too
You can do the standard single fights or do a continuing story with health carryover and reward cards. 5 villains and 2 heroes.
Our table now
Oh yeah, the other fun twist: Spiderwoman can have 2 aspects in her deck
Note I mean the box has 5 new villains and 2 new hero's not that's the number used in the campaign side
So we held off playing last night for various reasons but just finished playing today.
Sad to report that Klaw got the better of us. It's all those damn hired goons he has. First keeping us from thwarting the main scheme and then his Armed Guards keeping us from attacking him.
Sad to report that Klaw got the better of us. It's all those damn hired goons he has. First keeping us from thwarting the main scheme and then his Armed Guards keeping us from attacking him.
Wow you weren't kidding about Cap. Played 2 games with him last night solo and just steamrolled both Rhino and Klaw.
Starting or 4th game of Champions. Black Panther and Thor v The Wrecking Crew.
Oh and I bought the Thor and Wrecking Crew Expansions today.
Oh and I bought the Thor and Wrecking Crew Expansions today.
Taking a bit of a break to catch up on (and better learn) Arkham Horror, but I can't wait for Red Skull to come in here before too long. That also nets me Hulk, Ms Marvel, and Wrecking Crew, which I had bundled to get free shipping back when I first preordered.
I'm thinking that I'm going to need to create a binder for all of my hero and aspect cards (or at least the aspect cards), because I can see storage getting out of hand before too long. As it stands I think I have enough room in the core set to hold everything I listed above, but once Ant-Man/Wasp/Scarlet Witch/Quicksilver come out, it'll be hella cramped.
I'm thinking that I'm going to need to create a binder for all of my hero and aspect cards (or at least the aspect cards), because I can see storage getting out of hand before too long. As it stands I think I have enough room in the core set to hold everything I listed above, but once Ant-Man/Wasp/Scarlet Witch/Quicksilver come out, it'll be hella cramped.
I use one of these myself, need to find my other set of dividers before ROTS comes
Long term it'll probably be Heroes/Aspects/Villains/side schemes
my preorder through FfG is processing so I'm excited. For now tho I'm skipping the rest of the first wave outside of Kamala and GG which I already have since all four heroes in wave 2 excite me more so I'd honestly get them over most of the currently releases one
plus for all us true believers Kang is a must have
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Anyone else just not messing with deck building at all? We play a lot of Arkham Horror LCG and to be honest none of us has the will or desire to mess with deck building in this game, and the standard decks are pretty solid for the most part (Ms. Marvel is kinda terrible which bums me out). I don't feel like the gameplay lasts long enough to warrant hours on deck building like I do with Arkham.
Also for storage I use a Big Geeky Box made for Smash Up. I had it just lying around empty after I bought the Bigger Geekier Box.
Also for storage I use a Big Geeky Box made for Smash Up. I had it just lying around empty after I bought the Bigger Geekier Box.
I wouldn't because I just don't have the time, but
marvelcdb.com
helped tremendously as it allows you to adjust which card sets appear when deck building. So deck building becomes a lot more easy with that site.
Marvel Champions Deckbuilder · MarvelCDB
Build your deck for Marvel Champions by Fantasy Flight Games. Browse the cards and the thousand of decklists submitted by the community. Publish your own decks and get feedback.
marvelcdb.com
helped tremendously as it allows you to adjust which card sets appear when deck building. So deck building becomes a lot more easy with that site.
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I think time is the biggest issue. I build a hero deck and then it is good, but did I pull cards from other characters? Now I gotta rebuild those decks before I can play them. And it is all for single fights. Compare it to Arkham where you take the time to carefully build a deck but you can expect to take that deck through a campaign of at least 8 scenarios, more if you plug in side missions. The prep time versus play time math just doesn't add up to make it feel worth while to me in Champions.
I haven't done any deck building yet. I will eventually once, but I'm still having fun and learning the ropes with the decks provided. I haven't followed what Red Skull is gonna be, but if it's a kind of campaign where we need to keep the same decks from game to game then I might start looking into it.
As for storage, I've got everything released so far, sleeved, and it all fits in the core box. I think that's about it though, once more set and I'll have to start storing the tokens and tiny cards and health dials elsewhere. I'll probably just end up keeping that stuff in the Red Skull box. Eventually I'll move it all to a cardboard box like what Mandos posted.
I'm new to all of this stuff myself and will probably never be excellent at deckbuilding. But I do find deck building here to be less of a burden than in Arkham. Having 15 of your cards decided for you out of the gate and then having a handful of standard inclusions, like your double resource neutral cards for instance, narrows it down to where you really only need to pick 20 or so cards to round out a deck. The way you're locked into a single aspect helps as well. So what I find is that I can put together a fairly functional deck for two heroes to two-hand solo a game in less than an hour at this point. Are they perfect? No. But for what I want to get out of them, I'm pretty happy.
So for me, Marvel Champs acts as a kind of deck building tutorial with training wheels, which I like. On that note, I just spent about 2 hours building a Zoe/Rex deck for my first Dunwich play through, and I have no idea how that's going to go for me haha.
It has a campaign complete with comic book story breaks that connects all 5 scenarios together with extra reward loss cards. But this ones pretty straightforward whereas future ones they want to get more creative like cosmic breakout has a market you can buy cards from between rounds and a Milano support that carries between scenarios
In a 2-player game (which I haven't done yet) can a hero attack a minion that is engaged with a different hero? I know the minion will only attack the hero it's engaged with, but I'm not sure about the reverse situation. I assume the answer is yes, but I don't know for sure.
