Nancy Pelosi announces 7 Impeachment managers; McConnell and Schumer announce Senate floor decorum/media rules
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Lotta rules, lotta rules. On the street we didn't have any rules. Well, maybe just one: no hits to the groin--home by dinner.
They got the only California guy they need. The rest are just his backup.
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Senators aren't really allowed to talk based on the rules they've agreed upon. It's going to be legal counsel vs legal counsel. Mitch not allowing audio recording is pure nonsense though. Seems like if they're going to allow serious proceedings, they don't want the public to have easily accessible sound bites or clips.
Schiff is the right guy for this. He was masterclass during the initial hearings.
But this will still be a shitshow. Luckily stupid watergate keeps providing more damning information.
But this will still be a shitshow. Luckily stupid watergate keeps providing more damning information.
Life has been overwhelming so I haven't been keeping up that much with politics... But did the House send all articles? I seem to remember Pelosi holding on them to force McConnell into actually doing his job instead of his promised sham trial?
I'm sure the Republicans will manage to do all the disgusting shit they always do, but hopefully all of this cuts down on the fuckery.
Please remove the Orange turd, that'd make my year.
I'm sure the Republicans will manage to do all the disgusting shit they always do, but hopefully all of this cuts down on the fuckery.
Please remove the Orange turd, that'd make my year.
no audio recording...
Well thats a wrap. They're best at saying "i was in the room, you didn't hear anything, and what I heard was the opposite of what the dems are saying."
Swalwell and Raskin are notably missing. I would've liked Raskin over Nadler (and Raskin to just take over Jerry's top chair in the Judiciary sooner rather than later). And Swalwell needed to sneak in there too as he was often the most onpoint after Schiff.
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The delay helped add new evidence, and the additional stories that popped up got several Senators to speak up about wanting a real trial. "Caving" doesn't seem like an appropriate description, no.
Looks like people online (ie reporters) were just being dramatic. Most of the trial will be televised, but deliberation periods will be press-restricted, and the press will not be allowed to freely interact with Senators during the proceedings.
This trial was always going to be a sham given the turt....em, person, who runs the Senate. The delay was the only card Pelosi had to play, but she couldn't play it forever.
Nice, I'm glad Schiff is a manager. He did a masterful job running the House Intel. Committee hearings. There were rumors he wouldn't be involved.
I feel like getting a televised trial between legal councils is the best outcome we could have expected with the impeachment inquiry.
It isn't likely to sway any Republican senators, but hopefully it continues to build the blue wave in 2020.
Looks like holding off the articles of impeachment worked, good job Pelosi.
It isn't likely to sway any Republican senators, but hopefully it continues to build the blue wave in 2020.
Looks like holding off the articles of impeachment worked, good job Pelosi.
It's not "caving." It was never going to be a permanent hold.
But holding allowed the McConnell and Graham to show their asses about a sham, and it pressured "moderate" republicans to consider votes for witness testimony, and it allowed further things to be added (see the current Lev Parnas shit). That's about as good it was going to get, so it was a good move to hold for a bit.
Holding indefinitely would be stupid and look terrible; the public is already in majority support for impeachment, you don't want to lose that support by fucking around too much. They can see that the republicans are trying to acquit him, which is why now people like Romney are open to witnesses - they are feeling the pressure, and thus an outright immediate acquittal as was previously planned by Graham and McConnell is off the table.
Mind you, it will still be a shit show, and the republicans will do their best to paint him as innocent. But that was always going to be the case; now dems go in their with a little more power than previously thought, especially if they are able to rally witness testimony, further allowing Trump's shady/illegal behavior to hit the limelight.
Impeachment/removal support is at an all time high at the moment (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/impeachment-polls/), and the dems are actually playing the political game here pretty well. But they have a tough battle ahead to control the messaging leading into the election, because that's truly the only way he can get removed.
But holding allowed the McConnell and Graham to show their asses about a sham, and it pressured "moderate" republicans to consider votes for witness testimony, and it allowed further things to be added (see the current Lev Parnas shit). That's about as good it was going to get, so it was a good move to hold for a bit.
Holding indefinitely would be stupid and look terrible; the public is already in majority support for impeachment, you don't want to lose that support by fucking around too much. They can see that the republicans are trying to acquit him, which is why now people like Romney are open to witnesses - they are feeling the pressure, and thus an outright immediate acquittal as was previously planned by Graham and McConnell is off the table.
Mind you, it will still be a shit show, and the republicans will do their best to paint him as innocent. But that was always going to be the case; now dems go in their with a little more power than previously thought, especially if they are able to rally witness testimony, further allowing Trump's shady/illegal behavior to hit the limelight.
Impeachment/removal support is at an all time high at the moment (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/impeachment-polls/), and the dems are actually playing the political game here pretty well. But they have a tough battle ahead to control the messaging leading into the election, because that's truly the only way he can get removed.