Mitch McConnell is said to support Trump impeachment
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Ironically when Trump is on the ballot they seem to attract voters.
He didn't cost them all 3 branches. They solidly have the judicial.
There is no future for the GOP with Trump. They just lost two freaking Senate seats in Georgia for Christ sakes. Trump is absolutely toxic to large swaths of this country and they will never be able to put together a winning coalition with his voters. 2016 was an anomaly not likely to ever be repeated IMO.
The best thing they can do is excise Trump and try to win back the suburban and moderate votes which have shifted D in recent elections.
The best thing they can do is excise Trump and try to win back the suburban and moderate votes which have shifted D in recent elections.
Oh he suddenly has a change of heart?
Couldn't possibly have anything to do with this huh?
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Yeah, it might be better for GOP to ban Trump outright right after the election when there's still 3 years until primaries start for real, rather than wait and have him crawl back and disrupt the candidate pool
Do you have a link for that? Everything I've read so far states otherwise.
Yeah, I think this is the GOP's goal. Run someone who appears more sane and "compassionate" and yet will actually push the exact same fascist policies as Trump did. Then the GOP can actually say, "See! We're still sane and not Trump's party!" But then also be all, "We're not Trump supporters, but we're #1 with Trump supporters!" under the table.
Well, the problem is that the current GOP voter base only cares about Trump and not the rest of the GOP. And if you kick Trump out, those people aren't just going away. I guess you can try to refocus the love for Trump into just pure hatred for Dems, but that sure as hell didn't work for them in 2018.
It also allows them to recalibrate for 2024 instead of the specter of Trump hovering all of them and likely ensuring a 2024 loss.
Bingo. They don't need these voters again for 2 years. That's a lot of time for them to calm down and perhaps slightly slip from Trump's grasp, especially now that Trump is banned from most social media and doesn't have a direct line to keep up control. They might still be mad, but Republicans will still be much closer to supporting the awful things they want than Democrats will. Some may just not vote, but few will be pushed to the other side by it. The fear is more in being primaried than anything, but Trump has mixed results in turning out his base in primaries and with less access will likely have even less luck going forward. He's always struggled to get people to do what he wants if he isn't on the ballot himself.
I'll believe it when it'll happen. That said, I would understand why. Trump basically tried to have him killed, this and to save face.
I don't doubt that McConnell and others would like to excise Trump from the party to try and regain control of the reins and that this is a rare & tempting opportunity to that.
From their perspective the question is how much of a risk is it to the establishment GOP if they openly declare war on Trump? Supporting impeachment would definitely be an open declaration of war, there is no question about that, but they need to make sure it is a war they will likely win. I think Trump, the individual, could actually be reasonably well contained by this. For one losing his twitter lessens his ability to whip up rage and if he's barred from running in 2024 then it's harder to make himself the focus of national politics, which is the only reason that narcissist was interested in politics in the first place. Also his children are so pathetic that I seriously doubt that they are a threat.
Containing Trumpism is much more difficult. It's such a malignant cult and it's got such a stranglehold over US rightwing politics that I'm not sure how establishment republicans can take it down without serious collateral damage. What does Hawley, Marjorie Taylor Greene and all the other trumpers in the senate and especially the house do if McConnell helps get him impeached and convicted? If it does happen and a substantial number of pro-Trump republican congresspeople resign from the party, then I reckon the GOP are in big trouble 🍿.
From their perspective the question is how much of a risk is it to the establishment GOP if they openly declare war on Trump? Supporting impeachment would definitely be an open declaration of war, there is no question about that, but they need to make sure it is a war they will likely win. I think Trump, the individual, could actually be reasonably well contained by this. For one losing his twitter lessens his ability to whip up rage and if he's barred from running in 2024 then it's harder to make himself the focus of national politics, which is the only reason that narcissist was interested in politics in the first place. Also his children are so pathetic that I seriously doubt that they are a threat.
Containing Trumpism is much more difficult. It's such a malignant cult and it's got such a stranglehold over US rightwing politics that I'm not sure how establishment republicans can take it down without serious collateral damage. What does Hawley, Marjorie Taylor Greene and all the other trumpers in the senate and especially the house do if McConnell helps get him impeached and convicted? If it does happen and a substantial number of pro-Trump republican congresspeople resign from the party, then I reckon the GOP are in big trouble 🍿.
It's not about him doing the right thing. He's an opportunist. The GOP used Trump for all he could give them and now there is an opportunity to dump him.Me, believing that McConnell will do the right thing.
I'm inclined to believe Mitch wants to ditch Trump.
The GOP wants to purge the party from Trump and Trumpism as they see them a threat now, Trump to them is a loose canon they can't control and a potential rival in 2024 that can divide their party and siphon votes away from them.
If they play ball and impeach the orange shit stain, they can stop his 2024 bid dead in its tracks.
The GOP wants to purge the party from Trump and Trumpism as they see them a threat now, Trump to them is a loose canon they can't control and a potential rival in 2024 that can divide their party and siphon votes away from them.
If they play ball and impeach the orange shit stain, they can stop his 2024 bid dead in its tracks.
Liz Cheney just released a scathing statement ending with "I will impeach the president". Good chance this is happening.
Mitch needs to come out and say that he will vote to convict Trump. Come out of your shell for once, Mitch.
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Trump has no remaining utility other than as a sacrificial lamb.
Can't see it happening. Even though it doesn't make sense to continue to back a loser that loss all three branches of government and is getting less and less popular each day, somehow he's still Mitch's best shot at winning in 4 years and causing more permanent damage with his agenda.
Trump is no longer useful to him. They always knew what Trump was, and now they want to cut ties with a sinking ship.
Mitch already got what he wanted out of Trump, so why the hell not? It's not likely he'll get another Supreme Court nomination in before the 20th.
Republicans don't want to damage their potential future voters, even if they might just vote for Trump, the GOP thinks that they are republican voters and rather not look worse to them.
