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Where will LeBron be taking his talents next season?

  • Cleveland (Staying at home)

    Votes: 34 13.0%
  • LA (LeBronzo)

    Votes: 116 44.4%
  • Philly (Trusting the Process)

    Votes: 47 18.0%
  • Houston

    Votes: 16 6.1%
  • Other

    Votes: 48 18.4%

  • Total voters
    261
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NinjaScooter

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Windhorst was just on the Lowe podcast

he said REGARDLESS of Kawhi or Paul George coming to Lakers

"51% LA, 40% Cavs, 9% Sixers"

He was asked why? "I can't say"

Vegas odds are currently 4/13 for Lakers

13/4 for Cavs who are the second best option

Windy also said "the decision will come around the July 4th holiday."

"it's gonna be less about the roster and more about happiness."

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If LeBron is cool with the young players, I'd honestly be fine with LeBron and PG and keeping the rest of the core instead of getting Kawhi.
 

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Windhorst was just on the Lowe podcast

he said REGARDLESS of Kawhi or Paul George coming to Lakers

"51% LA, 40% Cavs, 9% Sixers"

He was asked why? "I can't say"

Vegas odds are currently 4/13 for Lakers

13/4 for Cavs who are the second best option

Windy also said "the decision will come around the July 4th holiday."

"it's gonna be less about the roster and more about happiness."

NinjaScooter EDeadman94 bionic77 Darkwing-Buck henhowc Sandfox VCFL

source: http://m.espn.com/general/cast?id=10528553&src=desktop

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Smurf

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If LeBron is cool with the young players, I'd honestly be fine with LeBron and PG and keeping the rest of the core instead of getting Kawhi.
Keep the young core, get Kawhi next year.

You don't even need to trade an asset to get rid of Deng. Next season will be a lot cheaper to do it.

It would be a tough offseason tho, hearing about choking in the playoffs and how LeBron is done. But he's been there before.

You gotta resist LeBron pushing the Lakers to make a move for another start tho. Don't pull the trigger on Boogie/Kemba/Dame etc.
 

Doomsayer

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If LeBron is cool with the young players, I'd honestly be fine with LeBron and PG and keeping the rest of the core instead of getting Kawhi.

I agree with this as well.

What we need to figure out though is the C position. Are we going to re-sign Randle and let Brook walk? So we'd have Randle/Bryant at the C? That's a pretty rough thought. We are probably going to go into luxury tax hell, regardless.
 

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I agree with this as well.

What we need to figure out though is the C position. Are we going to re-sign Randle and let Brook walk? So we'd have Randle/Bryant at the C? That's a pretty rough thought. We are probably going to go into luxury tax hell, regardless.

can't have Randle and two max FA unless we dump Deng

if it's just Bron we keep Randle

or if it's just PG we keep Randle

need to dump Deng to have all 3
 

NinjaScooter

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I agree with this as well.

What we need to figure out though is the C position. Are we going to re-sign Randle and let Brook walk? So we'd have Randle/Bryant at the C? That's a pretty rough thought. We are probably going to go into luxury tax hell, regardless.

Randle has to be gone to fit two max slots. Brook can kick rocks. If LeBron signs I imagine they are going to take a long look at a flyer on Nerlins Noel, being that he's a Klutch/Rich Paul guy.
 

Sandfox

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I agree with this as well.

What we need to figure out though is the C position. Are we going to re-sign Randle and let Brook walk? So we'd have Randle/Bryant at the C? That's a pretty rough thought. We are probably going to go into luxury tax hell, regardless.
In the scenario we get PG and LeBron someone will be willing to play center on the cheap(though it's possible they still find a way to resign Randle). In any other scenario I think Randle will be our center.
 

TiamatSword

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If they use the stretch provision on Deng would that mean Randle can stay or does Deng have to be gone completely?
 

Doomsayer

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I thought that if we retain Randle since we have his bird rights we can go over the cap to sign him? Am I misunderstanding that?
 

jwhit28

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Lonzo and Lebron seems like a tough fit. Driving and creating is what Lonzo is best at but Lebron will probably still want that responsibility. Lonzo on the court just gives him one less person to kick it to off the drive. Maybe Lebron will adopt his inside-out style play he used in Miami and be the pick man for Lonzo or just post up.
 

NinjaScooter

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If they use the stretch provision on Deng would that mean Randle can stay or does Deng have to be gone completely?

