The alt text (i.e. caption or description) for the photo mentions CRT Geom. It's one of many included with the ReShade port of RetroArch shaders.
N64: Recompiled - Turn any N64 game into a native PC port (Majora's Mask currently playable)
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The alt text (i.e. caption or description) for the photo mentions CRT Geom. It's one of many included with the ReShade port of RetroArch shaders.
Yeah - that's the one.
And these are the settings used:
It's my go-to shader for modern games that I want to add scanlines to - because I think it's a pretty nice approximation of using a PC CRT monitor, and you can easily specify the resolution used in the shader if you want to play a PC game and make it look like it's running on say a 480p display, or match the resolution of modern pixel art games (which may not use the standard 240p).
I use HDR to account for any loss of brightness (Special K - or even AutoHDR/RTX HDR) but there's also a luminance boost setting near the bottom as a last resort.
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Yeah - that's the one.
And these are the settings used:
It's my go-to shader for modern games that I want to add scanlines to - because I think it's a pretty nice approximation of using a PC CRT monitor, and you can easily specify the resolution used in the shader if you want to play a PC game and make it look like it's running on say a 480p display, or match the resolution of modern pixel art games (which may not use the standard 240p).
I use HDR to account for any loss of brightness (Special K - or even AutoHDR/RTX HDR) but there's also a luminance boost setting near the bottom as a last resort.
Thank you both, especially Pargon for sharing your settings! Just waiting for texture pack support before I try out the MM recomp.
P.S.: Didn't even know that alt text for pics was a thing here, haha.
How much does a crt shader alone help the image at 4k look more natural?
In the abstract, I think detail-textures of some form would also help when rendering purely at high res. In one sense what you want is just some form or noise pattern to help your brain fill in for the lack of detail in the original texture work. Crt filters have a similar effect in its own way I find.
In the abstract, I think detail-textures of some form would also help when rendering purely at high res. In one sense what you want is just some form or noise pattern to help your brain fill in for the lack of detail in the original texture work. Crt filters have a similar effect in its own way I find.
In that DF video they showed og N64 footage, kind of interesting how how organic the original edges look, I'm not sure what the entire reasoning behind that is, something to do with filtering? perhaps the 3-point filtering?
It looks like it''s adding 'detail' here:
The way the leaf pattern blends is different too, Is this an anomaly of using a high res or is the filtering different?
It looks like it''s adding 'detail' here:
The way the leaf pattern blends is different too, Is this an anomaly of using a high res or is the filtering different?
"Shitty SoH port" I know I'm a few days late, but what the fuck is this drive-by slander nonsense? The SoH port is fucking fantastic, the fact that it has what might be best described as "minor nitpicks" meaning it's a "shitty port" is fucking insane to me. Like, really?
"The bomb explosions look slightly off," "this interpolation made years before the project we're currently talking about even existed isn't as good at super high frame rates, mostly just on Epona" yeah bro, some real dire shit.
Look man, this port is excellent, but it also has its problems. For one, the QoL and options are dramatically fewer than SoH. Doesn't even have right stick camera control yet, let alone fun randomizer stuff that really gives these project legs, custom resolutions, etc. They're "planned" but none of us knows what that means or how long it will take.
That said, it's still excellent, these features missing do not make it shitty. It also can randomly experience a huge stutter for no reason, which I would cite as a far bigger issue than a single z-fighting instance on Hyrule Field or Epona's legs looking a little odd at super high framerates viewed from an angle.
No need to shit on one thing to enjoy another.
The filtering looks ok, its the higer resolution rendering and the effect that has on the anti aliasing, absence of dithering, de-dithering, the divot filter and other VI passes that are missing from the port. IMHO it all looks to clean and sterile, like the virtual console or an HLE plugin does.
RT64 will be much more accurate visually to real hardware than this currently is as they are looking to implement all that stuff, hopefully that trickles down into this as well.
I see, thanks for the insight on this! Great to know they are looking to implement these effects as even though I might not want to implement them all certainly some of them would be nice to use with my preferred display output (CRT). Such a cool project.
Which doesn't necessarily mean it won't happen for other consoles. It would just be a different project with different challenges, which might or might not be possible to overcome.
This video shows that Banjo-Tooie is also already working with the tool to some extent.
Give them to meeeeeeeee
No there's nothing special about N64 games, a Jak and Daxter II decompilation is all but done done and starting to get PC ports, PS1 Silent Hill is underway too.
Well until you get to Wii/360/PS3, I don't think there will be a problem outside of maybe the original Xbox. You just need a few successful decomps to learn from and libraries to get built for GC/PS1/PS2/Dreamcast.
