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More coal-fired power plants have closed under Trump than in Obama's first term
- Thread starter NoName999
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I feel like a lot of people in these mining tows have a bizarre attachment to the profession. Their grandfather was a coal minster, and their father was a coal miner, so they must be a coal miner too even if it makes no sense in todays world. It's like they're unable or refuse to comprehend the wind is blowing in a new direction and they need to adapt.
yeah this along with the report from china last week that they have the start of a solar plant that is not cheaper than coal in the area its in..
fuck Trump and the money hats... coal is going away even faster now that there are numerous options that are cheaper.
of course won't stop the Cheeto in chief from talking about how he is killing regulations to bring back coal jobs.
fuck Trump and the money hats... coal is going away even faster now that there are numerous options that are cheaper.
of course won't stop the Cheeto in chief from talking about how he is killing regulations to bring back coal jobs.
people with limited education fear change? I think you might have something.
I'm trying to muster sympathy. But then I remember that they'll blame Obama and still vote for Trump in 2020.
Umm, didn't Obama already do this? You can't convince stupid people stuck in their ways that a better alternative is out there.
I don't know if its "bizarre" at all. But I get what your saying.
This dignity to work bullshit is going to be a nightmare to overcome in this country. You're gonna see this level of logic apply to the whole labor system. People are attacking autonomous vehicles. And I mean literally attacking them.
Jobs cult culture is a major disease from which this entire country is infected with.
Wasn't there a report that when Obama set up job training resources in those areas nobody showed up because they wanted to keep the coal jobs.
Or you can have a successful govt program where you do teach them to code, then you can defund it after getting the votes from the community you lied to.
You know, like the ARC.
http://time.com/4793315/donald-trump-budget-appalachian-regional-commission/
You aren't teaching them to code. The ones that can code are the ones who were able to college, and they already moved out and didn't come back. The brain drain is real.
It's not about limited educational opportunities, it's about the people who can't take advantage of them.
It's absolutely bizarre to me. If I could see on the horizon that my profession was seriously threatened by new technologies, I'd start looking for safer career paths. I certainly wouldn't try and King Cnut it.
Most things will be renewable in 15 years because it is now cheaper to produce wind and soon solar in a lot of places. This will fix itself, but we need a NASA sized department to research and reverse climate change for the coming centuries so that Earth is still inhabitable for future gene.
I don't think this is true. I've known people to switch from a trade-based jobs to a software development jobs with training. The people that left to go to college in these towns most likely had parents that wanted their kids to have a better life. Those that didn't leave could probably learn something new as long as they were getting paid to do so while they learn/transition.
You can teach some of them, yeah. But they're likely the ones who are already most successful and can weather a transition anyway. They're not where the big problem is.
Well presumably if you're capable of this level of self awareness/foresight but you're still a worker rather than an owner, you vote Democrat. Which is to say, selective blindness about the past, present and future is necessary to be a Republican voter.
I get what you're saying. I remember seeing a piece on Vice News about exactly this, and I found this similar story while quickly looking for it.
https://www.npr.org/sections/alltec...de-a-new-path-for-laid-off-miners-in-kentucky
The bigger point is that Trump is failing these people not only on his campaign promises, but also on helping them transition too.
My understanding is that shale gas ("fracking") is a bigger threat to coal than any climate change policy, and since Trump Admin eschews any environmental regulation shale gas is simply taking it's economic course. At least, I want to say that's the case.
The fact of the matter is that the number of remaining coal miners in this country is absolutely tiny in the scheme of things. Trump just plays to gullible idiots that associate coal mining with the good old days.
It's weird. Like there are actual ghost mining towns from the 1800s where people moved on after whatever they were mining was gone. People are way more mobile now but refuse to leave to their little town with no real career prospects.
Wife is from WV but her family luckily has never been involved in coal. I'm moving there with her in the near future and keep trying to focus on the benefits of the area (natural wonders, easy weekend trips to major cities, cheap cost of living) but the sense of despair in the state worries me. We took a drive through coal country when we visited last and it was like something out of a post-apocalypse movie in a lot of the towns we passed through. Easily 4 out of 5 businesses were shuttered.
Even people with degrees fear change.
That's why everyone kinds of need to be walked through changes after all.