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Monster Hunter: World |OT2| Cart Team Racing
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There is no way to cancel some of these long combos half way? Too many times now I've been mashing away at Tzitzi Ya Ku with my dual swords while the fucker was already long gone and using his flashing attack on me as a result.
Thanks for the breakdown. Also use Swaxes, so would you suggest going for a high raw damage then since they arent blazing fast? Something like Axe of demons or Nerg axe?
Game needs some Plesioth DLC with broken hip check. Had no idea
was in the game until that cut scene. Shame I fucking died in one hit but whatever. I should probably build some HR armour.
Lavasioth
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Swag axe is good at applying status ailments with sword mode, especially with the amp discharge. For raw damage diablos and nerg are good. The teo or bazel blast axes are also good, as are the barroth paralysis one and the jagras exhaust one.
Was it you I responded to in the last thread about this exact same topic?
Weapons that are "slow" and don't benefit much from elemental damage: Great Sword, Long Sword, Hammer, Hunting Horn, Switch Axe
Weapons that are "fast" and CAN benefit from elemental damage: SnS, Dual Blades, Lance, Gunlance, Charge Blade, Insect Glaive
That's not to say you can't consider elemental damage on a Long Sword or Swaxe, but keep in mind that you're going to PROBABLY have higher DPS when you gear for attack damage and not elemental damage with a high raw. But factors will play into that decision that a spreadsheet or calculation can't account for. You'll NEVER have a situation in the field where you can go ham with your top damage combo un-contested. It just doesn't really happen. You can get in ONE rotation when the monster is down or trapped? But don't rely on that as a sustained damage calc.
Faster weapons hit fast and for less damage, so the added elemental damage makes a difference. There's virtually no reason to do "damage calculations" unless you're going for record speed kills. The difference in damage output you'll get from sacrificing raw for elemental on a slow weapon might add 3-5 minutes to your fight? Maybe not even...It's really small and trivial.
There's a reason MonHun is called Fashion Hunter by vets. High skill play allows you to be extra creative with your look and not worry too much about "min/max" gear.
Triple Threat Throwdown.
Great Jagra + Great Jirros + Dodogama all in the Special Arena.
Good way to get decorations. I was getting 3-5 every run, but they were mostly level 1s with a few level 2s occasionally.
Oh shit, I should've been doing this last night instead of getting my ass kicked with Tempered Diablos T_T
I gave weakness exploit + spread shot/power shot a try and holy cow. Hitting for nearly 200 damage with a power shot feels amazing.
So Exciteable A-Lister is gotta be Ace Cadet from 4U, right ?
- He sometimes slipped out on using his monster pun. "Pain in the Astalos" and "That's so Rad-A-Los", with him immediately correct his pun on the latter (kinda show how he is grown up).
- One of the generic hunter dialogue mention how one of the excited A-Lister mentioned something about "Shagaroo" from the Old World.
This is so true, my first few time joining Kirin HR hunt (haven't unlocked the quest), someone always carted in the first 3 minutes lmao (and always those that can't block like DB or LS user). It's pain the astalos using lifepowders and using Recover ammo to keep them alive.
Then after I unlocked his quest, it's very very smooth going solo.
- He sometimes slipped out on using his monster pun. "Pain in the Astalos" and "That's so Rad-A-Los", with him immediately correct his pun on the latter (kinda show how he is grown up).
- One of the generic hunter dialogue mention how one of the excited A-Lister mentioned something about "Shagaroo" from the Old World.
This is so true, my first few time joining Kirin HR hunt (haven't unlocked the quest), someone always carted in the first 3 minutes lmao (and always those that can't block like DB or LS user). It's pain the astalos using lifepowders and using Recover ammo to keep them alive.
Then after I unlocked his quest, it's very very smooth going solo.
Did you augment your armor with streamstones or did you jump straight into the Kirin fight without fighting some tier 2 tempered monsters like you were supposed to? With augmented armor Kirin doesn't hit too hard.
Mh4U will be the least jarring one to go back to and it has a ton of monsters so you should probably start there. If you still want more MH after that I would recommend 3U (The best game in the series IMO).
People will no doubt recommend 4U gameplay wise. But in term of monsters, Generations, being an anniversary/greatest-of title, have monsters representation from all four previous generations, including lots from third gen and second gen.
Edit : 4U are missing Lagiacrus, Nibelsnarf, Uragaan, Agnaktor, Duramboros, Amatsu and Alatreon from third gen and the Crabs, Blangonga, Lavasioth, Plesioth and NARGACUGA.
