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Looks pretty great for the most part. Some of the overall lighting choices make some scenes look a bit blown out and over exposed even if the original scenes were overly dark often times, but it's not too bad. Some of the touched up locations in ME1 look really amazing though. Feros and Noveria look so damn good. Citadel too.

Using the shitty vacuum sealed ME3 scientist outfit for Liara is definitely unfortunate. Always hated the look of those outfits throughout the series. Looked cheap and weird and then needlessly form fitting. Hopefully some good modders can create some complete replacement outfits and not just touch ups since they're just ugly across the board.
 

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Looks good for the most part but the lighting changes are quite stark and suck a bit of the atmosphere out in some of them.
 
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Maybe I'm just so used to the darker look of the original ME, but those environment comparison shots in some ways look like they're lacking in a lot of the atmosphere that the original had. Like, obviously there are a lot of upgrades with the new version and I'm definitely not going to say it looks worse because that'd be ridiculous, but I liked the darker look of the original. It's particularly noticeable in the blizzard shot where it's much more brighter now than before and as a result it looks sort of washed out.

Regardless, I'm getting this day one anyways and I'm sure when I'm actually playing it I won't really mind/notice. It's just sort of jarring when they're right next to each other. Characters look great minus the weird choice of tight fitting outfit for Liara.
 
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Looks great, but I definitely see what people mean about the Liara thing.

They should have fixed that scientist outfit so it wasn't so "booby".
 
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Man Suicide Mission is such an incredible song. I cant wait for this. Other than Andromeda, I haven't played Mass Effect since I 1k'ed ME3 back in 2012.
 
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This will essentially be my first real experience with the series. So excited!
 
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It is my opinion that there's not a big jump on this remastered on terms of upgrades and modders have done waaaay better a lot of years ago, still, will get it on a big sale.
 
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Did someone accidentally hire Crowbcat to do their trailer?

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It's like art direction has been toggled off in the settings.
 
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hydruxo said:
Maybe I'm just so used to the darker look of the original ME, but those environment comparison shots in some ways look like they're lacking in a lot of the atmosphere that the original had. Like, obviously there are a lot of upgrades with the new version and I'm definitely not going to say it looks worse because that'd be ridiculous, but I liked the darker look of the original. It's particularly noticeable in the blizzard shot where it's much more brighter now than before and as a result it looks sort of washed out.

Regardless, I'm getting this day one anyways and I'm sure when I'm actually playing it I won't really mind/notice. It's just sort of jarring when they're right next to each other. Characters look great minus the weird choice of tight fitting outfit for Liara.
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No, i agree, i prefer the darker lighting with heavier shadows
 
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Soj said:
It's like art direction has been toggled off in the settings.
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Although I think one of ME1's shortcoming is underdeveloped art, I wouldn't go as far as say it has its art direction "toggled off". For example, in Noveria it was very hard to see some of the buildings in the background when you're driving the Mako, on account of the storm being so thick. The LE fixed that and now the art style can shine much more. And it makes me wonder if the deicion back in ME1 was due to technical limitations. I mean, those very buildings are in the cover of ME1 art book!
 
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Noveria looks better to me in the remaster but I can see why people prefer the original look. It's a lateral change.
 
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the square pattern they've put on ME1 armors sucks a lot and I much prefer the original!
Garrus' ME2 armor looks worse.

Otherwise, incredible job all around
 
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SofNascimento said:
Although I think one of ME1's shortcoming is underdeveloped art, I wouldn't go as far as say it has its art direction "toggled off". For example, in Noveria it was very hard to see some of the buildings in the background when you're driving the Mako, on account of the storm being so thick. The LE fixed that and now the art style can shine much more. And it makes me wonder if the deicion back in ME1 was due to technical limitations. I mean, those very buildings are in the cover of ME1 art book!
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I think a lot of the things that are being called "atmosphere" were 100% technical limitations.
 
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I honestly prefer the original color of Feros and Noveria.
  • The azure blue white and grey sky of Feros was more distinct and felt very alien. Now Feros looks like Tuchanka from ME2 with saturated yellow browns.
  • Noveria loses a lot of saturation and looks more like a regular snow map rather than the impenetrable dark blue color before. It also results in losing the visual signification of the different orange lighting beacons because they stand out less.

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Kinthey

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Not any outrageous changes but I generally prefer it when it sticks to the original vision. They did a great job with most aspects though, like the face models which keep the original appearance intact while substantially upgrading the fidelity
 
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I don't love some of these changes, stylistically/artistically. I'm sure it will look fine overall, but uh....eh. I'm trying to be fair, knowing this is mostly a new team, and they are working within an older framework.
 
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Beth Cyra said:
Any level of increasing sexualization for a character should be pushed back on, especially if when it's so blatant.

Like Liara at this stage in her career is still very much a scientist and a dork, why do her Boobs need to be more prominent?
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I have no idea. In the original she's an excited young scientist and her design totally matched that.
 
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Samiya said:
uhh, using saturation and lighting is super important parts of art direction and is literally what establishing an 'atmosphere' is about...
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Thanks for the explanation, I had no idea. My point is turning color saturation and contrast up or down obviously changes the 'look' of the image, but I think many decide to call it 'atmosphere' when that word encompasses a huge range of things from VFX to ambient occlusion to depth-of-field to light sources and yeah, color as well.

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I don't love some of these changes, artistically. I'm sure it will look fine overall, but uh....eh. I'm trying to be fair, knowing this is mostly a new team.
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There's quite a few veterans from the original trilogy on this. Much of the artistic changes went through Derek Watts, the original art director.
 
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Looking good, every excuse to replay ME1 is OK with me. I love driving on these barren planets looking for resources etc. The skyboxes, sound and overall mood on them is spot on for me and I really want to see all this upgarded.
 
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The texture changes are almost universally positive, but I don't understand why some of these were featured so prominently in the trailer. For example, the way the bump-mapping highlights are applied on Garrus' armor looks distracting:

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I don't disagree about it looking much better it just kind of looks like she's looking in two different directions.
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Her eyes do look like they're tracking two different directions in that picture, as though the curvature of the head determined their orientation. I assume that's just a default-state thing, and when cinematic rigging is active, it will be better; My guess is it's more a fluke of the particular image/angle than anything else.
 
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Kinthey

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Isn't it a bit funny that they first show the remastered version and then the original? Probably has a better effect the other way around. My first instinct was "yep, that's what Thane used to look like, oh wait, that's the remastered version, the original looks much worse"
 
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Thanks for the explanation, I had no idea. My point is turning color saturation and contrast up or down obviously changes the 'look' of the image, but I think many decide to call it 'atmosphere' when that word encompasses a huge range of things from VFX to ambient occlusion to depth-of-field to light sources and yeah, color as well.
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my point is that obviously saturation and lighting contributes to atmosphere (just like VFX, ambient occlusion, dof, etc, do), so your post lol'ing at people who find that the changes in saturation and lighting impacts the atmosphere is a very perplexing contribution.
 
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