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Media is Incapable of Handling Issues that Have No Nuance. AP "Fact" Check: Democrats Also Responsible for Shut Down Because They Won't Fund The Wall
- Thread starter excelsiorlef
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The shut down happened in December, the Dems took the House in January...huh?
Some of these news outlets are just as bad as the Republican party with the way they enable Trump for their precious clicks.
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Media can't fully take anyone's side as they can't offend potential viewers. No matter how full of shit the other side is.
So it becomes "fair and balanced" no matter how many hoops you have to jump through.
The consequences of media running for profit rather than for truth.
So it becomes "fair and balanced" no matter how many hoops you have to jump through.
The consequences of media running for profit rather than for truth.
I kiiiind of understand what they might be going for with this - e.g. Democrats holding firm is why this issue hasn't been resolved.
But, that is horribly worded and it doesn't even strike me as something that needs to be fact checked.
Disappointing.
But, that is horribly worded and it doesn't even strike me as something that needs to be fact checked.
Disappointing.
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It's the consequence of their hyper fear of being too liberal, so they just distort actual reality. It's maddening and cowardly and it's going to hurt people.
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I mean it makes sense if you're an amoral shithead who thinks there's no moral difference between the wall and not the wall.
Ehh I wouldn't go that far. Yes some shitty outlets are but a significant number place the blame on Trump where it belongs.
AP FACT CHECK: People put the blame for lions eating faces on lions. But it takes two to tango. Lion's love of eating faces is one reason. People having faces is the other.
The tweet was intended to point out the people's refusal to not have their face eaten, which proceeded the lions demand to eat everyones face.
The tweet was intended to point out the people's refusal to not have their face eaten, which proceeded the lions demand to eat everyones face.
The whole thing is an abject disaster. I saw that the Washington Post published an Op-Ed about how Trump won last night, and Schumer and Pelosi lost. Media hides behind this idea that they're providing an enlightened perspective that's fair and balanced, all the while giving a platform to criminals and liars that would be treated as pariahs in a sane society, unshackled by the perpetual drive for money. I'm just sick about the entire thing. Sicker than I usual am, and I pretty much always have one foot in the grave!
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Like you could replace any amoral vile action in this.
Democrats: Trump won't end shutdown unless all Gay people are Locked up in Camps, this is on him because we're not going to let him do that.
AP: Well actually Fact Check! Actually the shutdown is not just on him, you could fund the government Democrats if you just would let him lock up all Gay people in camps. It takes two to tango.
Motherfuckers.
Democrats: Trump won't end shutdown unless all Gay people are Locked up in Camps, this is on him because we're not going to let him do that.
AP: Well actually Fact Check! Actually the shutdown is not just on him, you could fund the government Democrats if you just would let him lock up all Gay people in camps. It takes two to tango.
Motherfuckers.
i mean thats the thing, is that basically thats circular logic that makes no sense
the government shut down because he wants the wall, and he allowed that to happen. his failure to successfully compromise or simply drop the issue means that he effectively shut down the government himself
democrats not bowing down to his random demands is in no way a reason to put any blame on democrats, thats like saying that he could do anything at all he wants and that others share blame if they dont come to fruition
They're so terrified of being called partisan for telling the truth by the same people that already call them enemy of the people
Too liberal will piss off Trumpsters.
They're not being too conservative either.
So it's always about straddling that fence and not offend either side too much while coming up with a clickbait headline so the $$ rolls in.
To paraphrase Orwell, cliches (in politics and elsewhere) are just packets of aspirin to keep the brain anesthetized.
Resetera users blame AP for spreading malicious falsehoods, but it takes two to tango. AP's Twitter being run by rubes is one reason for the dumb false equivalency. Resetera users giving them attention is another.
So does this mean when Republicans obstruct something next time... saaaaaayyyyy a Medicaid For All proposal... than the gov't will shut down because Republicans aren't giving into the Democratic president's demands and it could simply be solved by Republicans acquiescing? Somehow I think not.
In light of this... one quick ray of hope:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-has-lost-ground-in-the-shutdown-blame-game/
In light of this... one quick ray of hope:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-has-lost-ground-in-the-shutdown-blame-game/
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You can't just blame this on some idiot.... The AP is actively defending the tweet and you know keeping it up, it's their stance.
I love how ignorant this is.
Prior to the shutdown, every Senator (Democrats included) voted to fund the government. Trump refused to allow that bill to move forwards.
The government shut down before the Democrats gained control of the house.
How the hell did they cause the shut down?
Prior to the shutdown, every Senator (Democrats included) voted to fund the government. Trump refused to allow that bill to move forwards.
The government shut down before the Democrats gained control of the house.
How the hell did they cause the shut down?
I saw this tweet earlier and it really nails the issue here. Disingenuously building artificial issues to look evenhanded.
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Palestinians: Israel is killing us. The violence against our people must end.
AP: Fact Check, it takes two to tango, you could stop this if you just let them kill you.
AP: Fact Check, it takes two to tango, you could stop this if you just let them kill you.
I love all of you guys in Etcetera, but it is kind of funny to see us accuse others of not being able to have a nuanced view.
The obsession with artificial balance in media is more dangerous and more insidious than the full on fascist propaganda of Fox and it's ilk, in my opinion.
You need to call out the authors of the article that was linked to in that Tweet: Cal Woodward (@CalWd on Twitter) and Colleen Long (@ctlong1 on Twitter), not just the social media person handling that Twitter account.
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This is the opposite of that, there is no nuance here, the wall is wrong period, that's the point of my thread title, AP can't handle a situation where there is flat out a wrong and a right position so they manufacture nuance. They're actively distorting reality.
Two years since this man has taken office and the media still finds ways to give him an out. Unreal.