Nah, I think they'd still have to renounce Randle, which makes him an UFA and the Lakers would no longer have his bird rights. Not sure why you'd want to keep Randle if you have PG and LeBron (hypothetically speaking). Julius cannot play center.
 

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I thought that if we retain Randle since we have his bird rights we can go over the cap to sign him? Am I misunderstanding that?

New CBA changed it for RFA

if he wants a higher salary we won't be able to match if we sign two max FA

now if the market low balls him and no one gives him a max we're good

but I think Dallas has been eyeing Randle for a few years now

Lonzo and Lebron seems like a tough fit. Driving and creating is what Lonzo is best at but Lebron will probably still want that responsibility. Lonzo on the court just gives him one less person to kick it to off the drive. Maybe Lebron will adopt his inside-out style play he used in Miami and be the pick man for Lonzo or just post up.

Lonzo mainly played off ball this year and in UCLA

He's the lowest usage point guard in the league

they will coexist beautifully

two high IQ transcendent passers
 

Smurf

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Randle is not worth it.

Let him go

be competitive in 19, get kawhi in 20

win the title

gg ez
 

Brinbe

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So Bron wants his kids to grow up/play there, and he wants to play/be near his fam. If you had a choice between living in CA or Ohio, I know what the majority of us would pick. Can't hate. George/Kawhi is happening too if he's going there.

Will be interesting to see how that roster looks come September. And where Zo ends up, because no way that LeBron wants to deal with Lavar's idiocy.

The East will finally be wide open and the West will be a bloodbath

He really did telegraph it all along when he bought that house in Brentwood
 

Sandfox

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So Bron wants his kids to grow up/play there, and he wants to play/be near his fam. If you had a choice between living in CA or Ohio, I know what the majority of us would pick. Can't hate. George/Kawhi is happening too if he's going there.

Will be interesting to see how that roster looks come September. And where Zo ends up, because no way that LeBron wants to deal with Lavar's idiocy.

The East will finally be wide open and the West will be a bloodbath

He really did telegraph it all along when he bought that house in Brentwood
Not really. The Celtics have Kyrie and Hayward coming back.
 

Servbot24

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I don't see what possible incentive there is to stay in Cleveland. Playing in that building with those scrubs for 82 more games just sounds incredibly depressing.
 

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I don't see what possible incentive there is to stay in Cleveland. Playing in that building with those scrubs for 82 more games just sounds incredibly depressing.

Why you guys snatching every player out of UCLA

what did Reggie Miller do to your franchise

You guys are gonna somehow end up with Lonzo too, later in his career

>:(
 

Tophat Jones

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Utah is the 2nd best team in the west with the addition of Grayson Allen =(.

I miss Grayson =(.

Utah, why did you have to pick him!

I wish I could bet on Grayson Allen being the most productive Duke player from this class.

He'll be the best Duke asset from this draft. You'll see why in 2 years.


Well Bagley is cursed because he went to the kings and you have to weigh in the duke injury curse too.
<3

Get ready for Ter Cruz pics for an entire season bros.
 

kingbility

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Vanderbilt is a lot of fun - he was my favorite Kentucky player to watch last season. Threw his body at absolutely every rebound; his offensive rebounding numbers were even better (in a limited sample size) than Faried's were at a midmajor. Even the ones he didn't grab he usually got a hand on. Has a good eye for a pass and loves to push the ball off defensive rebounds (with mixed results).

Him trying to do anything against a set defense in the halfcourt was an adventure that usually ended badly. Had absolutely no ability to finish (22/36 at the rim, 7/32 away from the rim). But he reads the game well and has unteachable motor + athleticism, think he has real upside to be a great switch 4/5 on defense whose offensive rebounding makes him neutral or positive on offense.
I think it's good pick. I love hustle players...heck I even loved Faried for the last few year, a bad defender that can't shoot, cool to know we'll have one that can actually defend. We really need some defenders. I just hope he's healthy too, I heard he had some injuries last season.
 

Doomsayer

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New CBA changed it for RFA
if he wants a higher salary we won't be able to match if we sign two max FA
now if the market low balls him and no one gives him a max we're good
but I think Dallas has been eyeing Randle for a few years now

Well, shit. I didn't know that.

I also know for a fact Cuban is going to offer a max or near max to Randle because he hates the Lakers.
 