Yes, you are correct. Any hero can attack any minion if not are in play a card that prevents that.
Anyone get Red Skull yet? Got my shipping notification, but it'll probably be a week or two before it arrives.
Got it in last Wednesday from FFG/Asmodee. Haven't gotten around to playing/sleeving yet it's been a scorcher
I'm sure there are pics floating around out there, but I was wondering about the box insert. Is there one? Does the Red Skull box make a good overflow box? Or is it time to move everything to a dedicated card box?
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Got Red Skull this weekend. Finally decided to sleeve up everything I had. Had Hulk, Black Widow, and Doctor Strange unopened. My brother and I started the campaign with him using Doctor Strange and me running Black Widow. I absolutely love Black Widow, might be my favorite character in the game so far. Having an army of prep cards ready to go and just saying "nope" when really bad stuff happens is great. Doctor Strange is also insane with his spells, being able to do a little bit of everything but feeling strong unlike Kamala who is also a jack of all trades that feels too inconsistent. We were able to pretty easily stomp Crossbones, he didn't get to advance the scheme once despite only needing 6 threat to advance.
Yeah, but it is just a piece of cardboard dividing the box in half. If your card are sleeved and they fit in the core box they will also fit in the spaces provided in the Red Skull box.
Yeah, but it is just a piece of cardboard dividing the box in half. If your card are sleeved and they fit in the core box they will also fit in the spaces provided in the Red Skull box.
nothing fancy and the box is pretty small but that's not an inherently bad thing
Thanks! Yeah, that'll work just fine.
My copy of Red Skull should be in today or tomorrow (Effing Labor Day delays.) my mains so far have been Hulk and Cap. Am really looking forward to Kong's villain set with the time travel mechanic.
This is a pretty capable solo game and Tabletop Simulator is your friend in more ways than one. If you ever want to play online shoot me a message.
I ordered from FFG and I still haven't gotten a shipment notice yet.
Base;
Heroes:
Ms Marvel
Captain America
Thor
Black Widow
Dr Strange
Hulk
Villains:
Green Goblin
Wrecking crew
Campaign box(just released):
Rise of the Red Skull
Then Kang and Antman are out next
Had my first 2-player game yesterday. Captain American and Captain Marvel vs. Standard Rhino. We got Rhino into his 2nd form in no time at all with great threat management, but we got hit hard in his 2nd form. Lots of side schemes, negative status effects, lots of minions out on the board. There were a couple times when Rhino had 12/14 threat, and there were times when Captain Marvel was down to 2HP. In the end, Tigra landed the final blow after a massive attack from Captain Marvel. It was a great back and forth and a nice victory.
My friend really enjoyed the game as well. He's a life-long gamer and is very particular about his games and generally dislikes LCGs (and FFG in general), but he loved it. We're gonna have another go soon, and then team up for Red Skull whenever my copy comes in.
My friend really enjoyed the game as well. He's a life-long gamer and is very particular about his games and generally dislikes LCGs (and FFG in general), but he loved it. We're gonna have another go soon, and then team up for Red Skull whenever my copy comes in.
Congrats for your victory!
I never liked the LCGs too (I tried some over the years) and this is my first Co-op one, and I love it!
This weekend my brother joined me to play the Red Skull's campaign, and we defeat Crossbones without problems (we got a lucky with the encounters draws), but we had lose against Absorbing Man two times. We're playing in standard with the preconstructed decks of Hawkeye and Spider-Woman. Really fun fights there.
Ok, does anyone know how to shuffle cards properly? Because either a god has cursed me or I am so specific in how I shuffle that for the last 3 solo games, I have gotten the exact same hands in a row. As in, the hand I get and the card order is the same and the enemy card order is the same, down to the number written down. Unless I go out of my way to shuffle cards in a way where I can see the exact same cards so I know the order (which is cheating) I will always get the exact same cards right next to each other. I think I'm going fucking crazy, how in the world am I shuffling so I get the exact same setup each and every time!?!
Maybe not the fastest method, but I make like 8 or 9 facedown piles and just pile more cards on randomly, then gather the piles randomly. Then I cut the deck a few times and that's usually good. The sleeves I use are soft and aren't great for any type of traditional shuffling.
Before starting the game, with the player deck I make 6 or 7 piles of facedown cards and then side shuffle three or four times, then I make piles and side shuffle again.
For encounter deck, I only side shuffle a bunch of times.
During the playthough, I only side shuffle the decks 3 or 4 times.
For encounter deck, I only side shuffle a bunch of times.
During the playthough, I only side shuffle the decks 3 or 4 times.
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So does this game seem to take wayyyy to long with 4 players? We've been playing it with 4 and they seem to take forever and just get more difficult in some ways
Haven't played 4 player, but yes, that seems to be the consensus over on Board Game Geek. 1-2 is the sweet spot for the game. If you've got 4 pros who know their decks inside and out and don't need to consult the rules reference three times a round then I imagine that also helps quite a bit. I'm not at that point yet.
I'm very happy with how well this plays solo, and that playing one hero is totally viable. I still prefer to two hand it, but either way is fun. Got Rise of the Red Skull on the way, can't wait to dive into the campaign.