The new Spirit Helmbreaker move in MHW deals a ton of seperate hits tho. Would that not make LS a lot more viable for elemental damage in World?
Farm some tier 2 tempered monsters to augment your armor in preparation for the tempered elder dragons.
Nice.
The only Turf war I don't have footage of is Paolumu Vs Legiana and Paolumu Vs Odagoran. Once I've got those I should have them all. :D
No. You get items called streamstones from tier 2 tempered monsters that can be used to raise the level cap on your armor.
yeah, i've gone solid elemental longsword, & have no complaints. more would always be nice, but i'm pretty satisfied with the current levels of damage :) ...
Playing random stuff online. Farming mats for gear I want by doing SOS.
I hadn't seen anyone answer this yet, but I did pick up a Guard deco. If it matters, I received it after capturing a tempered Uragaan. It's possible you haven't seen anyone with it because it's a 2 slot deco, not sure.
EDIT: Yeah, looks like I was mistaken. I got "Guard Up," from tempered Uragaan and not "Guard." Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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Well I went hard on into LS so I have one of each element. I don't really compared it's usefulness but better be save I guess.
I honestly don't want to know anymore if it was a waste of time lol
It's a good idea in theory, however in practice and in numerical analysis, it's clear that raw damage is the way to go for longsword. Even more so than in previous games.
Longsword has 2 huge raw boosts. Red sword for +20% raw, and the short 30% raw boost that you get for 2 seconds after a successful foresight slash.
Also it has access to raw boosts that every other weapon type has. Namely 30% raw boost for 20 seconds after a dodge with evasion mantle, and 10% raw boost from the elementless decoration (2 slot).
So all of this stacks in the favor of raw damage. Divine slasher will out damage every longsword in the game in 95% of situations (don't want to say 100% because I haven't run the numbers on everything since we don't have access to all the numbers yet).
Fun fact, evasion mantle also works with foresight slash, but you have to be a little tighter on the timing since the window for successful foresight is larger than the window for successful evasion mantle buff.
I'm leveling up Shieldspire just for my rematch with Tempered Diablos.
Have you seen similar numerical analysis for other weapon types? Really curious about great sword, lance, hammer, sns, and dual blades and haven't seen anything too mathy anywhere
Just hit HR 29. Probably spent way too long just helping randoms kill things and farming beasts for nice things.. my playtime is 85 hours :S
Should probably start another weapon up soon. Picked up the insect glaive in the beta and haven't put it down. It was over 60 hours before I realised you can get the boosts by just pressing L2 + triangle followed by L2 and O. I'm an idiot. Spent a long time working hard to get those boosts xD It's now super easy to be fully boosted flying machine. The big xi elder chap didn't even touch me.
Should probably start another weapon up soon. Picked up the insect glaive in the beta and haven't put it down. It was over 60 hours before I realised you can get the boosts by just pressing L2 + triangle followed by L2 and O. I'm an idiot. Spent a long time working hard to get those boosts xD It's now super easy to be fully boosted flying machine. The big xi elder chap didn't even touch me.
Pro fucking tips about the black scales. I only die because he stuns me and I don't have enough time to Superman dive.
For GS and Hammer, raw all the way for sure. Slow hitting weapons generally favor high raw. Unfortunately Capcom didn't add any really solid options for an elementless build for GS. The only weapons that can benefit from the decoration either have too low base raw or cannot get white sharpness with handicraft. The two best options seem to be Vaal's GS and G. Jagras GS after augmenting 3x.
For hammer, Diablos all the way. Nothing comes close. In general diablos weapons are overtuned in this game. It's almost always the best option (with some exceptions).
SnS and Lance I haven't considered personally since I haven't played those weapons in World yet. All I can comment is that speedrunners seem to be favoring Barroth + jump attack spam for SnS since the motion values are pretty high on those attacks. I imagine if your playstyle is more focused on quick attacks then element focused builds will pull ahead as it previously did for SnS. I am seeing a lot of odogaron lance + 3 piece teostra set bonus (no sharpness loss on crits). It's easy to cap your affinity with this weapon and it already has base white sharpness.
Dual blades, element is still the way to go. 2 piece rathalos and stacking crit and +element skills to cap your elemental damage is very popular. Though Diablos duals + elementless is still very powerful.
I don't have any of the streamstones I need I think. I use rarity 8 gear barring one item and none have the option for augmentation yet.
Could just be I'm misreading, misunderstanding or not even looking at the right thing. Hah.
Oh, you mean you have the option right? I thought you meant you didn't even see the ability unlocked.
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