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|System | This CY | Last CY | LTD |
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+-------+------------+------------+-------------+found the source where 100k sales thing from matsuyama came from
松山洋氏トークライブイベントで明かされた『エンタメ薬』後日譚 - ファミ通.com
2017年11月7日、サイバーコネクトツーの代表取締役社長、松山洋氏のトークライブイベントがクリーク・アンド・リバー社本社にて開催された。このイベントは、松山氏の著作『エンターテインメントという薬 -光を失う少年にゲームクリエイターが届けたもの-』の出版を記念したもの。ここでは書籍の“後日譚”が明らかにされた。その模様をお届けしよう。www.famitsu.com
Seminar Talk at Creek and River by CyberConnect2’s Matsuyama Hiroshi | Fire Sanctuary
The CEO of CyberConnect 2, Matsuyama Hiroshi, held a really interesting seminar for game creators and those interested in the topic. Although, I am hardly part of the industry, the interest and passion has always been there. I was able to attend this event, although I arrived a little after it...firesanctuary.com
If he said what he said and did a low level analysis referring to completely ignorant audience the false information is where exactly.
That's not the false information I mean
The article is clear I think, a whole analysis based on full generalisation and then we delete all these because he says it depends on the game and everything has to do with false information and attacking creators. Sorry, but I can't follow.
There's big difference between us that what I posted is false information and I'm attaching creators. I had huge disagreements with this article and continue to have them. If you think this is a good analysis it's fine, I don't.
The particular comment being debated here isn't very reflective of reality, though. (I don't think it was intended to be, though. It's quite clearly a throwaway comment in a talk focused about something else.)
Pretty much.
Your original post talked for filtering the info through Google Translate, surface level understanding and then making assumptions about what the overarching point of the talk is, culminating in the perpetuation of false information.
I agree with this post but going back not even that many users commented on the 100k remark.
Let's just say drive by posts have increased a lot lately for threads that are monitored and are supposed to be so much moderated.
First off - great to hear from you again cvxfreak! You should really pop in more often - you always have a great deal of insight to offer with respect to Japan in particular.
Going off of your translation, it does seem the CEO had a bad take. If there's more in his book or the summary of the presentation is flawed, then whatever, but providing only an upper barrier for profitability, then providing a base assumption as an industry standard of about 100k sales, and finally followed by giving a conclusion based on that assumption, that only 10-20% of games are profitable, does seem like a large generalization of the market that is pretty terrible of a take. If the industry standard shouldn't be taken at face value, he shouldn't be providing a conclusion utilizing that standard for the audience to absorb.
Google Translate also includes the "of course it depends on the product" part though. So the dig at people not being able to read Japanese being the reason they don't agree seems a bit of a low blow. I think it was pretty obvious Chris was just using some hyperbole to talk about an honestly pretty bad presentation. A dig and low blow that other people who have an axe to grind with Chris now seem to be copying as well. I don't think that's a good way to make these threads less passive-aggressive.