Sandfox

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Dallas is probably going to after certain other players before offering Randle a contract. The Randle-Mavs stuff has never actually come from people with connections to the organization. I also don't see teams offering Randle the max.
 
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if he wants a higher salary we won't be able to match if we sign two max FA

That's only because he's likely to get the offer which starts the clock before LeBron and PG will make a decision.

They could technicaly sign LeBron and PG before they have to decide on Randle, but the chances of getting them to commit before having to decide on Randle is highly unlikely.
 

Sandfox

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I could definitely see Wall being dealt if the Wizards management want to build around Beal. Wizards have been the definition of run of the mill and its only a matter of time before one of them are dealt.
The thing is that I see the Wizards being one of those teams satisfied to just make the playoffs.

With the Blazers I think they have a higher opinion of their current roster than we do even with the sweep.
 

Sandfox

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That's only because he's likely to get the offer which starts the clock before LeBron and PG will make a decision.

They could technicaly sign LeBron and PG before they have to decide on Randle, but the chances of getting them to commit before having to decide on Randle is highly unlikely.
If you want to believe the rumors LeBron will decide well before that assuming Randle signs an offer sheet on the first day.
 

VeePs

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If the Lakers do trade Zo then what are the return options? Obviously Lillard but maybe Wall?

Wall is a Pass first PG, who's mediocre at 3s. I can't see Lakers wanting him over Zo. That's not to say wall isn't talented, he is. But if your trading Lonzo to build around Bron Wall isn't the best choice. Lonzo is also on a cheaper contract, doesn't need the ball to be productive (can play off ball) can create for others, solid work ethic, etc. Just no point the way I see it in trading for Wall.

If you asking hypothetically if they traded Lonzo for another PG who's the best choice, Dame's a good choice imo. He would have a similar role that Kyrie had, and Portland might bite because they realize they're stuck. He had a poor performance this year in the playoffs but besides that, he can shoot 3s really well, create for others, etc.

I still think if Kawhi is not available you keep Zo. He can learn from Bron and take the pressure off him. Zo just needs to work on aspects of his game and bring his 3 pt% to a average level.
 

VeePs

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LebronZO

+

Paul George

+ Kawhi

if not kawhi, then jimmy butler free agency next year

woW!


add in Dwight howard

Zo, PG13, Kawhi/Butler, Lebron, Howard!!

not even toon squad can stop this
 

Steve Winwood

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I enjoy the John Wall Wizards, but they should really be looking to trade Wall now. He has a 4/$170m extension kicking in in 2019. He turns 29 at the start of that season, has a bad injury history, including multiple knee issues, and has already lost a step from his absolute athletic peak. If they can get an asset back, I absolutely think they have to pull the trigger -- once that last reasonable year left on his current deal runs out, he'll likely be unmovable.
 

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LeBron's busy creating a super team and not giving the Cavs notice, and the only reason the Miami Heat super team worked out was because of Pat Riley's finesse which the Lakers lack. Creating super teams behind doors is a lot harder than what the media makes it out to be so I can honestly see LeBron staying in Cleveland where can he earn the most money and become the undisputed finals champion minus the rings and than enjoy a nice Hollywood career.
 

VeePs

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LeBron's busy creating a super team and not giving the Cavs notice, and the only reason the Miami Heat super team worked out was because of Pat Riley's finesse which the Lakers lack. Creating super teams behind doors is a lot harder than what the media makes it out to be so I can honestly see LeBron staying in Cleveland where can he earn the most money and become the undisputed finals champion minus the rings and than enjoy a nice Hollywood career.

I honestly don't think he's trying to create a super team. Yea, if Lakers got Kawhi and PG13 decides to join them great, but I really think he wants to spend time with his family, be involved in their life, and at the same time play basketball. If the chips fall his way, he's happy. If not, he'll still be happy. Miami was different, he was actively trying to put himself in the best position to get rings. This isn't that, at least imo.
 

McScroggz

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If LeBron and PG sign with the Lakers, I still try to get Kawhi but I don't sell the farm. Honestly if Lonzo's idiot father wasn't a distraction I would be happy with that team and the hope of signing Kawhi next offseason somehow, but LaVar bruh...woof. I hate to give up on him because if he can be a respectable shooter (45/35/75) I think he can be an awesome all round PG and maybe All-Star, but if I can trade him for Kawhi and not have to deal with the distractions and improve my chances to win this year I couldn't say no.

Kawhi is so damn good tho...
 
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