However, decomps and static recomps will need to figure out what they want to do for ingresses into the overlays provided by the operating system on gens from Wii/360/PS3 on which will be a challenge. I think this can also be overcome just the difficulty is much higher and needs a lot of persistence
That has nothing to do with this project. This is static recompilation, NOT decompilation. Static recompilation has not happened for any other 3D capable console so far, only N64. Could it happen with other consoles? Maybe.
Ok, I read their question differrently. I have no doubt that if this can be done with N64 then it can be done with other consoles too, just needs the right people.
This is just from using high res instead of original res mainly + not using the poor analytical AA the N64 uses.In that DF video they showed og N64 footage, kind of interesting how how organic the original edges look, I'm not sure what the entire reasoning behind that is, something to do with filtering? perhaps the 3-point filtering?
It looks like it''s adding 'detail' here:
The way the leaf pattern blends is different too, Is this an anomaly of using a high res or is the filtering different?
Ah you're right, res plays a part for sure, just messed around with an emulator and it makes the sprite edges incredibly stark at x4. x2 is the sweet spot for me (plus further blending from a CRT) without asset cohesion losing congruence.
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technically yes but there is a bug where one c button won't work
You already can with WS project + lossless scaling. Same for all Sonic games.
View: https://youtube.com/shorts/GFe2ab9g8-U
Works for me on Steam Deck, all buttons functional.
Just Bluetooth paired the controller and remapped the buttons one by one in the Steam UI.
1.1 update
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Boy, we wished we have something like this for SEGA Saturn lol
Hell yeah, can't wait to try the new update. Also Dario I hope things are going well with the texture pack support
I know this sounds dumb as hell, but I could almost cry. This game means so much to me.
I was just thinking out loud a bit about what potential this could be from Nintendo's perspective…
Could this open up a better way for them to bring over retro games (N64, SNES, NES… etc) through their Switch Online? Right now, I assume those are pure emulations and therefore, are not recompiled to the targeted system, right? This would just be a fantastic way to be able to play any of their retro games. As well, going a bit further, could Switch Online type subscription also be used as a way to bring their retro games to other platforms such as PC, mobile, other consoles… etc? Maybe through cloud gaming like Nvidia GeForce Now. I imagine that can be a great way to gain a good amount of new revenue stream without significant impact to their consoles because people will still want to but their new games on new consoles. If there is enough revenue to pay for a team to dedicate to this, the possibilities seem endless if Nintendo can see this potential.
Could this open up a better way for them to bring over retro games (N64, SNES, NES… etc) through their Switch Online? Right now, I assume those are pure emulations and therefore, are not recompiled to the targeted system, right? This would just be a fantastic way to be able to play any of their retro games. As well, going a bit further, could Switch Online type subscription also be used as a way to bring their retro games to other platforms such as PC, mobile, other consoles… etc? Maybe through cloud gaming like Nvidia GeForce Now. I imagine that can be a great way to gain a good amount of new revenue stream without significant impact to their consoles because people will still want to but their new games on new consoles. If there is enough revenue to pay for a team to dedicate to this, the possibilities seem endless if Nintendo can see this potential.
Amazing. I can't wait for even more updates. The GOAT getting even better!
It's going pretty well! I put up a testing branch here so texture pack developers can start working with it as I won't be able to finish it until I get back home in a month. Nerrel sent me a DDS version to test with and it looks pretty amazing.
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Thanks for all the great work. Looking forward to the finished product.
I you are talking about Nintendo releasing official enhanced versions of classic games thanks to this tools, they don't really need it. They have the source code of every game they ever developed, so if they wanted they can skip the process of decompile/recompile and just compile the game with another platform in mind (Using another graphics API and so on)
It probably misbehaves if the target framerate doesn't match what your display allows. External frame limiters are a bit annoying to work with how this port generates the frames, as it generates them for what it thinks it's the refresh rate, not what something else artificially limits it as. Otherwise you end up with a lot of drift that ruins the frame pacing. I recommend comparing what refresh rate is reported in the menu option and what your display is actually doing.
Deadzone adjustment! Nice!
Thanks for your valuable contributions on so many fronts.
Right, I meant for retro games which have since lost their source codes (Ahem, Squaresoft of old!)
As well, I feel this Zelda project serves as a pretty good indicator as to the quality of life improvements that fans want to see. Ultimately, if Nintendo see this as an opportunity, I think there is a lot of potential to make this into a NSO cloud gaming platform. Like I said, I see only positives in this from the perspective of a company like Nintendo if they embrace it.