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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/22/microsoft-workers-protest-480m-hololens-military-deal.html
Dozens of Microsoft employees have signed a letter protesting the company's $480 million contract to supply the U.S. Army with augmented reality headsets intended for use on the battlefield.

Under the terms of the deal, the headsets, which place holographic images into the wearer's field of vision, would be adapted to "increase lethality" by "enhancing the ability to detect, decide and engage before the enemy," according to a government description of the project. Microsoft was awarded the contract in November.

"We are a global coalition of Microsoft workers, and we refuse to create technology for warfare and oppression," the employees state in the letter, which was published on an internal message board and circulated via email to employees at the company Friday. More than 50 Microsoft employees signed their names to the letter. Microsoft employees almost 135,000 people worldwide.

The letter, addressed to Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella, and president and chief legal officer Brad Smith, notes that the company has previously licensed technology to the military – including HoloLens for use in training – but has never before "crossed the line into weapons development".

It adds that the program, officially called the Integrated Visual Augmentation System, turns "warfare into a simulated 'video game,' further distancing soldiers from the grim stakes of war and the reality of bloodshed."

The signatories demand that Microsoft cancel the IVAS contract, cease to develop weapons technology and draft an acceptable use policy publicly clarifying those commitments. They also demand an independent ethics review board to ensure compliance with this policy.

The open letter comes days before Microsoft is expected to unveil HoloLens 2, an upgraded version of its augmented reality headset, at an event Sunday at Mobile World Congress, an annual technology conference in Barcelona, Spain.
 

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"It adds that the program, officially called the Integrated Visual Augmentation System, turns "warfare into a simulated 'video game,' further distancing soldiers from the grim stakes of war and the reality of bloodshed.""

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Typhon

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Remember the topic where people claimed Microsoft was the least evil of the big 5?
 

Canucked

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This seems a lot darker than all the "live on Nintendo" rumors....

Yikes.
 

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Zedelima

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Unfortunatly Microsoft will let the dust settle, fire the 50 workers and find someone that does the deal
 

Mortemis

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"Integrated Visual Augmentation System", abbreviated to IVAS, sounds like something straight out of a mecha anime.

This is pretty fucked up though.
 

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Unfortunatly Microsoft will let the dust settle, fire the 50 workers and find someone that does the deal
not necessarily, the google workers group that did the same thing regarding their military contract last year didn't experience any repercussions as far as i know

and they convinced google not to renew the contract once it was up
 

Kindekuma

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"It adds that the program, officially called the Integrated Visual Augmentation System, turns "warfare into a simulated 'video game,' further distancing soldiers from the grim stakes of war and the reality of bloodshed.""

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This is some MGS2 levels of shit
 

Felt

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Yeah I mean developers working on VR for productivity at Microsoft aren't going to suddenly drop their moral compass and develop weapons of death (for free). These executives show their sociopathic personalities way too easy.
 

jett

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Is this just the military wasting money on random shit? How can equipping grunts with this shit make any sort of financial sense?
 

Kin5290

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"It adds that the program, officially called the Integrated Visual Augmentation System, turns "warfare into a simulated 'video game,' further distancing soldiers from the grim stakes of war and the reality of bloodshed.""

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This sounds like complete nonsense. It reads like somebody ignorant enough to assume that firing a weapon is just a matter of "point and shoot". It's an old and overused trope.
 

Takuhi

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I don't understand why this is a controversy at all. Do we not want our military to have access to high technology? Do we not want American companies developing that technology? What exactly is gained by insisting that military technology is developed by companies who don't work on civilian technology?
 

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I don't understand why this is a controversy at all. Do we not want our military to have access to high technology? Do we not want American companies developing that technology? What exactly is gained by insisting that military technology is developed by companies who don't work on civilian technology?

Sure. Companies will always have military contracts. However, the story here is that these Microsoft employees intended to develop mass market consumer electronics. Not kill people.
 
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I don't understand why this is a controversy at all. Do we not want our military to have access to high technology? Do we not want American companies developing that technology? What exactly is gained by insisting that military technology is developed by companies who don't work on civilian technology?
There's no controversy. Employees for MS working on that tech don't want their work being used as tools of war.
 

Typhon

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I don't understand why this is a controversy at all. Do we not want our military to have access to high technology? Do we not want American companies developing that technology? What exactly is gained by insisting that military technology is developed by companies who don't work on civilian technology?

It's one thing when workers at a military contractor like Lockheed and making weapons. It's quite another when a consumer electronics company is. Can't blame the workers for not wanting their tech to kill people.
 

Jeffram

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"It adds that the program, officially called the Integrated Visual Augmentation System, turns "warfare into a simulated 'video game,' further distancing soldiers from the grim stakes of war and the reality of bloodshed.""

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That's some dark shit right there. There's a line between making better weapons to defend yourself with and making removing the humanity from your side of the equation.
 
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Remember the topic where people claimed Microsoft was the least evil of the big 5?
Right? That's why I'm big on not trying to paint companies like Google and Facebook as the epitome of evil even if you're strongly against their practices. People will turn other companies into their "friends" when other companies do things they really don't like.
 

Johnny Blaze

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I don't understand why this is a controversy at all. Do we not want our military to have access to high technology? Do we not want American companies developing that technology? What exactly is gained by insisting that military technology is developed by companies who don't work on civilian technology?
The people in the article clearly do not want, and they are working on it or could soon be working on it. Probably not what they signed up for.
 

killerrin

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Remember the topic where people claimed Microsoft was the least evil of the big 5?
Being the least evil doesn't mean that they aren't still evil. It's just near the bottom of the list categorized as evil.

On an employee level, these people are just doing their jobs... Though Microsoft's employees over the years have been shown to be more likely to blow the whistle compared to other companies employees.